VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[Gicoo]

What is this epilogue?

No Cindy-Jeremy or Axel scene
No Cindy threesome
No Seymour-Lena scene
No Stan-Lena scene
No Danny-Lena scene
No Billy scenes
No Holly Jeremy scenes
No Holly Lena Ian scenes
No Ivy scenes
Why tf is Jack here, as JoJoPool said someone like Tyrone or Hugo would be the better choice.
Why is there an option to kick the dog?


Wtf

A bunch of your requests are nonsense, since some of these pairings have no build-up to justify them. Lena-Seymour was the last scene just before the epilogue. Hugo isn't a party dude and Tyrone would enrage the anti BBC brigande entirely, considering we already have Jeremy and Marcel in the epilogue.
Kicking dog was there to emphasize posh Lena who agrees with Seymour and to antagonize Emma and her kind.

 

[Blurpee69]

Thanks! What did you do for that?) Also, who have changed on your playthrough and how much?

Like I said in that original post, I'm not really sure what my flags are as I don't dive into the code like a lot of others in this thread. My Lena was simply nice to Emma at her every opportunity and Emma and Lena just went out on a shopping trip together.

 

[robrize2169]

hopefully, Lena becoming more friendly with Emma will lead to a Ian Lena Emma threesome. i had Lena flirting with Emma at every choice available and Lena is getting more and more into the idea of sharing her friends with Ian. including Holly and probably Ivy too provided EK gives us the opportunity. perhaps at Billy's weekend party. would be fun to have Ian getting all the pussy while these rich assholes sit there with blue balls.

 

[| Vee |]

...You are probably right, there is this in the code:

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WHAT IN THE FUKING FUCKFEST IS THIS NOW? I thought EK was cutting on content, chapter's and trying to wrap it up, focusing on keeping it realistic, semi-realistic(whatever that means in EK's language) and we know that only one from cameo character's who DESERVES to get sex scene is ELI

It's straight up bullshit at this point. I'm at loss of words EK.
How can you(Oh Dev)...Really fucking disappointed by this stunt!

 

[fatpussy123]

WHAT IN THE FUKING FUCKFEST IS THIS NOW? I thought EK was cutting on content, chapter's and trying to wrap it up, focusing on keeping it realistic, semi-realistic(whatever that means in EK's language) and we know that only one from cameo character's who DESERVES to get sex scene is ELI

It's straight up bullshit at this point. I'm at loss of words EK.
How can you(Oh Dev)...Really fucking disappointed by this stunt!

Its the same shit with Mark, which at the time I could forgive because it was a one off. Mark is inserted into the story for those who want a Mike type character, but don't want the moral problems of sleeping with a Mike, a taken man. Now Jack is introduced and can probably be fucked at the club. He is the muscular jock playboy archetype for those who don't want Lena going back to that scumbag Axel. I get that Eva clearly misplanned the male love interests (no options besides Ian that arent morally fucked) but it feels like Eva doesnt have faith in her own characters when she keeps bringing in old ones to have as cop outs for the routes with problems for Lena.

 

[Socrambus]

WHAT IN THE FUKING FUCKFEST IS THIS NOW? I thought EK was cutting on content, chapter's and trying to wrap it up, focusing on keeping it realistic, semi-realistic(whatever that means in EK's language) and we know that only one from cameo character's who DESERVES to get sex scene is ELI

It's straight up bullshit at this point. I'm at loss of words EK.
How can you(Oh Dev)...Really fucking disappointed by this stunt!

I found also this on the gallery code:

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And this on the cuck Ian part:

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Maybe it's just another recycled scene with another "skin" so it wouldn't involve that much extra work I guess. And probably it's a one time thing just to make slutty Lena more slutty and provide extra fan service for the OG crowd, so it wouldn't really affect the plot in any meaningful way. Just trying to see the glass half full, who knows.

I've just remembered that in addition to Eli, Lena can also get the instagram of a random guy (John?) to meet "for a coffee". So maybe the glass is more empty..

 

[Gicoo]

Lena is even teasing Ian to cuck him with Eli ^_^

 

[| Vee |]

Its the same shit with Mark, which at the time I could forgive because it was a one off. Mark is inserted into the story for those who want a Mike type character, but don't want the moral problems of sleeping with a Mike, a taken man. Now Jack is introduced and can probably be fucked at the club. He is the muscular jock playboy archetype for those who don't want Lena going back to that scumbag Axel. I get that Eva clearly misplanned the male love interests (no options besides Ian that arent morally fucked) but it feels like Eva doesnt have faith in her own characters when she keeps bringing in old ones to have as cop outs for the routes with problems for Lena.

Agreed but it's saddening!

I found also this on the gallery code:

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And this on the cuck Ian part:

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Maybe it's just another recycled scene with another "skin" so it wouldn't involve that much extra work I guess. And probably it's a one time thing just to make slutty Lena more slutty and provide extra fan service for the OG crowd, so it wouldn't really affect the plot in any meaningful way. Just trying to see the glass half full, who knows.

Apparently It's implied to be a BJ scene with Jack as 3 variables are taken into account route v11bbc/lena_jack>2/v11Axel(if Lena gives Axel a blowjob in WC) in cheating Lena route when Lena gives bj to Ian.

 

[| Vee |]

Lena is even teasing Ian to cuck him with Eli ^_^

Lena only tells/teases Ian about one of them(Jack/John/Eli).
If you have full points with three then Lena tells/teases about first John than Jack skipping ELI.
For Eli teasing you need only Eli full points.

 

[JoJoPool]

I found also this on the gallery code:

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And this on the cuck Ian part:

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Maybe it's just another recycled scene with another "skin" so it wouldn't involve that much extra work I guess. And probably it's a one time thing just to make slutty Lena more slutty and provide extra fan service for the OG crowd, so it wouldn't really affect the plot in any meaningful way. Just trying to see the glass half full, who knows.

I've just remembered that in addition to Eli, Lena can also get the instagram of a random guy (John?) to meet "for a coffee". So maybe the glass is more empty..

It may not affect the plot of ORS but it ruines the plot of GGGB since she now cemented Jack's fate and rendered his other endings a dream while high on Emma's drug...
The moment i heard Jack is in the epilogue i knew it was bad news, The way she integrated Jess in ORS was smart and well thought but with Jack she dropped the ball.
Besides all this we have enough GGGB characters already, If she keeps bringing more to ORS we may as well call it GGGB 2

 

[JohnDupont]

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[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Am I the only one who thinks writing quality is in steady decline? I feel like last 2 chapters was not on par with the rest, I also thought same for the GGGB but leap is bigger in this one.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Am I the only one who thinks writing quality is in steady decline? I feel like last 2 chapters was not on par with the rest, I also thought same for the GGGB but leap is bigger in this one.

EK went all in on making his patreons happy.
Expect tons of BBC and GGGB characters in the future.

 

[Gicoo]

Am I the only one who thinks writing quality is in steady decline? I feel like last 2 chapters was not on par with the rest, I also thought same for the GGGB but leap is bigger in this one.

I suspect it has to do with the writing structure this time. Lena mets a large quantity of characters one after another and no one is given enough time due to her work. Its executed rapidly and rough. In previous chapters, Ian/Lena interacted with entire groups and the conversation changed smoother and more organicaly.

 

[LoneWaker59]

Am I the only one who thinks writing quality is in steady decline? I feel like last 2 chapters was not on par with the rest, I also thought same for the GGGB but leap is bigger in this one.

This is what happens when the dev stops following his original story to follow what the fans (patreons) want.
Don't believe me? Robert/Stan had a rework due to fans complaining, the most "common" fetish in the game is BBC/Cuck because the fans want it, Marcel included in the story just because he had the most votes in a poll, characters from GGGB appearing out of the blue as if ORS was a direct continuation of that game, not to mention that making these characters appear shows that some choices from that game are canon...

Perhaps this is the result of a dev who has already lost his way in the story, or a dev who has so many variables in the story that it's hard to put it all together, because let's be honest, EvaKiss' games are the ones that give you the most freedom of choice! it's not like 90% of games here where the choices are basically "do you want to see the sex scene yes or no?".

 

[Turret]

This is what happens when the dev stops following his original story to follow what the fans (patreons) want.
Don't believe me? Robert/Stan had a rework due to fans complaining, the most "common" fetish in the game is BBC/Cuck because the fans want it, Marcel included in the story just because he had the most votes in a poll,(...)

Very much this!
I am a hobby writer so I know quite a bit about creating stories. While you should listen to what your fans have to say, you also have to stay true to your vision of the story you want to tell! It is one thing to include fan ideas you feel will fit the story quite well. But the moment you include stuff you are not convinced off, just because the fans are making a ruckus, you have lost! It won´t be your story anymore, it will loose cohesion and focus, because you put something in you would not have done so otherwise.

And in ORS we can see this quite well, you already gave some examples. I could add things like "Cindy here and there", one of the most uninteresting characters in the whole game getting so much screentime, just because of some loud fans. And don´t get me started on the "cucking Ian everywhere" thing!
I nearly rage-quitted a playthrough when after the Ian-Alison-Jeremy threesome, where Ian performed really well, you just get a neutral and a cuck option when Ian and Alison talk about the threesome later. Glaringly absent is a positive option (even if several scenes later you and Alison can decide to have a threesome again, which at least mitigates it a bit), which is sub-optimal at best, but is so because EK was bowing to the loudmouths.

 

[jimul18]

This game has jumped the sharknado....I don't even know what that means. But seriously that epilogue was muddled, too many characters/cameos. I get that you want to please the patron first and foremost but not at the expense of the game. If this had been stretched out it would not spark this kind of vitriol, especially in this sub which has been eager to forgive and forget.

Even if she wanted I don't see EK being able to wrap up ORS in the next year in a satisfactory way. I hope this game gets a satisfying conclusion I was pretty happy with the end of GGGB, even though there was potential left out on the table. But here I am not so sure if ORS tries to cater both to a more down to earth "romantic" narrative and fetish driven scenes.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Is this real?

I'd say so. Injections are possible, but quite painful and usually end up pretty lopsided, where this is more of a straight shaft.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

It seems to be the case that the cuck variable and the dom variable is assigned if the no sex route is active. So the only time the dom variable is isolated is when Ian is fucking Lena and she facesits him, in which case what's the point? When Lena tried to tease Ian in the epilogue he resists even though she has the dom variable. Either this gets fixed in chapter 12 or it's a major oversight. Imo the cuck route and the no sex dom route should be separate, but we know how Eva kiss likes to conflate femdom with cuckoldry.

Sad. I hate the femdom crap. (The whole "wanted to be cruel" + auto sex denial + "liked that he was obedient", etc, act that Lena puts on). Plus, why be with someone you care so little for, or vice versa? I'm sure there are others who just want the femdom/auto-sex-denial too, with no other fetishes involved. Double edged sword. But what are you gonna do? So many scenes, so little time.

 

[kevin19997]

Still No Android? Wtf