VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[dontcarewhateverno]

Could you tell me what options are you talking about specifically? I can't think of any lust-based choice i'd even consider to be on a grander scale, much less multiple such choices.

The biggest ones are definitely the Chapter 9 "experimental relationship" convo & the chapter 10 Alison threesome Ian is blocked off from accepting in an earlier chapter (even after beating poor Ian Jr senseless in previous chapters to pics of her with J, plus previously flirting & going home with her). But even in this chapter, dating Lena, my Ian is blocked off from the lust option of having sex with her when she gets to the summer house. There were other options blocked as well in the chapter, which I'd have to check, involving texts/actions with other girls for an Ian that's just found out his girlfriend is very likely cheating on him. It's hard to list all, since after experiencing some major blockers in previous chapters that would require nearly another full playthrough, I've just been jumping into the code each update and adjusting the lust requirements for all after hitting another blocker.

Grand scale = Grand masturbation scale.

Let's be honest. Part of our reasons for playing this game.

 

[Skylark21]

Well, the stat is used for quite a few things. In this particular example, Ian's options how to react to news about Lena hinge on how well he gets along with Jeremy. If their relationship is low then they can have a fight over it, and for Ian to be grateful about the news their relationship needs to be high.

Yeah, I see how relationship stat is used in this context but Jeremy with low relationship score with Ian certainly has no need to inform him in fact he had no problem hiding info about Gillian.
I understand Eva K is just trying limit the branches with this, guess I'm just sad because it's at expense of my Ian clueless route.

 

[seaoflove]

Imo, it is bad for a sex game highly focused on the choose-your-own element, since the sex is a huge part of the point. It'll be less noticeable depending on what your path preferences are, which is likely why it doesn't bother you (to ffive specifically). But the point of design in the end is to increase enjoyment. I can absolutely see Charisma, Charm, Athletics serve their purpose for the other elements. But in the end, I see those things as there to add necessary immersion in what is, after all, a sex AVN where you want to get the character & personality you've formed into certain sexual situations. When those sexual situations are present already, on your specific path, and only grayed out because you don't imagine your character would say "I'd like to stick my hole-in-one, yuk yuk" while playing golf, I just find that silly and poorly thought out, really. Not serving much purpose.

These are more my thoughts on design in general & what the end goal is. An AVN, especially in respect to the "A", is quite different than a platformer.

Other part is, I don't believe it reflects real life very well at all either.

Autonomy is important when it comes to both sex, and gaming and doubly so when it comes to sex in adult games.

If you just want the sex stuff, and not to decide anything then it makes a lot more sense to just watch a porno.

Having grayed out or hidden choices is also important sometimes, becuase it wouldn't make sense to have certain choices otherwise.

A good example of this is when Ivy asks Lena "Are you falling for Ian?"

If Ian answered everything like an idiot, and Lena put no effort in either, then why on earth would the choice for "I am falling in love" be there?

 

[ffive]

But even in this chapter, dating Lena, my Ian is blocked off from the lust option of having sex with her when she gets to the summer house.

Having this option blocked doesn't block you from actually having sex with Lena though, unless in very speficic setup where your Ian is just viewing Lena as a fucktoy. But then it can be argued such character would have his Lust high enough to take the second option.

                menu:
                    "{image=icon_love.webp}I missed you" if ian_lena_love:
//...
                        "Wanting to believe in Lena's words, I pushed away my worries for the moment in order to give Lena a warm welcome."

                    "{image=icon_lust.webp}I still have energy left" if ian_lust > 6:
//...
                       "I tried pushing away my worries for the moment in order to give Lena a warm welcome."

                    "Let's join the others":

Both top options have the same effect.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Autonomy is important when it comes to both sex, and gaming and doubly so when it comes to sex in adult games.

If you just want the sex stuff, and not to decide anything then it makes a lot more sense to just watch a porno.

Having grayed out or hidden choices is also important sometimes, becuase it wouldn't make sense to have certain choices otherwise.

A good example of this is when Ivy asks Lena "Are you falling for Ian?"

If Ian answered everything like an idiot, and Lena put no effort in either, then why on earth would the choice for "I am falling in love" be there?

Autonomy is important and I never argued to the contrary. I believe so as well and think you're either mischaracterizing what I said or misunderstanding me. I simply think that the lust requirement is unnecessarily high for certain situations, partially to do with how those lust points are awarded. Mileage may vary and it really depends on path and what you're going for.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Having this option blocked doesn't block you from actually having sex with Lena though, unless in very speficic setup where your Ian is just viewing Lena as a fucktoy. But then it can be argued such character would have his Lust high enough to take the second option.

                menu:
                    "{image=icon_love.webp}I missed you" if ian_lena_love:
//...
                        "Wanting to believe in Lena's words, I pushed away my worries for the moment in order to give Lena a warm welcome."

                    "{image=icon_lust.webp}I still have energy left" if ian_lust > 6:
//...
                       "I tried pushing away my worries for the moment in order to give Lena a warm welcome."

                    "Let's join the others":

Both top options have the same effect.

Thanks. Wasn't sure if that one had any difference. It's really not one of the major blockers though. Lena experimental relationship and Alison threesome are definitely the two biggest.

 

[ffive]

Yeah, I see how relationship stat is used in this context but Jeremy with low relationship score with Ian certainly has no need to inform him in fact he had no problem hiding info about Gillian.

I'd argue this isn't necessarily true -- Jeremy who isn't on good terms with Ian can have two potential reasons to inform him. One, in hope this will help to patch their relationship. Or two, out of simple spite.

 

[Gicoo]

Hmm my Lena has 7 lust (hit 8 this update) even though she's just with Ian and didn't as much as flirt with any guy other than Axel. She also doesn't run full Stalkfap, just the modest version. If she was doing full Stalkfap she'd probably be around 9 by now.

Plus, can't seriously consider making a video for a Stan on intrawebs to be a grand scale event, sorry.

The Tom request I was refering to happens in chapter 8. At that point, 7 Lust is difficult to get for a nonslut Lena.

 

[Yougiblack]

This may piss some people off, but is there a way to use cheat engine, or tackle some engine functions to play with the game's stats ? specially the Will points ?

 

[ffive]

Thanks. Wasn't sure if that one had any difference. It's really not one of the major blockers though. Lena experimental relationship and Alison threesome are definitely the two biggest.

Note, the "experimenting together" has multiple ways to pass, even if Ian doesn't have high enough lust:

                            "{image=icon_lust.webp}We can experiment together" if ian_alison_dating or ian_cherry_dating or v7_cindy_kiss or ian_minerva_sex or ian_emma_sex or ian_lust > 4:

And not only that, it's not even needed: you can get the same outcome (arranging a threesome and flipping the "experimenting" variable) later in the game. So, it's not something that actually affects your experience negatively without any alternatives to fall back on.

            if lena_lust > 5 or ian_lena_open:
                menu:
                    "{image=icon_lust.webp}We could give it a try":
                        label v11lena3someproposal:
                            $ ian_lena_3some = True
                        l "Actually... I was thinking we could give a try."
                        i "What, really?"
                        if ian_lena_couple:
                            if ian_lena_open: 
                                l "I mean... We said we'd like to experiment together, right?"
                                i "That's true, we said something like that..."
                            else:
                                $ ian_lena_open = True
//...
            else:
                menu:
                    "{image=icon_will.webp}We could give it a try" if lena_will > 0:
                        jump v11lena3someproposal

You need Lena to have 6 Lust in Ch.11 which is... fairly easy to have, at this point of the game. Or spend a willpoint.

 

[ffive]

This may piss some people off, but is there a way to use cheat engine, or tackle some engine functions to play with the game's stats ? specially the Will points ?

The game has built-in cheat mode. You can enable it when you start a new playthrough.

 

[varpep]

I really like the customization options for Lena. I wish we had some for Ian. Maybe hair cuts, tattoos and maybe ear rings.

 

[Xupuzulla]

imaging a route where mike is in a relationship with gillian

-and ian gets beaten by mike

-lena can gets mike to break up with gillian

-gillian is growling back to ian and says how much she miss him

-ian thinks he can fix gillian falls all in love again and gillian act all sweet and innocent

-gillian instantly cheats on the next best opportunity (girls night out) she has

That would be a great idea,EK should make Gillian the slutty villain we all want her to be.

 

[DeemLeem12]

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So Emma is adopted and doesn't know her parents and why they broke up.

Guess we can reignite Seymour/Lenas mother being the parent theories. Or Lenas biological father or Ians parents.

I'm with Wade here, reactionwise.

Seymour is everyone's father? All of ORS cast are siblings because Seymour is one motherfucker?

 

[ffive]

imaging a route where mike is in a relationship with gillian

-and ian gets beaten by mike

-lena can gets mike to break up with gillian

-gillian is growling back to ian and says how much she miss him

-ian thinks he can fix gillian falls all in love again and gillian act all sweet and innocent

-gillian instantly cheats on the next best opportunity (girls night out) she has

The fun part of this scenario (other than Gillian cheating again) is that it doesn't even require Lena to get involved: Ian is already aware from his talk with Jeremy that Mike has fucked Ivy. So he can tell Mike's gf himself, that her boyfriend is cheating on her, if he meets her at the tournament.

 

[Blurpee69]

I think there is a chance for 1 or two shifts to ian's pov similar to lena in this part of the chapter. Lena's part would cover the last day of the beach, then they are back in the city. I could see a smlll pov of maybe ian with cindy, allsion, cherry, or maybe even if we get really spicy another run in with gillian. So we will get less of of ian's pov but I think there is a chance for one or two scenes with ian in the next update or epilogue, like evakiss shifted to lena in this one, but those are just my thoughts and I could be wrong.

I think it has to be required at this point, especially if Lena dips early to be with Seymour. But switching to Lena's PoV briefly was great for the Ian Cuck and Lena / Axel or Jack routes. The fact that we got some additional insight into Lena's family life was just a bonus for me personally.

And now for something completely different, in the game's master script:

default ian_emma_love = 0                 # Ian corresponds Emma's feelings (2= make love, accept feelings / 1= talk feelings / 0.5= call her out)

Emma's love route confirmed

Is there an official route for bimbo / whore Emma? Chad Ian can really degrade her this update too, worse than he treats bimbo Allison. Certainly be interesting in seeing how that plays out in the future.

 

[ffive]

Is there an official route for bimbo / whore Emma? Chad Ian can really degrade her this update too, worse than he treats bimbo Allison. Certainly be interesting in seeing how that plays out in the future.

There's a variable (similar to other girls) which tracks Ian's potential dominant attitude towards them:

default ian_emma_dom = False              # Ian becomes dominant towards Emma in their sexual relationship (face fuck scene)

There's matching variables for Lena, Alison and Cherry.

 

[SearingFive]

Thats actually a good idea,make him sob and shake in anger too,the whole cuckery experience.
Im not into that stuff through,i dont know just saying

You are making mommysboiii cream his pants with those situations.

 

[Blurpee69]

default ian_emma_dom = False              # Ian becomes dominant towards Emma in their sexual relationship (face fuck scene)

There's matching variables for Lena, Alison and Cherry.

This game needs more double dom scenes like Lena and Ian on Ian's couch with them both taking turns taking the lead. But I suspect that will be reserved for only Lena due to co MC status, although Ivy might make an attempt at it.

 

[SearingFive]

This game needs more double dom scenes like Lena and Ian on Ian's couch with them both taking turns taking the lead. But I suspect that will be reserved for only Lena due to co MC status, although Ivy might make an attempt at it.

Basically being switchers. I am all for it, but Lena's dom is stitched with cuckoldry currently. Ivy is dominant, she rode Lena's face and tried so hard to get the top position with Ian when sparring, she did show some signs of a sub when sexting Ian.