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BlandChili

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u can t really pursue jess.Good jess she see just like a friend,with bad jess if u take advantage of her your relation drop to 0
You can still bang bad Jess if you want. Hungover wasn't asking for relationships, just what content is available to Ian while doing the Alison route.
 

jollyjoker27

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Depends on how well Axel manages to wrap his new girl around his finger, and Cindy doing as told. I don't think Axel cares particularly about Ian though, it's not like he makes Lena send videos of their performance to Ian e.g.
Sure, interesting idea that could work. But then again, as you said, does Axel have enough of an agenda with/hate for Ian to care? Or maybe Ian goes full spec ops, hires a chopper, scuba drop and then watch from the window? :ROFLMAO:
 
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Saerwen

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I can't see either Ian or Axel as daddy, when they're all pretty much the same age. Totally breaks my suspension of disbelief and i'd just snort mid-phrase. (and hurt their sensitive male egos) ;/
Sure, Daddy Dom is usually noticed in a younger woman-older man relationship or DDLG(cringe). Daddy doesn't mean that he has to be a silver fox. Chad fits in this category too.
 
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Sure, interesting idea that could work. But then again, as you said, does Axel have enough of an agenda with/hate for Ian to care? Or maybe Ian goes full spec ops, hires a chopper, scuba drop and then watch from the window? :ROFLMAO:
There's a variable for Ian and Axel relationship and another one for Axel knowing about Ian and Lena that have been pretty much unused so far. Maybe one or both could be used to explain Axel's motivation to send Ian some videos.
 

Saerwen

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Daddy is used for male doms most of the time. Just like Master or Sir, depends on the preference. It has nothing to do with age. It's just a relationship dynamic between the partners.
This. I like to differentiate Daddy Dom in a more caring soft core dom-sub relationship, using Sir in a more strict type of dom-sub relationship and Master in hardcore SM relationship.
 

BlandChili

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There's a variable for Ian and Axel relationship and another one for Axel knowing about Ian and Lena that have been pretty much unused so far. Maybe one or both could be used to explain Axel's motivation to send Ian some videos.
Isn't Axel knowing about Ian and Lena being a thing, when they are, what triggers Axel's creepy smirk at Wade's birthday, if Ian takes off after Wade, in which case Axel chases off after Cindy looking like that? I recall that being memed back in the day.
 
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SearingFive

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There's a variable for Ian and Axel relationship and another one for Axel knowing about Ian and Lena that have been pretty much unused so far. Maybe one or both could be used to explain Axel's motivation to send Ian some videos.
The RP between Axel/Ian feels pretty moot. Axel knows about Ian/Lena dating is the only variable that will matter in the cheating path. Didn't EK rework Axel and Ian's dialogues? I am pretty sure they were pretty friendly before.
 

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The RP between Axel/Ian feels pretty moot. Axel knows about Ian/Lena dating is the only variable that will matter in the cheating path. Didn't EK rework Axel and Ian's dialogues? I am pretty sure they were pretty friendly before.
Yeah now they're enemies regardless of relationship points. Having them being friends could have been an interesting dynamic. Their confrontation at Ivy's birthday party could have been more interesting if they were friends. Would Ian have been able to cool things off on friendlier terms without almost getting into a fight?
 

yuvce

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Yeah now they're enemies regardless of relationship points. Having them being friends could have been an interesting dynamic. Their confrontation at Ivy's birthday party could have been more interesting if they were friends. Would Ian have been able to cool things off on friendlier terms without almost getting into a fight?
I prefer the current approach rather than them being friends tbh. They're not meant to be friends. Whichever approach the player chooses to take in relation to Ian and Lena's dynamic, Axel isn't meant to be redeemable and the player shouldn't force him to be because his very character was designed to be an abusive dickhead. And it makes the least sense if Ian and Lena are a couple because "why would you wanna be friends with your girlfriend's abuser?"
 

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I prefer the current approach rather than them being friends tbh. They're not meant to be friends. Whichever approach the player chooses to take in relation to Ian and Lena's dynamic, Axel isn't meant to be redeemable and the player shouldn't force him to be because his very character was designed to be an abusive dickhead. And it makes the least sense if Ian and Lena are a couple because "why would you wanna be friends with your girlfriend's abuser?"
Yes it's like Ian and Jeremy are always friends even with bad RP
 

GokutheG

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I prefer the current approach rather than them being friends tbh. They're not meant to be friends. Whichever approach the player chooses to take in relation to Ian and Lena's dynamic, Axel isn't meant to be redeemable and the player shouldn't force him to be because his very character was designed to be an abusive dickhead. And it makes the least sense if Ian and Lena are a couple because "why would you wanna be friends with your girlfriend's abuser?"
Of course they'd be enemies if Lena is with Ian. I'm mostly talking about a scenario where Lena and Ian are only friends. As it stands the story feels way too focused on assuming that they get together at some point and I'm just looking for something to break that.

Axel is an abusive pos as shown with Robert. I don't think Eva ever intended to show that he's physically abusive towards Lena(although that's my interpretation). Besides cheating(that Ian and Lena can both do so it diminished the effect) what irredeemable actions has Axel committed as a character? I've avoided his route but it seems that Eva has him going down a route of redemption already. I don't think any character(besides a certain recent cameo) is totally irredeemable especially looking at how Seymour's route seems to be progressing.

I just think the friendship route would be interesting and make the game not feel so forced on the Lena/Ian pairing. This could have opened interesting scenarios involving Lena, Cindy and Cherry. I'm here for the drama and the two being friends seems like such a missed opportunity.
 
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Daddy is used for male doms most of the time. Just like Master or Sir, depends on the preference. It has nothing to do with age. It's just a relationship dynamic between the partners.
Yeah, i know, it's just personal thing. If they're not a decade older at the least, the best they can hope for is maybe oniichan. :sneaky:

(not really because that's cringe overload)
 
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