VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[Radnos Salazar]

You don't engage with a 3some girl outside of the setting. It's an unspoken rule. If you engage, then it's straight-up cheating. 3some happens if both partners agree to it; if one is missing, it's not consensual to the other.

i dont wanna quote lena does the same thing again....
And it doesnt have to be behind Lena's back either, maybe Lena knows Ian is fucking them just like Ian is getting to know, when Lena is mentioning that in the chats

 

[ffive]

Cindy path is full of doubts and toxic bullshit,Alison path is full of love and bright future,i know who the better girl and is not the blonde bimbo thats for sure!

 

[Radnos Salazar]

You don't engage with a 3some girl outside of the setting. It's an unspoken rule. If you engage, then it's straight-up cheating. 3some happens if both partners agree to it; if one is missing, it's not consensual to the other.

i dont wanna quote lena does the same thing again....
And it doesnt have to be behind Lena's back either, maybe Lena knows Ian is fucking them just like Ian is getting to know, when Lena is mentioning that in the chats

Here for example.....just like Lena is letting him know, same way Ian can let her know. After the threesomes to get the SOLO scenes, what is wrong with this?

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[SearingFive]

Here for example.....just like Lena is letting him know, same way Ian can let her know. After the threesomes to get the SOLO scenes, what is wrong with this?

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That's what I said one post earlier. For some reason, lesbianism is not seen as cheating by EK. It's cheating.

 

[ffive]

Here for example.....just like Lena is letting him know, same way Ian can let her know. After the threesomes to get the SOLO scenes, what is wrong with this?

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This comes up in certain conditions:

        if (v10_ivy_sex and ian_lena_open != "ian" and ian_lena_open != "lena" and lena_cheating != 2 and holly_trinity < 2 and ian_cuck < 2 and lena_seymour_sex == False) or (v11_shower_sex and ian_lena_open != "ian" and ian_lena_open != "lena" and lena_cheating != 2 and holly_trinity < 2 and ian_cuck < 2 and lena_seymour_sex == False):

Basically this is on "pure couple" path, where Lena doesn't want to cheat on Ian and he isn't a cuck. Technically, Lena and Ian on this path agreed to only have threesomes together, not for either of them to sleep with other people all on one's own. Hence she's confirming with Ian if he'd be okay with such exception to their arrangement.

 

[Saerwen]

That's what I said one post earlier. For some reason, lesbianism is not seen as cheating by EK. It's cheating.

Yeah, imagine my guy wishing to "fool" around with other dudes. Hell no!

 

[DDDIsReal]

Lesbianism is not cheating, according to EK; hence, Lena gets out scot-free. Can't say that for Ian cuz he's not a lesbian.

According to most males*

 

[Jplays512]

Here for example.....just like Lena is letting him know, same way Ian can let her know. After the threesomes to get the SOLO scenes, what is wrong with this?

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this is the correct way to do a threesome where one of the partners scouts. You get permission first so it isn’t cheating. If you sleep with the person and then bring up doing it for a threesome it is just cheating.

Now if you have an agreement to have one of the partners scout and you give them free range it is not a problem but that is usually quite rare. Usually you have both partners approach the person and invite them so it is less grey area.

 

[Radnos Salazar]

This comes up in certain conditions:

        if (v10_ivy_sex and ian_lena_open != "ian" and ian_lena_open != "lena" and lena_cheating != 2 and holly_trinity < 2 and ian_cuck < 2 and lena_seymour_sex == False) or (v11_shower_sex and ian_lena_open != "ian" and ian_lena_open != "lena" and lena_cheating != 2 and holly_trinity < 2 and ian_cuck < 2 and lena_seymour_sex == False):

Basically this is on "pure couple" path, where Lena doesn't want to cheat on Ian and he isn't a cuck. Technically, Lena and Ian on this path agreed to only have threesomes together, not for either of them to sleep with other people all on one's own. Hence she's confirming with Ian if he'd be okay with such exception to their arrangement.

Okay.....then same can also be done from Ian POV no? Lets say Ivy and Ian are getting closer to fuck, Ian texts Lena the same things before he fucks her, since that would be an exception to the agreement as well. And lena should feel comfortable with it since,
1] She also fucked her solo
2] Both her and Ian fucked her in a 3some.

Same applies to other girls from 3somes. Thats what im trying to say.
But EK botched that with the first Ian & Louise solo scene, i dont want to see that repeating with the upcoming threesomes with other girls like Ivy & Emma

 

[MF_DOOM]

So, is there actually anything new in the beta version or is it just bug fixes and technical stuff?

 

[CreativeCritic2]

Lesbianism is not cheating, according to EK

It's one of two things...

a) It's not cheating because bisexual sex doesn't count.
b) It's not cheating because it isn't real sex if it doesn't involve a cock going into a pussy or ass.

Neither is correct but both are amazingly prevalent notions. I know a lesbian woman who is *constantly* at it but if she goes to a doctor to talk about her reproductive health, her doctor puts her down as a virgin because she's never fucked a guy.

Eva is a thoughtful writer with a real eye for the subtleties of human sexuality but she also has some quite regressive ideas that surface from time to time.

 

[fatpussy123]

Cheating is done when you sleep with someone your partner doesn't want you to. For most people that means anyone that's not your partner. In open relationships it's not cheating to sleep around, but would be cheating if your partner said not to sleep with someone specific and you still did. For certain couples, both fictional and in real life, it's not cheating if the woman sleeps with other women. From both Ian and Lena's perspective, it's not a big deal for Lena to sleep with Louise. That doesn't give Ian the right to sleep with Louise, threesome or not, the code of ethics dictates no sleeping with someone your girlfriend doesn't want you sleeping with, in Lena's case and most 99% of other women, that means all women. If Ian doesn't like these rules, he shouldn't be in a romantic relationship.

And if we want to say Ian should be given the opportunity to be upset at Lena for sleeping with Louise, I would agree, but the game does not have infinite choices. And certain things need to be hard coded into Ian. The fact that he is into FFM threesomes is also hard coded. Sucks, but we can't decide his stance on lesbian sex during hetero romance.

 

[Blurpee69]

Lesbianism is not cheating, according to EK; hence, Lena gets out scot-free. Can't say that for Ian cuz he's not a lesbian.

Simple solution. Go full brokeback with Wade or Jeremy. Not cheating cuz it's gay.

 

[MF_DOOM]

Simple solution. Go full brokeback with Wade or Jeremy. Not cheating cuz it's gay.

There is nothing gay about a friendly Brojob between bros.

 

[Saerwen]

b) It's not cheating because it isn't real sex if it doesn't involve a cock going into a pussy or ass.

I know a lesbian woman who is *constantly* at it but if she goes to a doctor to talk about her reproductive health, her doctor puts her down as a virgin because she's never fucked a guy.

It's the old mentality of a girl becomes a woman when she's consummating her marriage on a wedding night.

For certain couples, both fictional and in real life, it's not cheating if the woman sleeps with other women. From both Ian and Lena's perspective, it's not a big deal for Lena to sleep with Louise. That doesn't give Ian the right to sleep with Louise, threesome or not, the code of ethics dictates no sleeping with someone your girlfriend doesn't want you sleeping with, in Lena's case and most 99% of other women, that means all women.

That's because those couples(guy and a girl)don't see women as threat if a woman is bisexual. You are right though, for 99% other women are threat when they are in a heterosexual relationship, just like for guys other men are threat in heterosexual relationship.

 

[Radnos Salazar]

Cheating is done when you sleep with someone your partner doesn't want you to. For most people that means anyone that's not your partner. In open relationships it's not cheating to sleep around, but would be cheating if your partner said not to sleep with someone specific and you still did. For certain couples, both fictional and in real life, it's not cheating if the woman sleeps with other women. From both Ian and Lena's perspective, it's not a big deal for Lena to sleep with Louise. That doesn't give Ian the right to sleep with Louise, threesome or not, the code of ethics dictates no sleeping with someone your girlfriend doesn't want you sleeping with, in Lena's case and most 99% of other women, that means all women. If Ian doesn't like these rules, he shouldn't be in a romantic relationship.

And if we want to say Ian should be given the opportunity to be upset at Lena for sleeping with Louise, I would agree, but the game does not have infinite choices. And certain things need to be hard coded into Ian. The fact that he is into FFM threesomes is also hard coded. Sucks, but we can't decide his stance on lesbian sex during hetero romance.

When did Lena specifically say Ian should not sleep with louise solo? That's the point. It is not even mentioned, its presumed. Just like Lena asking for Ian's permission to fuck Ivy, the same thing can also happen in case of Ian. That's the point which i was discussing. You can read it a few posts above.

 

[ffive]

PilotLara seems there's couple minor bugs left in the beta:

            elif v13_louise_date:
                "And to make things sweeter, I had my date with Louise later today..."
                if v13_louise_date:
                    "And, if everything went according to plan, I would be meeting Minerva tonight too. The day looked really promising..."
//...
            elif v13_louise_date:
                "I tried not to beat myself over it more than necessary. My focus was on the date I had with Louise later today..."
                if v13_louise_date:
                    "And, if everything went according to plan, I would be meeting Minerva tonight too. The day looked promising..."

The second check in those two should be for v13_minerva_date instead of louise again.

 

[ffive]

When did Lena specifically say Ian should not sleep with louise solo? That's the point. It is not even mentioned, its presumed.

When they made the arrangement that their "experimenting" in the relationship would be together. All way back in CH.8. And then later when they agreed to have a threesome with Louise. Not that Ian would be free to fuck her on his own.

It's not presumed, it's explicitly stated and Ian recognizes it, hence all his internal monologues on how problematic it is for him to sleep with Louise solo.

I get that you want carte blanche to fuck Louise alone, but this simply doesn't match how the story has arranged Lena/Ian pairing. At least when they are not in open relationship which can be established in Ch.12.

 

[IlikebeingaDIK]

Cheating is processed differently between men and women tbh.

A girl isn't a threat cuz it often doesn't have performance implications (or lack thereof) to the guy being cheated on.

If a girl cheats on a dude with another dude, questions like size, performance and whatnot gonna rise up for the guy being cheated. Most dudes won't think about whether a girl can fuck their girl better.

Similarly a girl will compare beauty, age and whatnot if they got cheated on with another girl. Meanwhile if it's a dude... Well, it's mostly humiliating more than anything else I assume.


I don't think the psyche of cheating is badly done in ORS. But tbh, the only way to understand that properly is if Ian bangs another dude which, for my mental health, hopefully won't happen.

 

[Xupuzulla]

The only thing i know is that Lena is having lesbians parties with the whole female cast but gets mad if Ian fucks the that grounded geek Holly,fuck off