You serious? Ivy is The Corruptor. She (as is always the case with such characters) has significantly more experience than either of them, probably more than all of them combined. She takes control of Lena's and Holly's pleasure from the get go, something that comes only with experience. She teaches both of them pleasures of the flesh and how to better achieve them, even states that inexperienced mouth can't make her cum. Again, that's something only very experienced person could do. The only difference is that Ivy values herself and thus is always in control: she wouldn't meet with someone she deems not cool enough, if it isn't for corruption purposes, she wouldn't perfom certain acts without being generously compensated and so on.
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Of course, that take completely omits that "Holly becomes more outgoing, sexier and confident" in this particular scenario actually means/includes "Holly starts hooking up with a bunch of dudes she barely knows". Which makes the escalation to gloryhole far less of a poor development.
Also, i have to wonder what exactly would be "good corruption development" for those balking at the gloryhole. MMF threesomes? Doing porn? After all, Holly is already fucking left, right, and center, so where do you go from there?
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Ivy not being a slut is a misconception, due to the game not giving her screen time and Lena always being able to undermine her, which gives the wrong impression that Lena is wilder and has more sex than Ivy.
She made a move on a taken boy and was willing to babyplay for him as a teen. She fucked Mark, hence she recommended him to Holly (she only recommends man she personally approved of). She made moves on Mike who doesn't respond to girls before Lena, and succeds later on. She fooled around with Lena in the past. She wanted to fuck Jack, though he can only go for Lena. See the pattern? EvaKiss really wants to point out how Lena is so much better than Ivy. She has wilder fetishes compared to Lena and Holly, indicating she experienced more.
With Jeremy, its not so much that he doesn't reach her standards (how is he significantly worse than a nothing burger like Mark), she sucks his dick in front of his alleged girlfriend quite fast. She hesitates fucking him because he was with Louise, which opens up drama. Also a gameplay story segregation how the player can decide if she fucks him or not. It doesn't hold up how Ian and Jeremy can't fuck her this late in the game, but can fuck several other girls months earlier.
Ultimatively, EvaKiss dropped the ball on Ivy and wanted her to be that ultimate super slut (corrupt mentor to Lena), but also be constantly second fiddle to Lena (rival to Lena), who is able to surpass her. Just how Jeremy is the inspiration for a chad Ian to go after as many girls as possible, but Jeremy himself can always be undermined by Ian and isn't allow to win one over him (unless Ian choses to be a whimp).
It just doesn't make sense how Ian and Jeremy gush about Ivy in like chapter 2, but they can end up with Lena very fast and considering how debauched and desirable Lena can be, is it really an accomplishment if they fuck Ivy in chapter 14 onwards?
She made a move on a taken boy and was willing to babyplay for him as a teen. She fucked Mark, hence she recommended him to Holly (she only recommends man she personally approved of). She made moves on Mike who doesn't respond to girls before Lena, and succeds later on. She fooled around with Lena in the past. She wanted to fuck Jack, though he can only go for Lena. See the pattern? EvaKiss really wants to point out how Lena is so much better than Ivy. She has wilder fetishes compared to Lena and Holly, indicating she experienced more.
With Jeremy, its not so much that he doesn't reach her standards (how is he significantly worse than a nothing burger like Mark), she sucks his dick in front of his alleged girlfriend quite fast. She hesitates fucking him because he was with Louise, which opens up drama. Also a gameplay story segregation how the player can decide if she fucks him or not. It doesn't hold up how Ian and Jeremy can't fuck her this late in the game, but can fuck several other girls months earlier.
Ultimatively, EvaKiss dropped the ball on Ivy and wanted her to be that ultimate super slut (corrupt mentor to Lena), but also be constantly second fiddle to Lena (rival to Lena), who is able to surpass her. Just how Jeremy is the inspiration for a chad Ian to go after as many girls as possible, but Jeremy himself can always be undermined by Ian and isn't allow to win one over him (unless Ian choses to be a whimp).
It just doesn't make sense how Ian and Jeremy gush about Ivy in like chapter 2, but they can end up with Lena very fast and considering how debauched and desirable Lena can be, is it really an accomplishment if they fuck Ivy in chapter 14 onwards?
Considering Jeremy who gets to fuck Lena is still head over heels for Ivy (and how Ian similarly is pretty smitten with Ivy even when he's in relationship with Lena from early on) it does say something about how Lena/Ivy are positioned relative to each other. And yes, getting it on with Ivy is clearly something those two would consider an accomplishment, they say as much.
Maybe it didn't happen in your playthrough, but it can happen in others. Which means within in this game, Lena, Ian and Holly all have the potential to be more promiscuous than Ivy. It may very well be, that outside the game Ivy is fucking around, left , right and centre, but so far the evidence is all circumstantial. Whereas, with these three we can actually see it.
For instance, it's possible for Ian to have sex with Gillian, Lena, Cindy, Alison, Emma, Cherry, Minerva, Louise and Jessica in a single playthrough. Whereas Lena, can have sex with Ian, Robert, Mike, Axel or Jack, Seymour, Jeremy, Holly or Mark,Louise and Ivy, plus another guy she meets at Blazers, and give Marcel a BJ. And then Holly can have sex with Mark, Robert, Lena and Ivy, plus gives BJ's to about 5 or 6 guys in a gloryhole. Ivy on the other hand has sex with Lena and Holly, Mike out of picture, and gives Jeremy, plus one guy in the gloryhole a BJ.
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You're failing to understand what "canon" means. Canon is true in all playthroughs. Your results are what you got based on your choices, and you can talk about that from that perspective. Your results are not canonical to the game as a whole, just in your specific playthrough. None of these characters (except Ivy and Axel, and some of the support players) have a definite personality because they are all dependent on Ian and Lena's choices (really, the player's choices, right?). This is what makes ORS so amazing. Everything is so very variable and interactive. I've never played a game that was so different based on choices.
No, you're failing to understand what I'm talking about. I suggested that in SOME circumstances Ivy was not the most promiscuous person in the game, as is generally assumed. Obviously, on some playthroughs that is not the case, but on a lot it definitely is. But people still act like Lena, Ian and Holly are not fucking around more than she is. Ivy might give the distinct impression that she's very promiscous, but we see little direct evidence of it within the game. So we don't really know if it's happening or not, or at least how frequently. But in the case of those three characters, we see everything they do, so we know for a fact, exactly how promiscuous they can be.
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That's not what you said. What you're saying now I can agree with. You made blanket statements about the characters which is what I replied to initially.
Do you still not understanding that in their (and my) games Ian and Holly and Lena are NOT fucking around more that Ivy? I have literally never experienced a game where Ivy was the chaste one of the characters. I have never played a version of this game where Holly was sleeping around with everyone, and only one playthrough where Holly was corrupted by Ivy. I was not happy with that route, and started over. I haven't done a playthrough with the Trinity (I-L-H), but I want to go that route next.
Jeremy and Ivy are sort of counterparts for each other, and are always the biggest sluts in the game. They are the corrupt ones, that others may wish to join or compete with. Just because they're not fucking you (as Ian or Lena), doesn't mean that they're not fucking away off-camera. In fact, they both often brag about just that.
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Ivy kinda reminds me of Queen Elizabeth 1 "The virgin Queen". She took no husbands in her life time but had many recorded lovers lol. But she was officially recognized as a virgin. Kinda like the way you guys are referring to Ivy right now 
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Ivy is the biggest slut in the game, unless you count Jess
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El_Magnifico
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And there's nothing wrong with that.
SerHawkes
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Sad day indeed.
Also... such bullshit blasphemy I'm hearing of late. I shall not stand for it.
SerHawkes
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The problem is that sexual liberation is seen as necessarily leading to a loss of interests and values in other things and other people.
How can a woman sleep around and also judge people based on their character?
How can a woman sleep around and be a deep and intellectual writer?
Men are not normally limited in this way. A guy can sleep with tons of women yet be a powerful and noble character. Women are generally not allowed that, which is sad.
Corruption as a kink needs more nuance and layers to be interesting for me I guess. Surface level stuff is just boring.
How can a woman sleep around and also judge people based on their character?
How can a woman sleep around and be a deep and intellectual writer?
Men are not normally limited in this way. A guy can sleep with tons of women yet be a powerful and noble character. Women are generally not allowed that, which is sad.
Corruption as a kink needs more nuance and layers to be interesting for me I guess. Surface level stuff is just boring.
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Well, according to some users a good corruption leads to romance and bad corruption leads to sex, not kidding. Dude ranted how women must be corrupted to prove that they are sluts. Not to mention, he doesn't even know what a corruption is. I guess women should never be in love and have sex to not be seen as corrupted.
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Lolicon Kami
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1) Check version number of game (opening page of this forum)
2) Check changelog that correspond with version number (opening page of this forum)
3) Decide if you like the content enough to download, or if you'll skip
Sometimes it takes time to update changelog because this is a fan-forum
Also recently, changes have become more incremental. Sometimes a new update only adds one new scene, or adds images to a previous scene that didn't have any illustrations. Depends on the update
Well since you've obviously never played the routes where Lena, Ian and Holly are promiscuous, by your own admission. Well it's not surprising you'd never seen it. Unlike you, I've played both, so I reckon I have a better understanding than you.
I never said, that in all cases, other characters are more promiscious than Ivy, only that they are in some parts of the game. And by definition, that means you can say that they're more promiscuous in THE GAME, if not in every part of THE GAME (which I never specifically said, you just incorrectly interpreted it that way). So I'm not changing anything. You just assumed I was saying something, that I never did.
Everything you claim about Ivy, is circumstantial. There is no actual evidence within the game, that she's fucking anybody, apart from the ones we see and one we dont, in the case of Mike. Yes, she fucks around no doubt, but how frequently that occurs is unknown, because no actual indication is given. With Ian and Lena, and now Holly, we know exactly how many people they are sleeping with, on some routes. Because we actually see it, or at least we see videos or photos on the phone in Holly's case.
And for all those people suggesting that Ivy has had sex with loads of people outside the game, and this proves she's a slut. Well I never said she wasn't. Only that Ian and Lena, and maybe now Holly, are much more promiscuous within the actual game. You can see. the obvious difference, between 'within' the game and 'outside' it, I assume? Whatever is insinuated, does not make it so, 'within' the actual gameplay of this game. And within the actual gameplay of this game, Ivy is not the most promiscuous. That is most certainly Lena, with Ian following hard on her heels. And yes, that isn't the case on every route, but it is on some. And since they occur within the game, it's perfectly true to say that Ian and Lena are more promiscuous than Ivy, in this game. And if you interpret that to mean something completely different, well that's all down to you.
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