VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[Esti]

Also, until chapter 10, Ian can interact with her around three times and gain relationship points, so why include them if there was no further plans?

Because it could matter on Lena path, of course. Like Ian doesn't really interact with Seymour either (and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't fuck), but he can win his favor. Or with Axel, for that matter. Good Jess couldn't be fucked if I remember correctly. Gaining points and establishing relationships isn't indicative of sexual content to come. And, hey, I wasn't thrilled about situation with Ivy either, but never had my hopes up. Now situation is changing.

So whatever Andrea wants, Lena should naturally serve to experience it, ORS was supposed to be Andrea's outlet for her fantasies.

That makes sense. Thanks.

 

[SerHawkes]

On Ians side he has to beat other men off...

Ayo???!!!

 

[SerHawkes]

I only got there around the chapter 9 rewrite, so I don't know how the first chapters were originally written, but Ian always shows interest in Ivy. On his side, she is clearly Jeremys love sex interest, he is going after her for the entire game and Ian/Lena can help or stop him, but that doesn't stop Ian, doesn't it? Cindy is Wade/Axel love interest and Ian is setup to swoop him from the get go, Emma is mainly Perrys love interest and the focus can shift greatly on Ian, Lena and a bit of Jeremy.
Also, until chapter 10, Ian can interact with her around three times and gain relationship points, so why include them if there was no further plans?

Looks like the old guy has to explain the history of ORS here... Let me get a chair...

-Ahem ahem- Come here you youngsters. Daddy Hawkes here is going to tell you a story.

Ages ago, before Eva Kiss decided to rework her story for brain dead retarded ass reasonings, there was a time when Ian had a moment with Ivy at the bar, had he been semi cordial with Axel. At the time, Ivy and Ian would chat a bit with either version of Jess in tow and Ian after wards, depending on how he possible handled Axel (depending on his relationship with Lena) could give a kiss on the cheek before leaving the bar.

This in turn, after the first rework of Wade, was changed from the kiss on the cheek to a flirty exchange that was meaningless, all what similiar tied to being on semi decent terms with Axel.

This again was reworked to the most current version of the bar scene where we are now forced to hang out with Jeremy and get no measure of flirting or cheek kissing with Ivy at all.

So... to some measure, Ivy and Ian had some interest prior, but thanks to EK's failed measure of balancing things, among other skill issues she has, it's only in recent times she's "rewarding" Ian and Ivy with meaningless fan service and exchanges.

 

[tykyfr10]

Does anyone have the save for Holly x Ian's last scene? I'd appreciate it.

 

[dolfe67]

Generally, girls want to insert themselves in a story and become the main character, changing everything around them to their whims. Meanwhile boys are content to stay as an outsider and accept the rules of the story, they use the main character as a tool without needing to emphasize with them.
ORS two different point of views show this: On Ians side he "builds" his book and has to beat other men or convince other persons in quick time events. The focus is on winning girls and convincing other person related to his art, career and physical competition.
With Lena, the music and athletic options barely have gameplay. Her music or stalkfap path focus on her interactions with others, how they react on her. She has it far more easier to get every love/sex interest and the focus lies on how she feels about it, why with Ian it is a more challenging and competitive aspect to "conquer" a woman. Lena is also far more customisable regarding her past behaviour and present looks.

That's just how men and women function. Despite all the equality bullshit talk, men still have to conquer women and then women have the last word to choose.

Not every LI must be for both MC, where is my Ian/Axel romance?

 

[HaremGamesHater]

What kinds of scenes or content are you hoping to see in the next chapter?

1) Lena + Stan
2) Lena + Stan
3) Lena + Stan
..........
99) Lena + Stan
100) Lena + Stan
..........

 

[BlandChili]

Not every LI must be for both MC, where is my Ian/Axel romance?

So little ambition~

 

[Saerwen]

Always wondered, why on earth anyone would believe that there was even a chance for it? It was clear from the start that ORS isn't about extreme fetishes, and from the first Seymour appearance - that he would never let anyone else touch Lena, if he is able.

Andrea had a good idea about Seymour and Dubai which would be interesting. Then dolfe67 ruined it with crap.

 

[Stilbruch]

Would anyone be interested in a sort of remaster for GGGB with the drawings upgraded to ORS quality and added animations?
Is that something EK would even do?

 

[BlandChili]

Would anyone be interested in a sort of remaster for GGGB with the drawings upgraded to ORS quality and added animations?

Not sure, maybe. Rather I may just rip the art and view it without playing the game, I feel like I've played my fill of GGGB personally.

Is that something EK would even do?

Herself? I doubt that, but she is working with that company that manages the game release for steam and she has a network of artists, I could see it being a proper remaster actually intended for steam release, this theoretical version would probably remove the parts with incest and rape however.

 

[88stanford88]

Would anyone be interested in a sort of remaster for GGGB with the drawings upgraded to ORS quality and added animations?
Is that something EK would even do?

It would be a great idea because the scenes are unwatchable in the 4k screens
GGGB renderings come out too bright and without the choreo contrast of those present in ORS
but in the meantime, new events could be added by creating additional scenes to delve into some aspects of Ashley and what she wants to achieve...
maybe I would add scenes of her in prison to sell drugs and a way out to rehabilitate her image after prison

 

[ffive]

So in Andrea's case, she internalized her own sex life and sex fantasies (which she wants to display to the world, why else would she have a blog about it) on Lena. So whatever Andrea wants, Lena should naturally serve to experience it, ORS was supposed to be Andrea's outlet for her fantasies.

I'm going to throw a spanner in the works of this theory -- Andrea is actually a male name in some countries.

Also, you can see in threads for some other games on this forum that women are far from only people who write obsessive fanfics about characters in these games. There's plenty of guys who pen literal pages of what should happen to female protagonists in their favorite piece (often similarly only tangentially connected with the game's actual plot, if connected at all) and there's no need to guess if these are typed with one hand or two.

 

[dolfe67]

Andrea had a good idea about Seymour and Dubai which would be interesting. Then dolfe67 ruined it with crap.

How did I ruin it?

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Ivy is always a corrupting force in every facet of the game. Player choice only determines whether the corruption works.

She can't be a corrupting force in every part of the game, because she's not involved in every part of the game. Apart from Ian himself, she barely has anything to do with his side of the game. She doesn't really impact any of his friends, or the storylines connected with them.

In any case, I never suggested she wasn't a corrupting force. I only suggested she wasn't the most promiscuous person in the game, as a lot of people seem to believe. Lena and Ian are both more promiscuous than her, within the actual game. If you include everything that may have happened prior to the game, then very likely that wouldn't be the case. But I was never talking about that, so no matter how many people try to force it into the discussion, that still won't make it any more relevant.

 

[Stilbruch]

this theoretical version would probably remove the parts with incest and rape however.

I don't remember a rape scene in GGGB, what scene are you talking about?

 

[varpep]

I'm going to throw a spanner in the works of this theory -- Andrea is actually a male name in some countries.

Also, you can see in threads for some other games on this forum that women are far from only people who write obsessive fanfics about characters in these games. There's plenty of guys who pen literal pages of what should happen to female protagonists in their favorite piece (often similarly only tangentially connected with the game's actual plot, if connected at all) and there's no need to guess if these are typed with one hand or two.

ffive is actually a unisex name so ffive may actually be a unisex hamster that is a Stan lover I see you...

 

[BlandChili]

I don't remember a rape scene in GGGB, what scene are you talking about?

For example if she goes to the gang hideout and refuses to have sex with the gangbanger, he'll rape her instead. Jasmine also rapes Ash in the gym shower and arthur can drug and rape her. Ash can also end up in prison and get raped by the dominant woman there I think, though I never played that route myself.

 

[ffive]

ffive is actually a unisex name so ffive may actually be a unisex hamster that is a Stan lover I see you...

I'm actually Lola's moral fibre. But, shh.

 

[Saerwen]

For example if she goes to the gang hideout and refuses to have sex with the gangbanger, he'll rape her instead. Jasmine also rapes Ash in the gym shower and arthur can drug and rape her. Ash can also end up in prison and get raped by the dominant woman there I think, though I never played that route myself.

Yikes, I didn't know that the game was so dark. Kinky and hardcore sure. It's good I played using walkthrough and avoided those routes.

 

[BlandChili]

Yikes, I didn't know that the game was so dark. Kinky and hardcore sure. It's good I played using walkthrough and avoided those routes.

Ash can get shot and die and Eva can commit suicide.