VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[Zara Scarlet]

Sorry, but it seems like you’ve created an idealized, overly sexualized version of Lena in your head, and you’re unwilling to accept that not everyone sees or plays her that way. You tend to treat anyone who portrays her differently as if they’re wrong, and at this point, there’s really no point in arguing with you — you seem completely set in your ways.

Where exactly do I say that, except in your head? Sorry, but you're obviously not paying attention. If you were, you'd know I was only talking about that part of the game where Lena is a slut. The entire discussion has been about who is the most promiscuous, Ivy or Lena, so why would I be bothered about the version of Lena who isn't one in this instance? Come on, it's not rocket science to work out that I couldn't possibly be talking about the version of Lena who is in a monogamous relationship with Ian. I'm perfectly well aware that many people play Lena as a faithful girlfriend, because I play her that way as well, on one playthrough. And just because you don't want to envisage Lena as a dirty slut, doesn't mean that versions of her like that, aren't in the game. Maybe, you're the one who doesn't want to accept that Lena can be played that way?

 

[Zara Scarlet]

No, Zara clearly have sluttification kink like the majority of players, though idk why is there that fixation to prove who's the biggest dick worshipper.

It's true, I love corrupting girls into dirty sluts. I play pretty much every female protagonist game on this site, where that's a possibility. But that doesn't mean I don't play other routes, where that doesn't happen. Why do you think there are so many games, that are entirely built around that premise? It's definitely not because a lot of people hate it.

 

[varpep]

Lena's dad is not a new character though.

If we're talking about characters already in game I will, as I always do, point at Cindy/Lena.

Maybe Ian could introduce Lena to his Chad buddy Wen He could teach her some "grappling".

 

[BlandChili]

Maybe Ian could introduce Lena to his Chad buddy Wen He could teach her some "grappling".

I could be game for that, Wen/Jeremy seems more likely though.

 

[ffive]

I could be game for that, Wen/Jeremy seems more likely though.

I dunno, Jeremy doesn't seem too receptive to Wen's grappling.

 

[BlandChili]

I dunno, Jeremy doesn't seem too receptive to Wen's grappling.

That princess is just playing hard to get!!

 

[ffive]

The entire discussion has been about who is the most promiscuous, Ivy or Lena

I still have yet to hear why this matters.

Is there some secret trophy to be collected after the game runs its course, but only for the most promiscuous girl, while everyone who loses this race has emotional breakdown, vows to do better and departs to distant mountains for a training arc?

srsly, it's like all those "who would win, X or Y" talks of the superhero/shonen comic book nerds.

 

[Saerwen]

I still have yet to hear why this matters.

Is there some secret trophy to be collected after the game runs its course, but only for the most promiscuous girl, while everyone who loses this race has emotional breakdown, vows to do better and departs to distant mountains for a training arc?

srsly, it's like all those "who would win, X or Y" talks of the superhero/shonen comic book nerds.

Or like the gen Z boys going on dates with multiple girls and ask them how many "body count" they have and at the end, judge which girl is the sluttiest. *Cringefest galore*

 

[varpep]

Or like the gen Z boys going on dates with multiple girls and ask them how many "body count" they have and at the end, judge which girl is the sluttiest. *Cringefest galore*

Don't forget the elusive "have you ever been with a black dude?" question on the first date.

 

[varpep]

Lena finally voiced her stance on this matter :/

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[BlandChili]

Lena finally voiced her stance on this matter :/

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I just wonder if it works the other way around

If she's with Holly will fucking men count as cheating?

 

[Gicoo]

I just wonder if it works the other way around

Yes, it won't be cheating when Ian cheats on Lena with Axel.

 

[NewSeal]

It seems I didn't really miss anything.
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I feel like I need to correct some of the examples brought up in those comments, irrelevant as that may be.

The game didn't exactly have non-con content. All of the scenes mentioned required you to willingly choose the options, like going to Wilson's place, getting involved with Arthur, etc. Jasmine gropes/grabs Ashley in the showers, but does not have forceful sex with her, nor does Ashley get raped in prison.
Drugging Iris to have blindfolded sex with Arthur only to reveal during the act it was her own dad would fall under dubcon (by hentai/porn standards) because she did agree to have sex with Ashley's mysterious older man, so it was corrupting and manipulative, but not non-consensual. So much so that the game lacks the "rape" tag.

However I will not stand for GGGB slander the game is a masterclass in branching, being one of the first on this site that offered an alternative to corruption other than just not getting corrupted. Granted, it's a lot more "linear" than ORS
but the level of freedom in the player's choices is still insane. To this day, when I occasionally replay it, there's still brand new possible outcomes or character combinations in the story I'd never even knew were possible.

That said, I don't think a remaster is necessary either, especially when there's so much more to be done in the development of ORS. And please no more returning characters either, be them cameos or part of the story, develop the new ones you created and haven't explored Eva!

 

[BlandChili]

The game didn't exactly have non-con content. All of the scenes mentioned required you to willingly choose the options, like going to Wilson's place, getting involved with Arthur, etc. Jasmine gropes/grabs Ashley in the showers, but does not have forceful sex with her, nor does Ashley get raped in prison.
Drugging Iris to have blindfolded sex with Arthur only to reveal during the act it was her own dad would fall under dubcon (by hentai/porn standards) because she did agree to have sex with Ashley's mysterious older man, so it was corrupting and manipulative, but not non-consensual. So much so that the game lacks the "rape" tag.

Regardless of the optionality of the encounters that have been mentioned they nonetheless exist in the game and the current mood on the market is very anti-rape when it comes to adult content, luckily imo, but regardless of how anyone feels about it, I suspect that regardless of what official TOS is, Steam will want to steer more clear of such material in the future.

More of a hunch than anything though.

 

[NewSeal]

Regardless of the optionality of the encounters that have been mentioned they nonetheless exist in the game and the current mood on the market it very anti-rape when it comes to adult content, luckily imo, but regardless of how anyone feels about it I suspect that regardless of what official TOS is, Steam will want to steer more clear of such material in the future.

More of a hunch than anything though.

Yes, if the game was to come out on steam some parts would have to be changed or cut out entirely, though it seems that much like Patreon, they are fine with a lot of non-consensual content but will nuke the game at the slightest sight of incest.
And I agree that such marketing is a good thing, which is why I wanted to clear out that none of those encounters had forced sex, especially when the developer herself has always been transparent on saying that her games would not have non-consensual content.

 

[Ray_D]

All I want for Christmas is being able to punch Axel in the throat and make him eat through a tube for the rest of his fictive life.

I genuinely don't care about any form of romance path atp, just make it a MMA simulator, let Ian get tribal tattoos, get on a tren cycle, fight in the UFC, fail a drug test and go on a rampage.

Maybe Stan or Perry getting hit by a truck as well.

Also advancing the Bad Jess storyline cuz it looks interesting.

Soon, very soon.

 

[dolfe67]

I don't know, I think there are dubcon hentai VN on Steam (maybe they require an additional patch though). Then again committing genocide is fine but raping a couple of women is not

 

[BlandChili]

I don't know, I think there are dubcon hentai VN on Steam (maybe they require an additional patch though). Then again committing genocide is fine but raping a couple of women is not

There's plenty of content with dub and probably also non-con on steam.

But there recently was a big stink about one particular game recently that I don't recall the name of, sometimes such stinks leads to TOS changes, though the corporate side can be slow when it comes to that sort of thing.

I could see that the company Eva works with might encourage Eva to write out at least the over non-con, just to be future-proof-

 

[InkAndSaliva]

Steam has incest visual novels, pretty sure there are ones that include dub and noncon too. Only thing they're 100% hard line against is underage characters/school settings. I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually changed their TOS to crack down harder on incest and rape VNs, but it's not a matter of policy yet.

 

[IlikebeingaDIK]

Soon, very soon.
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Inshallah.