VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[BlandChili]

Lena finally voiced her stance on this matter :/

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I just wonder if it works the other way around

If she's with Holly will fucking men count as cheating?

 

[Gicoo]

I just wonder if it works the other way around

Yes, it won't be cheating when Ian cheats on Lena with Axel.

 

[NewSeal]

It seems I didn't really miss anything.
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I feel like I need to correct some of the examples brought up in those comments, irrelevant as that may be.

The game didn't exactly have non-con content. All of the scenes mentioned required you to willingly choose the options, like going to Wilson's place, getting involved with Arthur, etc. Jasmine gropes/grabs Ashley in the showers, but does not have forceful sex with her, nor does Ashley get raped in prison.
Drugging Iris to have blindfolded sex with Arthur only to reveal during the act it was her own dad would fall under dubcon (by hentai/porn standards) because she did agree to have sex with Ashley's mysterious older man, so it was corrupting and manipulative, but not non-consensual. So much so that the game lacks the "rape" tag.

However I will not stand for GGGB slander the game is a masterclass in branching, being one of the first on this site that offered an alternative to corruption other than just not getting corrupted. Granted, it's a lot more "linear" than ORS
but the level of freedom in the player's choices is still insane. To this day, when I occasionally replay it, there's still brand new possible outcomes or character combinations in the story I'd never even knew were possible.

That said, I don't think a remaster is necessary either, especially when there's so much more to be done in the development of ORS. And please no more returning characters either, be them cameos or part of the story, develop the new ones you created and haven't explored Eva!

 

[BlandChili]

The game didn't exactly have non-con content. All of the scenes mentioned required you to willingly choose the options, like going to Wilson's place, getting involved with Arthur, etc. Jasmine gropes/grabs Ashley in the showers, but does not have forceful sex with her, nor does Ashley get raped in prison.
Drugging Iris to have blindfolded sex with Arthur only to reveal during the act it was her own dad would fall under dubcon (by hentai/porn standards) because she did agree to have sex with Ashley's mysterious older man, so it was corrupting and manipulative, but not non-consensual. So much so that the game lacks the "rape" tag.

Regardless of the optionality of the encounters that have been mentioned they nonetheless exist in the game and the current mood on the market is very anti-rape when it comes to adult content, luckily imo, but regardless of how anyone feels about it, I suspect that regardless of what official TOS is, Steam will want to steer more clear of such material in the future.

More of a hunch than anything though.

 

[NewSeal]

Regardless of the optionality of the encounters that have been mentioned they nonetheless exist in the game and the current mood on the market it very anti-rape when it comes to adult content, luckily imo, but regardless of how anyone feels about it I suspect that regardless of what official TOS is, Steam will want to steer more clear of such material in the future.

More of a hunch than anything though.

Yes, if the game was to come out on steam some parts would have to be changed or cut out entirely, though it seems that much like Patreon, they are fine with a lot of non-consensual content but will nuke the game at the slightest sight of incest.
And I agree that such marketing is a good thing, which is why I wanted to clear out that none of those encounters had forced sex, especially when the developer herself has always been transparent on saying that her games would not have non-consensual content.

 

[Ray_D]

All I want for Christmas is being able to punch Axel in the throat and make him eat through a tube for the rest of his fictive life.

I genuinely don't care about any form of romance path atp, just make it a MMA simulator, let Ian get tribal tattoos, get on a tren cycle, fight in the UFC, fail a drug test and go on a rampage.

Maybe Stan or Perry getting hit by a truck as well.

Also advancing the Bad Jess storyline cuz it looks interesting.

Soon, very soon.

 

[dolfe67]

I don't know, I think there are dubcon hentai VN on Steam (maybe they require an additional patch though). Then again committing genocide is fine but raping a couple of women is not

 

[BlandChili]

I don't know, I think there are dubcon hentai VN on Steam (maybe they require an additional patch though). Then again committing genocide is fine but raping a couple of women is not

There's plenty of content with dub and probably also non-con on steam.

But there recently was a big stink about one particular game recently that I don't recall the name of, sometimes such stinks leads to TOS changes, though the corporate side can be slow when it comes to that sort of thing.

I could see that the company Eva works with might encourage Eva to write out at least the over non-con, just to be future-proof-

 

[InkAndSaliva]

Steam has incest visual novels, pretty sure there are ones that include dub and noncon too. Only thing they're 100% hard line against is underage characters/school settings. I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually changed their TOS to crack down harder on incest and rape VNs, but it's not a matter of policy yet.

 

[IlikebeingaDIK]

Soon, very soon.
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Inshallah.

 

[ChapulinColorado]

Does anyone know how to make it so that Wade is the one who decides to break up with Cindy?

 

[Gicoo]

Does anyone know how to make it so that Wade is the one who decides to break up with Cindy?

Generally, Ian musn't pursue Cindy himself, else the options to help them are greyed out. Also, he must be in a good relationship with Cindy, else he won't accompany her to some crucial events to give her advice.

Early on, he accompanies Cindy if he has decent points with her, but to help Wade, he musn't be interested with her (choosing the lust options). Then he can tell Wade to fight for her. He can accompany Cindy to the gallery, but its crucial that he tells her to go with Wade for her first shooting. In chapter 9, he should chaperone Cindy, which requires high points and charisma so that he can interfer when Axel goes too far (touching her ass).

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

I was wondering, is there anything we can do to fix the Wade-Cindy relationship ? Also, how does that stat related to Wade and Cindy actually work ?


At this point I guess we can say the relationship is pretty much doomed or at least that seems very likely. With or without Axel’s interference the two were already drifting apart and seemed to have opposite goals.


I’m curious what’s next for Wade after his breakdown like how will he change if at all after that episode where he seems to have some kind of revelation following his drug trip ?

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

Generally, Ian musn't pursue Cindy himself, else the options to help them are greyed out. Also, he must be in a good relationship with Cindy, else he won't accompany her to some crucial events to give her advice.

Early on, he accompanies Cindy if he has decent points with her, but to help Wade, he musn't be interested with her (choosing the lust options). Then he can tell Wade to fight for her. He can accompany Cindy to the gallery, but its crucial that he tells her to go with Wade for her first shooting. In chapter 9, he should chaperone Cindy, which requires high points and charisma so that he can interfer when Axel goes too far (touching her ass).

Ah, I didn’t catch all that, or maybe it just flew under my radar. So Wade ends up fighting for her and standing up to Axel ? That’s interesting. I guess there are multiple possible routes for those two.


We’ll see how it turns out, but honestly I’m not really convinced Cindy’s worth it. x) She gives in way too easily and lets Axel mess with her without much resistance.

 

[varpep]

I was wondering, is there anything we can do to fix the Wade-Cindy relationship ? Also, how does that stat related to Wade and Cindy actually work ?


At this point I guess we can say the relationship is pretty much doomed or at least that seems very likely. With or without Axel’s interference the two were already drifting apart and seemed to have opposite goals.


I’m curious what’s next for Wade after his breakdown like how will he change if at all after that episode where he seems to have some kind of revelation following his drug trip ?

If you as Ian help Wade and Cindy with their relationship, they still end up breaking up but they do it on better terms. Also it's possible they could still end up back together. Cindy shows concern for Wade after the break up and Wade has moved on relatively quickly as he is seen asking Mercedes for her number(lucky bastard ).

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

If you as Ian help Wade and Cindy with their relationship, they still end up breaking up but they do it on better terms. Also it's possible they could still end up back together. Cindy shows concern for Wade after the break up and Wade has moved on relatively quickly as he is seen asking Mercedes for her number(lucky bastard ).

Ah, okay, well that sounds like it’s shaping up to bring some surprises. I’m guessing the Wade or Ian drama with Cindy is about to get even more intense. Haha, yeah, on that route Wade seems to move on pretty quickly

 

[BlandChili]

Ah, okay, well that sounds like it’s shaping up to bring some surprises. I’m guessing the Wade or Ian drama with Cindy is about to get even more intense. Haha, yeah, on that route Wade seems to move on pretty quickly

Cindy also seems to stay out of Axel's clutches, at least for the most part, on the route where Ian helps them out. So presumably there is something there to revisit too.

For someone who'd had an eye out of Lena/Cindy all game the fact there is a route where she's with neither Wade, Ian nor Axel is quite interesting. But like varep said this route could also be one where Wade and Cindy can get back together, alternatively it could also be a "late Cindy" route for Ian so the player can get with her without having to make her cheat on Wade, thus making Ian at least a bit less terrible as a friend.

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

Cindy also seems to stay out of Axel's clutches, at least for the most part, on the route where Ian helps them out. So presumably there is something there to revisit too.

For someone who'd had an eye out of Lena/Cindy all game the fact there is a route where she's with neither Wade, Ian nor Axel is quite interesting. But like varep said this route could also be one where Wade and Cindy can get back together, alternatively it could also be a "late Cindy" route for Ian so the player can get with her without having to make her cheat on Wade, thus making Ian at least a bit less terrible as a friend.

I need to take another look at the Wade Cindy route it actually seems pretty interesting. It's cool how much influence Ian can have on his friends, you can really push them in different directions, good or bad.

Curious to see where things go with Cindy later in the game. I doubt there’ll be a lot of branches with her though since Eva Kiss already has a ton of characters and relationships to juggle.

Would be kind of a shame if Cindy just disappears from Ian's group after a breakup. Maybe she’ll just pop up at the end so we know what happened to her. Guess we’ll see what Eva Kiss's planning.

 

[BlandChili]

I need to take another look at the Wade Cindy route it actually seems pretty interesting. It's cool how much influence Ian can have on his friends, you can really push them in different directions good or bad.

Curious to see where things go with Cindy later in the game. I doubt there’ll be a lot of branches with her though since Eva Kiss already has a ton of characters and relationships to juggle.

Would be kind of a shame if Cindy just disappears from Ian's group after a breakup. Maybe she’ll just pop up at the end so we know what happened to her. Guess we’ll see what Eva Kiss's planning.

Right, this is why the Lena direction could be kinda interesting too, even if you disregard the possibility of the two of them being sexual or romantic options: Cindy's path, regardless of player choice, seems to steer her away from the friend-group at least temporarily, even if her and Ian are together they would probably want to wait a while to announce being together to the rest of Ian's pals to temper any fallout.
So Cindy could be heading into story points that are mainly dealing with Axel and how he interacts with Seymour and Lena, even if she's less interested in modelling. I might presume that Eva still has her work out her WildCats contract and perhaps Lena can in some form, either herself or through Axel perhaps, influence where Cindy is heading on the open route. Keep in mind that Lena can be with Axel, at least sexually, and Eva might want the player to be able to decide whether they tolerate Axel/Cindy in that case, again depending on how much Axel's route becomes about Lena ceasing her independence to him for sexual gratification.

 

[derekmoon]

why only one black guy jeremy， add more plz