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I think that's a fairly common delusion with people imagining what could be while being in unrequited love, not only out of their league but even of incompatible lifestyles, cultures or even unavailable people. If anything it's the whole exaggerated Chad-Cuck universal hierarchy becoming gospel that's rather new to me and sounds unrealistic. Whole point of the INCEL thing is that entertainment and social media overly defined who's desirable, telling the guys they aren't Chads and that the girl next to them isn't... Britney?, and the inevitable day to day frustrations confirmed it. I don't think I'm imagining that European millennials are healthier on average.
He's a good character, portrayed quite realistically, as an incel. But it's not realistic that he's a LI for Lena. He's at best a side character like Ed the cafe owner.
 

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Stan laying down his sword during confession. Many subreddits were unmoderated that day.
Don't sure about it, after Stan being rejected he ranted on Lena with anti-women statements, which gave me a reason to write him off as a typical 4chan user who hates women because they ignore him. Perry gives more of a "stereotypical redditor" vibe. Annoying, arrogant and whiny snob with social communication issues.
 

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Bi-curious would be the right word.
No it would not be. Holly had a girl before Lena that she had a deep emotional interest in, she is canonically bisexual and clearly identifies as such.
During Holly's nude photoshoot, "nudge Holly" (+1).
Doesn't the nude photoshoot happen after the point in which she needs to decide not to go with Mark at the nightclub?
 

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I wonder if Cindy will get pregnant by Ian on their romance path? She keeps talking about not knowing what she wants, and Eva loves doing "bred by someone she didn't expect" endings, so I could see Cindy's path ending with her becoming a Stay At Home Mom and finding she loves being a mother and traditional housewife.
 

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All the writers that Ian and Holly meet are fantasy writers. Are there no Tom Clancy or John Grisham-types in Hierofant's stable of writers?

Why not make Victor White the author of "Jack Reacher-esque" vigilante thrillers, or have Holly be the author of a series of right wing political thrillers where Holly's main character is a CIA hitman who assassinates Middle Eastern terrorists and Russian/North Korean/Chinese warmongers?
 

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All the writers that Ian and Holly meet are fantasy writers. Are there no Tom Clancy or John Grisham-types in Hierofant's stable of writers?

Why not make Victor White the author of "Jack Reacher-esque" vigilante thrillers, or have Holly be the author of a series of right wing political thrillers where Holly's main character is a CIA hitman who assassinates Middle Eastern terrorists and Russian/North Korean/Chinese warmongers?
Victor writes Science Fiction.
Elaborating on the writing genres wouldn't add to the game. It doesn't focus on the content. We interact with Holly for 13 chapters and we have no concrete idea of what her book series is about. Because it only matters indirectly to her character development.
 

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I wonder if Cindy will get pregnant by Ian on their romance path? She keeps talking about not knowing what she wants, and Eva loves doing "bred by someone she didn't expect" endings, so I could see Cindy's path ending with her becoming a Stay At Home Mom and finding she loves being a mother and traditional housewife.
If there's going to be any pregnancy it would be Alison she clearly wants kids she just looking for the stability to take that plunge.
 

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Victor writes Science Fiction.
Elaborating on the writing genres wouldn't add to the game. It doesn't focus on the content. We interact with Holly for 13 chapters and we have no concrete idea of what her book series is about. Because it only matters indirectly to her character development.
Yeah though it does pique my curiosity to see judging the songs/novel has been made objective and technical, and I do respect the effort, between the lag the shift of mechanics creates and the fact that it's all ultimately shit pulp, that's my least favourite part of playing, even cringier than the wrestling minigame.
 

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Yeah though it does pique my curiosity to see judging the songs/novel has been made objective and technical, and I do respect the effort, between the lag the shift of mechanics creates and the fact that it's all ultimately shit pulp, that's my least favourite part of playing, even cringier than the wrestling minigame.
I just hope they actually matter end game when it comes to endings cause picking the right choices gets tedious alot of times
 
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I wonder if Cindy will get pregnant by Ian on their romance path? She keeps talking about not knowing what she wants, and Eva loves doing "bred by someone she didn't expect" endings, so I could see Cindy's path ending with her becoming a Stay At Home Mom and finding she loves being a mother and traditional housewife.
This got me thinking what the character's children will look like :unsure:. Cindy and Axel's kids are going to be literally perfect and absolute psychos lol. Perry and Emma's kids are going to be either very short or very tall. Jeremy and Alison's kids are going to be tall and well endowed in all departments. Wade and Lena's kids are gonna be supermodels (a man can dream can't he?). Ian and Holly's kids are going to be adorable and just perfect. So SerHawkes doesn't crucify me, Ian and Ivy's kids are going to perfect :whistle:
 

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I just hope they actually matter end game when it comes to endings cause picking the right choices gets tedious alot of times
Agreed, but sure will be alright at least for the ending in terms of financial/social success/failure (I think in GGGB everything was sort of tied up more or less neatly in various ending montages, even if some of the stuff built up to did not become relevant during "gameplay"). Would be more worth it if we get to play through some of the resulting circumstances, though, which should be the plan I think, otherwise there's a whole bunch of loose dots, not just the novel and lyrics stuff but between the various options wtih Seymore, asking the family for or loaning them money, buying the gifts, paying out rent, kissing minerva's ass... I mena it can't be all for nothing!
 

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Victor writes Science Fiction.
Elaborating on the writing genres wouldn't add to the game. It doesn't focus on the content. We interact with Holly for 13 chapters and we have no concrete idea of what her book series is about. Because it only matters indirectly to her character development.
I think Holly said she writes adventure novels with a female lead, maybe fantasy, even though she only mentioned it briefly and without many details. She tells Lena that she makes up for her shyness and flaws through the characters she creates and says Lena would be the perfect heroine in her eyes.

Correct me if I’m wrong, that’s just something I remembered. But yeah, the game’s story doesn’t really reveal much about that, and it’s not really important. Still, it makes me curious about what she might write.
 

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Holly’s book is called The Ice Flower. That seems like a very on the nose parody of A Game of Thrones to me, and with a soon to be released sequel, this could lead to a book series that parodies A Song of Ice and Fire. (At least if Ivy’s influence doesn’t lead to her exploring the idea of erotic fiction)
 

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Bi-curious would be the right word.

I’d say both bisexual and bicurious fit Holly. She’s clearly bisexual in her feelings for Lena on that route, while her unrequited feelings for Ian are still there after what happened between them early in the game. And of course, the three-way relationship with Ian, Holly and Lena also fits within that context.

On the Ivy and Lena route, she’s more in a phase of exploring her sexuality, so she’s bicurious at that point. During that time, she’s open to being with girls but still spends time with guys who seem to remain her main focus, at least that’s how I see it.

To me, the term bicurious implies more of a slight attraction or sexual openness toward people of the same sex, while bisexuality involves both sexual and romantic attraction to both sexes without distinction.
 
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All the writers that Ian and Holly meet are fantasy writers. Are there no Tom Clancy or John Grisham-types in Hierofant's stable of writers?
If you get a job at Hierofant your early task is to go through a sample of submissions they get as a publisher. It's quite broader than just fantasy.
 
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