varpep

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Not much really. Ian can encourage Perry and Emma to go for the respective other person, then Perry confesses and Emma accepts.

Socrambus scenario is possible, but its not the only way Ian can behave. He can also make a move on Emma and not pretend to help Perry, effectively telling him that Perry is on is own and if someone (like Ian) makes a move on Emma, that's entirely naturally. Emma is not reserved for Perry and can date whoever she wants, so the entire brocode upholding doesn't apply, unless you make Ian pretend to help Perry while having him fuck Emma as well.
Alternatively you could fuck Emma and even help Jeremy fuck her too and still set her up with Perry successfully. This does still make you a questionable friend but at least you deliver on your promise.
 

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Alternatively you could fuck Emma and even help Jeremy fuck her too and still set her up with Perry successfully. This does still make you a questionable friend but at least you deliver on your promise.
Ian: "Hey, Perry, I delivered you an Emma, just as I promised. Jeremy and I even made some test runs on her to ensure she is working properly."
 

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Oh, I thought you guys were implying that Perry went batshit crazy after learning that Ian sabotaged any chance he had with Emma in such a scenario. Like taking a baseball bat and wrecking Ian's room or somehow messing up his writing career in some way or doing something else just as nefarious. Not just "not much really". Either Perry just won't stand up for himself and lies down and takes it, or he's like internally monologuing to convince himself that he's chill, like super chill, like there's nothing to worry about at all level of chill because he is chillness personified even after what his buddy did...
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Edit: Added an omitted word, bat. Gives a totally different visual if Perry went ballistic while holding just a baseball versus a baseball bat, right? ^^'
Anyway, nothing to see here. Perry's just being chill regardless of circumstances, I think. :whistle:
 
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Oh, I thought you guys were implying that Perry went batshit crazy after learning that Ian sabotaged any chance he had with Emma in such a scenario.
Nah, he acts within character, sour and a bit resentful, not much different than usual. It would have been interesting if there were some path that involved him finding out by hearing the squeals before *has a chance to confess, along with the rest of the group, which could have ended with Ian being forced to move out of the apartment
 

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This is the only game in this f95 that shouldn't have Harem tag in it, yet there's still Harem tag here
 

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This is the only game in this f95 that shouldn't have Harem tag in it, yet there's still Harem tag here
The harem tag has the following definition on this forum:
Harem [1 person being courted by at least 3 others, all engaging in consensual sex simultaneously.]
Both protagonists in this game can meet this requirement easily.
 

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The harem tag has the following definition on this forum:

Both protagonists in this game can meet this requirement easily.
There is foursome? MC + at least 3 others. Anyway that's not really a harem if you only fuck (what harem players want)
 

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Yeah, I don't get it. There is no foursome (yet).

In general, the definition of the tag and/or the application in this game should be challenged.
 

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There is foursome? MC + at least 3 others. Anyway that's not really a harem if you only fuck (what harem players want)
Yeah, I don't get it. There is no foursome (yet).

In general, the definition of the tag and/or the application in this game should be challenged.
I think the open route where Ian & Lena fuck different girls suit that harem tag. Basically Lena being a cuckquean and bringing in different girls for Ian to have sex with.
 

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The harem tag has the following definition on this forum:
Harem [1 person being courted by at least 3 others, all engaging in consensual sex simultaneously.]
Both protagonists in this game can meet this requirement easily.
In the technical sense, calling it a harem may be a bit of a stretch; both Lena and Ian can pursue multiple partners during the same run but those are hookups or cheating, and even when it is the first that happens the hookup-er usually gets a negative reaction from at least one of the hookup-ee, so not everyone is chill with the idea. IMO the closest thing we can hope to get is the throuple

There is foursome? MC + at least 3 others. Anyway that's not really a harem if you only fuck (what harem players want)
As of this time, not yet. But I can see a foursome involving Lena, Holly, and Ivy, which may be just wishful thinking, but if it does it will likely be MFFF
 

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There is foursome? MC + at least 3 others. Anyway that's not really a harem if you only fuck (what harem players want)
I think simultaneously in this context means all those sexual partners/relationships happen in the same rough timeframe and without ending one relationship before establishing other(s), not all having sex at once in literally the same point in time. If it was the latter, then most of the games on this site with harem tag wouldn't qualify, lacking actual foursome (or more) scenes.
 

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I think simultaneously in this context means all those sexual partners/relationships happen in the same rough timeframe and without ending one relationship before establishing other(s), not all having sex at once in literally the same point in time. If it was the latter, then most of the games on this site with harem tag wouldn't qualify, lacking actual foursome (or more) scenes.
As this game proves wonderfully over and over, if the girls don't know about each other, you're not in/don't have a harem, you're just a cheating sob. :WeSmart:
 

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then most of the games on this site with harem tag wouldn't qualify, lacking actual foursome (or more) scenes.
harem doesn't necessarily mean group sex (though it happens a lot in harem games). You could have one where the protagonist has multiple girls that all know about each other and ok with it, but no one engages in 3+somes.
 

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As this game proves wonderfully over and over, if the girls don't know about each other, you're not in/don't have a harem, you're just a cheating sob. :WeSmart:
Yeah, but that's the case with many other of these supposed "harem" games -- the protagonist just fucks around with 5+ girls who often have no clue the other 4+ exist.

Also, it's not cheating when you never claimed you're in relationship to begin with. Even ORS agrees, and adjusts the cheating flags accordingly. :whistle:
 

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harem doesn't necessarily mean group sex (though it happens a lot in harem games). You could have one where the protagonist has multiple girls that all know about each other and ok with it, but no one engages in 3+somes.
This. From Google search: "A reverse harem is a literary and media concept where a female protagonist is pursued by three or more male characters, who are typically romantically or sexually involved with only her, and not each other". Now, it would be unfair not letting male characters to engage in sexual activity with each other. :devilish:
 

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This. From Google search: "A reverse harem is a literary and media concept where a female protagonist is pursued by three or more male characters, who are typically romantically or sexually involved with only her, and not each other". Now, i won't mind if male characters are engaging in sexual activity with each other, that would be unfair. :devilish:
That definition probably applies more to anime/cartoon where a male or female protagonist has several love interests, sometimes based on a dating sim, but they rarely seal the deal 'cause the majority are PG13, they only go through several would they won't they and shenanigans until a couple forms, they finally kiss, and the story ends. Even tho they get the tag of harem, it would not translate 1:1 to an AVN
 

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Yeah, but that's the case with many other of these supposed "harem" games -- the protagonist just fucks around with 5+ girls who often have no clue the other 4+ exist.

Also, it's not cheating when you never claimed you're in relationship to begin with. Even ORS agrees, and adjusts the cheating flags accordingly. :whistle:
Sure but they don't showcase cheating like ORS does, with all that entails (girls getting mad, jealous, etc.)

I wouldn't tag this game as harem, but who am I, right?
 

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This. From Google search: "A reverse harem is a literary and media concept where a female protagonist is pursued by three or more male characters, who are typically romantically or sexually involved with only her, and not each other". Now, it would be unfair not letting male characters to engage in sexual activity with each other. :devilish:
You should take a look at the history of Empress Wu Zetian. The only Chinese Empress in history. She had her own harem consisting of men who as well held different positions in Government. She had an interesting rise to power but I won't spoil that for you now :whistle:.
 
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