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I don't like him as the protagonist tho, he feels like a side character but dunno maybe I'm being biased because I'm a girl. Still even someone like Wade feels more like a main character design than Ian
How a lazy man who spends all his playing video games can be mc?lol He can’t even keep his GF.In opposite Ian are a writer,practice fighting and can bang many girls.
 
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Like i said, he's taller. :sneaky:

Slightly more seriously, it's not the first poster who makes that complaint, and that seems to align mostly with Ian's kind of "non-threatening average guy" image/energy which, to be fair, isn't that common as far as romance protagonists go.
Nah I understand. Post-manifesto Stan is probably her go-to as an MC for ORS.

Slightly more seriously, Wade doesn't fit any female romance stereotype that I know of. The only characters I could think of are Axel and pre-Simpocalypse Seymour.
 
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Nah I understand. Post-manifesto Stan is probably her go-to as an MC for ORS.

Slightly more seriously, Wade doesn't fit any female romance stereotype that I know of. The only characters I could think of are Axel and pre-Simpocalypse Seymour.
As someone who reads romance books for fun, you're mostly right, but an MMC can definitely start out like Wade, usually because something bad happened to him in the past. But by the end, he almost always changes, either to win the love of the FMC or because she inspires him to become a better version of himself.

Archetypes like Axel and Seymour tend to show up more often in erotica than in traditional romance. In romance, there are plenty of brooding bad boys, but not outright pieces of shit like Axel or Seymour. Or maybe I just avoid books that feature guys like that, so I don’t come across them often, I don’t know.
 

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Slightly more seriously, Wade doesn't fit any female romance stereotype that I know of.
I think he can be viewed as a combination of arguably handsome in not too distant past (Wade was the most popular out of the scooby doo gang AND the one who got Cindy interested enough to get in relationship with him in the first place) and the "i can fix him" material, where the player could convince themselves that they're the one who'd restore him to glory where Cindy has failed.
 

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As someone who reads romance books for fun, you're mostly right, but an MMC can definitely start out like Wade, usually because something bad happened to him in the past. But by the end, he almost always changes, either to win the love of the FMC or because she inspires him to become a better version of himself.

Archetypes like Axel and Seymour tend to show up more often in erotica than in traditional romance. In romance, there are plenty of brooding bad boys, but not outright pieces of shit like Axel or Seymour. Or maybe I just avoid books that feature guys like that, so I don’t come across them often, I don’t know.
I would still be very interested in playing an ORS prequel which starts at the first Axel/Lena/Cherry threesome (let's not forget that the arguably hottest scene of this story has never been shown) and where the male MC is Axel, and you get to choose if you cheat on Lena on top of the threesomes or not. And you get to choose as Lena whether you forgive Axel or break up with him....Or, as an act of contrition, ask him to share you with Jeremy....
 

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As someone who reads romance books for fun, you're mostly right, but an MMC can definitely start out like Wade, usually because something bad happened to him in the past. But by the end, he almost always changes, either to win the love of the FMC or because she inspires him to become a better version of himself.

Archetypes like Axel and Seymour tend to show up more often in erotica than in traditional romance. In romance, there are plenty of brooding bad boys, but not outright pieces of shit like Axel or Seymour. Or maybe I just avoid books that feature guys like that, so I don’t come across them often, I don’t know.
I can confirm this! Axel and Seymour are usually toxic possessive type of men in women's erotica. Like you are mine whether you want it or not. Bad boys are not really bad boys when it's pure romance because they are often tsundere and then warm up to FMC.
 
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and the "i can fix him" material
Oh. I thought the loser type who gets the girl at the end was more or less a man's fantasy. I guess Wade being a former 'hot' guy does play into that.

In comparison, Ian is too self-sufficient emotionally and doesn't really need someone else to move him toward his goals so the girl doesn't get to be the driving force toward his betterment.

Speaking of Axel "letting" his gf having male friends...
In my country, women widely prefer the jealous/possessive type and will give men shit for being too comfortable and nonchalant. They generally see it as spineless behavior.
 

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In my country, women widely prefer the jealous/possessive type and will give men shit for being too comfortable and nonchalant. They generally see it as spineless behavior.
And here we see one big problem with relationships between men and women. Why do they prefer as...? Being deeply relaxed and spineless is very different. I´m being chilled normally does not take away my ability to kick someones ass when it is needed! You do not want to make a Taurus angry, believe me, you don´t. Thinking being relaxed is spineless, I can show you the error quite convincingly.
 
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Since Seymour turned out to be quite vanilla, I think he's perfect to be paypig in his findom roleplay with Lena. :love:
Ew. :HideThePain:
And here we see one big problem with relationships between men and women. Why do they prefer as...? Being deeply relaxed and spineless is very different. I´m being chilled normally does not take away my ability to kick someones ass when it is needed!
Displays of passion I guess. I recall a convo I've had with my old circle where a guy who was notoriously nonchalant was called the "perfect roommate". You could live with him for years and not notice he's there.
 

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And here we see one big problem with relationships between men and women. Why do they prefer as...? Being deeply relaxed and spineless is very different. I´m being chilled normally does not take away my ability to kick someones ass when it is needed! You do not want to make a Taurus angry, believe me, you don´t. Thinking being relaxed is spineless, I can show you the error quite convincingly.
Taurus here. I wonder what astrology signs are ORS characters. :unsure:
 
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Displays of passion I guess. I recall a convo I've had with my old circle where a guy who was notoriously nonchalant was called the "perfect roommate". You could live with him for years and not notice he's there.
Well, that case might have been a person a bit too relaxed. But prefering an obnoxious a..., going off like a steam whistle at the smallest trigger, is obviously sooo much better. (Sarcasm mode off)
Beina a Taurus myself, most of us come with deeply relaxed as a standard mode, do not make the mistake to take us for spineless! People who do so, are totally surprised when they see that spineless is very far away from what a Taurus is. Our "displays of passion" are truly memorable, good or bad. Do not take nice, relaxed, friendly to nearly everyone as spineless, when push comes to shove we are there unfailingly.
 
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