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I see the point you make, but that does not invalidate my observation that a non-small part of the player base obviously, going by their laments, expected a definite villian just missing the Mhuhahah of a mad scientist trope.
Bro it ain't that deep. People were introduced to a character with weight. He moves, the ground fucking shakes. He had gravitas. It was nice. That's what they wanted. That shit got torn down real quick and turns out Seymour likes being called a good boy. They're disappointed. The end.
And this is where you erred. I knew the moment I saw Seymour that on the paths you have good relations with him he would not be such a villain or a villain at all. I take it you do not know the person his image is partly based on? No Spainard outside extremist circles, would depict a complete villain with his likeness.
I think EK is frustrated with politics since Seymour and the two mayor candidates are clearly based on existing politicians and the political plotlines in game (had a laugh seeing Seymour and his candidate being buddies, considering how their real life variants "like" each other), but she would not make them complete as..., because they are recognisable to Spanish and some other European people.
Bro I really don't have the energy to talk too much about this nonsense anymore. You're extrapolating nonstop and it's kinda tiring.

In what world you live in where someone hops in, fucks with your livelihood, blackmails business partners and makes sure all paths lead to him and you don't consider that 'villain'?

As for resemblance with real life politicians... Ian's dad is fucking Jordan Peterson. His striking coach is Jose Aldo. If Eva was french she woulda picked Macron, Sarkozy, Melenchon or Holland to trace her characters. It's not proof of anything.

Anyway. I'm out.
 

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IlikebeingaDIK arguing with Turret is pointless. He appears in this thread from time to time, and spew the same moronic talking points about how Seymour is really nice guy, Emma is communist because she wants to fight the rich etc.
In my experience, commie girls aren't into anal.

So, not a commie.

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Bro it ain't that deep. People were introduced to a character with weight. He moves, the ground fucking shakes. He had gravitas. It was nice. That's what they wanted. That shit got torn down real quick and turns out Seymour likes being called a good boy. They're disappointed. The end.

Bro I really don't have the energy to talk too much about this nonsense anymore. You're extrapolating nonstop and it's kinda tiring.
In what world you live in where someone hops in, fucks with your livelihood, blackmails business partners and makes sure all paths lead to him and you don't consider that 'villain'?

As for resemblance with real life politicians... Ian's dad is fucking Jordan Peterson. His striking coach is Jose Aldo. If Eva was french she woulda picked Macron, Sarkozy, Melenchon or Holland to trace her characters. It's not proof of anything.

Anyway. I'm out.
Hi again!
I stated that there are paths where Seymour is clearly a villain, but there are also paths where it does not happen like this, so he is not a "full" villain in these paths. even no villain at all. It is definitely faulty logic to point to a path with a villainous Seymour, when in another path we can go Seymour does not do the deeds of the one in the villainous path. In that version of ORS Seymour is a grey character, not a villain since he simply does not do the things the other Seymour did.

As for the politicians: Eva could have also traced political characters from sport on movie stars, but she chose politicians. So it is a bit more than just taking some real life guys/girls.

IlikebeingaDIK arguing with Turret is pointless. He appears in this thread from time to time, and spew the same moronic talking points about how Seymour is really nice guy, Emma is communist because she wants to fight the rich etc.
Considering your tone, choice of words and that you try to put words in my mouth I never said, I do not expect you to be a world class dicussion guy, so it might be moronic;) to hope for some meaty arguments instead of insults, but whatever...
Just for the record, I want to discuss many points in the game, but so far most arguments I got are quite wanting.
 
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Hi again!
I stated that there are paths where Seymour is clearly a villain, but there are also paths where it does not happen like this, so he is not a "full" villain in these paths.

As for the politicians: Eva could have also traced political characters from sport on movie stars, but she chose politicians. So it is a bit more than just taking some real life guys/girls.

Considering your tone, choice of words and that you try to put words in my mouth I never said I do not expect you to be a world class dicussion guy, so it might be moronic;) to hope for some meaty arguments instead of insults, but whatever...
Just for the record, I want to discuss many points in the game, but so far most arguments I got are quite wanting.
Y'all acting like this is some highly nuanced game that will make you think, but its just a higher production eroge.

Probably one of few that can match Japanese eroge in terms of quality and a few and far titles in between.
 

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Y'all acting like this is some highly nuanced game that will make you think, but its just a higher production eroge.

Probably one of few that can match Japanese eroge in terms of quality and a few and far titles in between.
It's literally a Western version of a Hentai VN. It even has the hand drawn models with finite expressions, unlike your typical RenPy games with inconsistent and different expressions on faces.
 
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