dantder

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Respectfully I feel you are being particularly unfair in this instance.

- In the conversations with Lena it appears clearly that there was a woman, the project of a family and maybe a baby a long time ago, according to Seymour.

- Seymour hints on several occasions that there is a secret reason why he is so obsessed with Lena.

- Lena's Dad is only her stepdad, her father abandoned when she was very young.

- When Lena meets Seymour, she does think he looks particularly familiar, and she does not know why.

As for the "patreon point", everyone seems to forget that a lot of facts that look canon in this game, are actually not. It might well be the case here.

Just as, according to your choices, Jess might be with Dave, with Ash, or with no-one, maybe we will come to realize that, yes indeed, if Lena does sleep with Seymour then he is not her dad, but that if she does not, then yes he is. Patreon problem solved.

I have the same pet theory about Mike's girlfriend for example. It would certainly not surprise me that Mike's girlfriend is Gillian only in the case of specific choices you've made, and that with other choices it will not be her.
I don't think this would be a feasible solution though. Jess is a cameo character, while Seymour and Lena are the vital to the plot, the amount of work required to create the parallel branches in which there's a biological relation or not is too prohibitive to be on the table.
I personally think if it is the case that Seymour is Lena's father it wouldn't be confirmed, merely suggested, and left for the players to wonder the fucked-up-ness of it all.
 
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Is it possible to be in a three way relettionships with Holly, ian and lena but Holly could sleep with Mark or any other guy, is that possible?
I believe that the only requirements for the Holly Trinity route are being in the Ian-Holly or Ian-Lena romances and consistently choosing to pursue Holly as Lena. I don't think that there are any 'holly route' related choices the night that she meets Mark in the club so it might be fine. But it's a really tight rope to balance, seeing as going that way might lock her in the corrupted route if you don't pick all the right choices.
 

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Between tightening restrictions on patreon and steam, public attitudes towards this kind of content, as well as the total lack of it so far in ORS anyway, the general assumption is that the game won't have incest content at all. If you try to discuss the topic on the official discord for ORS, you'll be warned by the moderators with half-sarcastic replies telling you there was no incest in GGGB and there won't be any in ORS either.

Since Lena and Seymour can fuck, any family ties would turn his conent into incest content, for that reason I would assume that they aren't related.
Yeah but idk how many times I saw posts of asking for incest patch for other games. Some Devs refused because not only characters aren't related hence rewrite, they didn't want to include incest in the story. That didn't stopped some players to complain not respecting Devs.
 

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Is it possible to be in a three way relettionships with Holly, ian and lena but Holly could sleep with Mark or any other guy, is that possible?
IIRC no -- for Holly to hook up with other people she needs to either be fed to Ivy which closes the trinity path, or she has to be largely ignored by both Ian and Lena, which makes her go for Clark.
 
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ffive

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Respectfully I feel you are being particularly unfair in this instance.
I really don't think so -- there's nothing unfair in not putting much stock in the train of thought that goes "Lena has step-dad therefore her real dad could be Seymour because he seems obsessed with her and he's allegedly had sex with a woman in the past".

Ironically, i do find the Mike/Gillian theory more believable (to the point it has occurred to me as possibility without reading about it first) but that is because it has more elements where what we hear from Gillian and Mike about their respective partners fits together, and there's much tighter match in presented timeline than just a vague "there used to be a woman".
 
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Any other games like this in regards of many playthroughs? Not from the same Dev, I played gggb
I just played Black Incense which seems incredibly promising - it's on its first release but its a massive one and if the game continues like that could be as good as Our Red String/GGGB or better. I also really like Seeds of Chaos if you want something well established but people have pretty mixed views about it so maybe read up about it first before taking the plunge
 
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Any other games like this in regards of many playthroughs? Not from the same Dev, I played gggb
Not exactly like this (the double protagonist thing is pretty rare) but if what you want is a mess web of multiple possible relationships that can blow up in your face, and will require at least a handful playthroughs to see all possible permutations, then you might want to have a look at Intertwined. If you haven't yet already.
 
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I really don't think so -- there's nothing unfair in not putting much stock in the train of thought that goes "Lena has step-dad therefore her real dad could be Seymour because he seems obsessed with her and he's allegedly had sex with a woman in the past".

Ironically, i do find the Mike/Gillian theory more believable (to the point it has occurred to me as possibility without reading about it first) but that is because it has more elements where what we hear from Gillian and Mike about their respective partners fits together, and there's much tighter match in presented timeline than just a vague "there used to be a woman".
Oh come on ffive this goes far beyond "there used to be a woman" and you know the game too well to ignore it.
 

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I don't think this would be a feasible solution though. Jess is a cameo character, while Seymour and Lena are the vital to the plot, the amount of work required to create the parallel branches in which there's a biological relation or not is too prohibitive to be on the table.
I personally think if it is the case that Seymour is Lena's father it wouldn't be confirmed, merely suggested, and left for the players to wonder the fucked-up-ness of it all.
In my main playthrough Lena bides Seymour to respectuflly go and fuck himself, so I will never know will I.

That said, having saved a whole new playthru to play Seymour's update in Rome - my favourite city in the universe - seriously - and see the poor horseshit EK had in store, I just think about the fukin waste of time. That was honestly not worth EK's standards. She should be ashamed of herself.
 
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What do I have to do to have a Lena + Holly + Ian scene? And what can't I do to still have that scene? Can Lena be slutty?
I had it in my route, Ian has being in a relationship with Lena and Lena has a lesbian-like relationship with Holly (sex with her previously).
 

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I really don't think so -- there's nothing unfair in not putting much stock in the train of thought that goes "Lena has step-dad therefore her real dad could be Seymour because he seems obsessed with her and he's allegedly had sex with a woman in the past".

Ironically, i do find the Mike/Gillian theory more believable (to the point it has occurred to me as possibility without reading about it first) but that is because it has more elements where what we hear from Gillian and Mike about their respective partners fits together, and there's much tighter match in presented timeline than just a vague "there used to be a woman".
Eva said at the very beginning of this game, before she even dropped it, that this game will not have incest. 0% chance. maybe you didn't know but now you do.
 

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Any other games like this in regards of many playthroughs? Not from the same Dev, I played gggb
I always used to respond to your question with the same reply: no porn game comes anyway close to the quality of Eva Kiss' work. But no longer, and I strongly advise everyone to pay attention:

There is a brand new game on this forum, from a brand new developer who is a self-confessed EK admirer, Himeros Studios, which is called "Black Incense".

We are just at prologue stage, and you already have more branches than GGGB + ORS combined. The writing is high, high quality. The design is AI generated but from the highest quality too.

Add to this that, conversely to Eva Kiss, this guy:

- does not hate pirate players like our good selves at all, on the contrary interacts constantly with us directly on his thread on this forum
- Communicates constantly and will be keeping a journal on the development and his vision
- Intends to release an update every month,

=> this dude might soon replace Eva Kiss as my favourite developer.
 
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