VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[GibboBtw]

AHahaha, the classic "fucked the lesbian to straight or BI". It's just a power fantasy that most dweebs like, I kid you not, there are dumbasses that really think that they can flip the orientation by a good dicking IRL.

Correct, locked in FMCs who are only lesbian or straight are rare.

That is true. But It's also just the modern thing we're getting in a lot of games nowadays. That of making the LIs "Playersexual" So nobody misses out on them, and everybody can enjoy them. It does make them feel kinda weak, and less 'real' IMO. But that's whatever.

Now granted, it mainly applies to women only, in AVNs. As the main playerbase is hetero-men. And I can't think of many hetero men who don't enjoy seeing women on women action. However, if there is one thing that displeases hetero men, and could cause a lot of complaining. It's having gay scenes "forced" on them...

And all you have to do to see proof of that, is look at a certain optional scene that was added to this very game in the last update. That had a lot of them in open hysteria in this thread. Acting as if they were tied to their chairs, had their eyes taped open, and were forced to watch that scene on repeat...

Poor dudes...

 

[Saerwen]

That is true. But It's also just the modern thing we're getting in a lot of games nowadays. That of making the LIs "Playersexual" So nobody misses out on them, and everybody can enjoy them. It does make them feel kinda weak, and less 'real' IMO. But that's whatever.

Now granted, it mainly applies to women only, in AVNs. As the main playerbase is hetero-men. And I can't think of many hetero men who don't enjoy seeing women on women action. However, if there is one thing that displeases hetero men, and could cause a lot of complaining. It's having gay scenes "forced" on them...

And all you have to do to see proof of that, is look at a certain optional scene that was added to this very game in the last update. That had a lot of them in open hysteria in this thread. Acting as if they were tied to their chairs, had their eyes taped open, and were forced to watch that scene on repeat...

Poor dudes...

Oh boy, you obviously missed A LOT complaints about lesbian "predators" who turn MCs harem women into lesbians in male protagonist games hence it's cucking. There is a group that as of recently started harassing Devs and players on itch.io about lesbian scenes now in FMC games. Who are those who complain? BBC worshippers and NTR addicts.

 

[BlandChili]

oh trust me i need this as well i just don't see it happening atm tho it'd be even hotter as a threesome with ian and them competing

Disagree, but I'm a filthy female-preferring bisexual, so that's just me.
I want Lena and Cindy to make furious passionate love, regardless of whether this be as a good solid hatefuck or as rivals-turned-lovers~

That is true. But It's also just the modern thing we're getting in a lot of games nowadays. That of making the LIs "Playersexual" So nobody misses out on them, and everybody can enjoy them. It does make them feel kinda weak, and less 'real' IMO. But that's whatever.

Now granted, it mainly applies to women only, in AVNs. As the main playerbase is hetero-men. And I can't think of many hetero men who don't enjoy seeing women on women action. However, if there is one thing that displeases hetero men, and could cause a lot of complaining. It's having gay scenes "forced" on them...

I don't really give a fig for the political optics here to be honest. This is a porn game, Lena is hot, Cindy is hot. Lena is my protagonist so I want her to fuck the other hot girl because lesbian content is where my preference lies.
I happen to think that they could potentiall have an interesting dynamic, but it's up to Eva to actually make it happen.

 

[GibboBtw]

Oh boy, you obviously missed A LOT complaints about lesbian "predators" who turn MCs harem women into lesbians in male protagonist games. There is a group that as of recently started harassing Devs and players on itch.io about lesbian scenes now in FMC games.

Oh no they exist as well obviously. Long Road Home is a good example of a thread that has dudes like that showing up every now and again to complain about the women being more into each other, and just generally being insecure about losing them as the MC. You're always going to have stuff like that. But I just view them as an even lesser minority, that isn't worth paying attention to.

As for the dudes complaining about lesbian scenes in FMC games. It's probably just those kind of dudes that only play those "typical" FMC games, of them just becoming mind broken whores. And they want/demand it in all of them. Again, just an annoying minority that can be muted and ignored. So not worth any attention IMO.

I don't really give a fig for the political optics here to be honest. This is a porn game, Lena is hot, Cindy is hot. Lena is my protagonist so I want her to fuck the other hot girl because lesbian content is where my preference lies.
I happen to think that they could potentiall have an interesting dynamic, but it's up to Eva to actually make it happen.

Yeah, that's all well, good and all. But it would still have to make sense in the story I think. And that one would take some work, and a good bit of set up IMO, to ever make a lesbian scene of them, make any sense. As they're quite opposed to each other in the majority of runs/situations. It might be doable sure. But it would need a good bit of set up, that I just don't see EK investing time in personally.

 

[BlandChili]

Yeah, that's all well, good and all. But it would still have to make sense in the story I think. And that one would take some work, and a good bit of set up IMO, to ever make a lesbian scene of them, make any sense. As they're quite opposed to each other in the majority of runs/situations. It might be doable sure. But it would need a good bit of set up, that I just don't see EK investing time in personally.

Right, and it's not unfair to point out that the game is very late in development now, so the time might have passed regardless.

That said I still think it could work, if Eva decided to spend the time to make it happen. She probably won't, but I'll keep hoping~

 

[GibboBtw]

Right, and it's not unfair to point out that the game is very late in development now, so the time might have passed regardless.

That said I still think it could work, if Eva decided to spend the time to make it happen. She probably won't, but I'll keep hoping~

Ah, I think we all have a scenario or two that we hope we're going to get, but we're probably not. Mine being a little IanXLenaXAlison scenario.

But realistically, I think Alison seems like the type of lady who would be VERY, opposed to sharing 'her' man with another girl. And I think that would apply DOUBLE if it were Lena...

But hey, I hope you get yours, just like I get mine.

 

[BlandChili]

Ah, I think we all have a scenario or two that we hope we're going to get, but we're probably not. Mine being a little IanXLenaXAlison scenario.

But realistically, I think Alison seems like the type of lady who would be VERY, opposed to sharing 'her' man with another girl. And I think that would apply DOUBLE if it were Lena...

Romanced Alison I would agree, but I think bimbo Alison could at least be persuaded to experiment. If nothing else she could be a candidate for ffmm foursome or gangbangs involving other women. But I think that sort of development will show itself next update, if it ever happens.
If bimbo Alison turns up at the party I could see things with her becoming interesting.

 

[varpep]

That is true. But It's also just the modern thing we're getting in a lot of games nowadays. That of making the LIs "Playersexual" So nobody misses out on them, and everybody can enjoy them. It does make them feel kinda weak, and less 'real' IMO. But that's whatever.

Yeah I felt this in Cyberpunk when I couldn't romance Judy as male V. I had to "settle" for Panam.

 

[Blurpee69]

BlandChili

Like you said, it's up to EK to actually move forward with it. But I believe that with sexual awakening being and aspect of of Ian and Cindy's relationship (cumplay, blowjobs, and anal) there is a world in which Ian could maybe convince Cindy of a threesome. That's the closest I think Cindy will get to having a sexual relationship with another woman however, but hey the groundwork is actually there if EK decides on pulling the trigger.

Yeah I felt this in Cyberpunk when I couldn't romance Judy as male V. I had to "settle" for Panam.

It's cool, my female V had to settle for Judy since Panam wasn't a romance option.

 

[GibboBtw]

Romanced Alison I would agree, but I think bimbo Alison could at least be persuaded to experiment. If nothing else she could be a candidate for ffmm foursome or gangbangs involving other women. But I think that sort of development will show itself next update, if it ever happens.
If bimbo Alison turns up at the party I could see things with her becoming interesting.

Maybe. But I just feel like the main drive of her bimbofcation thing she's got going on. Is that she feels rather insecure, and has less to offer when compared to the other women she sees as her 'competition'. I mean just look how she reacts to any mention of Lena at any point with Ian. And then if you pick Emma over her at the club as a couple of examples. It takes a while in that case. But she admits she was RATHER JEALOUS, that Ian was picking another girl over her, when she was there and willing.

I just don't see how she would ever mentally be okay with being in a sexual scenario with another girl. She would be hella insecure over the other girl upstaging her, in front of Ian/Whatever Man. But I'm still hoping EK finds a way for it to make sense, and also happen.

 

[Saerwen]

Yeah I felt this in Cyberpunk when I couldn't romance Judy as male V. I had to "settle" for Panam.

For straight female V romance was a huge disappointment.

 

[robin312]

Yeah I felt this in Cyberpunk when I couldn't romance Judy as male V. I had to "settle" for Panam.

Yep, Panam is great
It's pity through that we can't romance Judy

 

[BlandChili]

Like you said, it's up to EK to actually move forward with it. But I believe that with sexual awakening being and aspect of of Ian and Cindy's relationship (cumplay, blowjobs, and anal) there is a world in which Ian could maybe convince Cindy of a threesome. That's the closest I think Cindy will get to having a sexual relationship with another woman however, but hey the groundwork is actually there if EK decides on pulling the trigger.

Ideally no potential lesbian pairings require the direct participation of a male character to achieve. Maybe that's not achievable for Cindy, but that's a basis I think Eva is aware of at least when she does want a option to be a "lesbian" option as opposed to a "bisexual" one.

Maybe. But I just feel like the main drive of her bimbofcation thing she's got going on. Is that she feels rather insecure, and has less to offer when compared to the other women she sees as her 'competition'. I mean just look how she reacts to any mention of Lena at any point with Ian. And then if you pick Emma over her at the club as a couple of examples. It takes a while in that case. But she admits she was RATHER JEALOUS, that Ian was picking another girl over her, when she was there and willing.

I just don't see how she would ever mentally be okay with being in a sexual scenario with another girl. She would be hella insecure over the other girl upstaging her, in front of Ian/Whatever Man. But I'm still hoping EK finds a way for it to make sense, and also happen.

Fair points. I don't think it has to be any more complicated than "Ian wants it" or "Ian desires it" Alison has made such conclusions before.

 

[varpep]

For straight female V romance was a huge disappointment.

Yeah River is not bad but yeah disappointing. Kerry though is awesome and is also a GILF. Too bad he's gay though. All in all what's truly disappointing is the amount of LI in the game.

 

[SearingFive]

Yeah I felt this in Cyberpunk when I couldn't romance Judy as male V. I had to "settle" for Panam.

Panam was bae

 

[Urist McHorny]

Yeah River is not bad but yeah disappointing. Kerry though is awesome and is also a GILF. Too bad he's gay though. All in all what's truly disappointing is the amount of LI in the game.

The fact you can't romance corpo mommy is the worst part

 

[Blurpee69]

Ideally no potential lesbian pairings require the direct participation of a male character to achieve. Maybe that's not achievable for Cindy, but that's a basis I think Eva is aware of at least when she does want a option to be a "lesbian" option as opposed to a "bisexual" one.

Yeah, I get that. I just don't think that Cindy has been set up that way as a character, unfortunately for you.

 

[BlandChili]

Yeah, I get that. I just don't think that Cindy has been set up that way as a character, unfortunately for you.

She hasn't really. At most she's got a path that is open so that it could turn that way, so far though nothing implies that it actually will.

 

[dolfe67]

Yeah River is not bad but yeah disappointing. Kerry though is awesome and is also a GILF. Too bad he's gay though. All in all what's truly disappointing is the amount of LI in the game.

Yeah not many romances, just one per sexuality IIRC (hetero male, hetero female, gay male and gay female)

 

[BGINaN]

Disagree, but I'm a filthy female-preferring bisexual, so that's just me.
I want Lena and Cindy to make furious passionate love, regardless of whether this be as a good solid hatefuck or as rivals-turned-lovers~

I don't really give a fig for the political optics here to be honest. This is a porn game, Lena is hot, Cindy is hot. Lena is my protagonist so I want her to fuck the other hot girl because lesbian content is where my preference lies.
I happen to think that they could potentiall have an interesting dynamic, but it's up to Eva to actually make it happen.

oh i get you and i would not say no to your scenarios as well we all win in the end if that comes to pass and it can make narrative sense as well after Cindy comes back she can be a different person and be more amicable towards lena and ask for some hands on help