mehGusta

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I hope there will be more focus on Lena teasing Ian when there's finally cucking/sharing during their first FMM threesome.
i would agree with you, but so far evakiss has shown with GGGB and what the cuck route for ian currently looks like, that she immediately goes for the overkill with humiliation and denial. not that this might be appealing to some, but to me it feels like evakiss is either not very invested in those routes in general or lacks nuance.

i mean in an eventual jeremy threesome its going to be about a lame dick measuring contest instead of a feedback loop of lena enjoying that ian is enjoying that lena is enjoying herself. or hell even jeremy and ian getting into a "bro"-ing fit of jeremy giving high fives to ian for his amazing catch of a girlfriend.
what i guess i'm trying to say is that evakiss thus far has failed to make a cuck relationship feel like they love each other.

but eh, we will see.
 

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The only route that interests me is the one where the protagonist gets revenge on the betrayals of that bitchy waitress who pretended to be a good girl and started sleeping around.

He has to become the champion of the fights, get rich, and humiliate her, but I highly doubt the developer will do that.
 
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I can't believe that the dev of one AI game have over 8,000 members and earning that much money while Eva have just over 2,000 members on Patreon but doesn't say how much money she's earning. I guess wrecking marriages even in game is the biggest money maker. o_O
 

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I can't believe that the dev of one AI game have over 8,000 members and earning that much money while Eva have just over 2,000 members on Patreon but doesn't say how much money she's earning. I guess wrecking marriages even in game is the biggest money maker. o_O
8k is pretty crazy in general. I mean, . Unless you mean 8k in general, including free members?
 
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I believe she was talking about the first time you meet Billy in the club.
Even in that case it is not so simple: if you take the drug, then yes indeed you will not get the option "sounds too good to be true", that can bring you a wits point. However, you can still reply "can you afford all that" instead of "I like it too". Nevertheless, yes indeed you will automatically agree to join.
 
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I love how this thread never runs out of ideas for discussion.
a lively thread.
exactly true, I visit this thread every few weeks/month
One time they were talking about Ian vs Axel and whatnot, one time for irl relationship philosophical advices and experiences few days ago were arguing over the characters actions and complains about the game
and now its about the girls
 

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I can't believe that the dev of one AI game have over 8,000 members and earning that much money while Eva have just over 2,000 members on Patreon but doesn't say how much money she's earning. I guess wrecking marriages even in game is the biggest money maker. o_O
8K paying members or total members, including paying and non-paying? Some devs can show both.
 
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exactly true, I visit this thread every few weeks/month
One time they were talking about Ian vs Axel and whatnot, one time for irl relationship philosophical advices and experiences few days ago were arguing over the characters actions and complains about the game
and now its about the girls
its really entertaining, i agree xd.
 

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Yup, it's all about Ian getting the dom stats along the way. Absolutely correct, major Lena subby behavior is only unlocked after her punishment. The non - punishment subby route is a bit muted.
So to sum it up, she need to cheat to be the "perfect" sub or else she jut gets some light sub characteristics?

If so, would you mind telling me, where or with whom she needs to cheat so i know for what i have to watch out?

Thx in advance!
 

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8k is pretty crazy in general. I mean, . Unless you mean 8k in general, including free members?
Regardless, a lot of people seem to be into that sort of thing, just check the latest updates page and you'll find that it's almost always flooded with ntr/cheating/swinging games. Game devs are not stupid, if everyone and their mother is making games focused on a specific genre it means there's a high demand for it, Before it was incest games taking the hot spot, people were getting crazy over them.
I wonder what's next :unsure:
So to sum it up, she need to cheat to be the "perfect" sub or else she jut gets some light sub characteristics?

If so, would you mind telling me, where or with whom she needs to cheat so i know for what i have to watch out?

Thx in advance!
cheating is bad, don't do it :)
 
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So to sum it up, she need to cheat to be the "perfect" sub or else she jut gets some light sub characteristics?

If so, would you mind telling me, where or with whom she needs to cheat so i know for what i have to watch out?

Thx in advance!
Yeah, you need to make Lena cheat once. Just don't be a serial cheater.

What I did was make Lena cheat on Ian with Jack, stop Jack's path then and there, after the incident. Commit to the relationship seriously in EP12 in her bedroom.

From Ian's side, don't get aggressive. Tell her that you still love her, have a romantic kiss under the moon, get back to the room, punish Lena and during the scene when Lena asks "Do you really love me"?, say yes.

Congrats!!! She's now totally hooked on Ian. :cool:
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"I need to" only pops up when she's a sub to Ian.
 
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Hmmm, people thinking of an "open relationship" or cheating on her will be in a serious trouble. For all the skank vibes, she sure does has a boundary. Looks like, if she commits to the right person, she's not letting that person go.
 
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Hmmm, people thinking of an "open relationship" or cheating on her will be in a serious trouble. For all the skank vibes, she sure does has a boundary. Looks like, if she commits to the right person, she's not letting that person go.
Very pointless bark of her, considering that she doesn't get into relationships since she doesn't believe in the concept. Its how she justifies fucking taken guys.
 

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Very pointless bark of her, considering that she doesn't get into relationships since she doesn't believe in the concept. Its how she justifies fucking taken guys.
That's true! She says a lot but totally does the opposite. It would be funny to see her on the receiving end for once and feel it.
 

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egardless, a lot of people seem to be into that sort of thing, just check the latest updates page and you'll find that it's almost always flooded with ntr/cheating/swinging games. Game devs are not stupid, if everyone and their mother is making games focused on a specific genre it means there's a high demand for it, Before it was incest games taking the hot spot, people were getting crazy over them.
A large part of this isn't really "it's what people want specifically" but relative ease of developing a game with "mobile phone" front-end and AI graphics. Effectively, you reduce amount of work that's typically involved by half or so, which makes it a small wonder this is what people looking to make some quick buck flock to. Actual level of demand for NTR games is debatable, given how it's one of the most heated and openly hated tags on these forums.
 

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So to sum it up, she need to cheat to be the "perfect" sub or else she jut gets some light sub characteristics?
No, the dom/sub variable can be at the same level whether Lena cheats on Ian or not. Meaning you get the same "dominant" actions with her in the interactions, etc.

If Ian "punishes" Lena for cheating this creates not so much "perfect sub" but someone who gets borderline unhinged in her co-dependency. Unless that's what your idea of "perfect" sub is, ofc.
 

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No, the dom/sub variable can be at the same level whether Lena cheats on Ian or not. Meaning you get the same "dominant" actions with her in the interactions, etc.

If Ian "punishes" Lena for cheating this creates not so much "perfect sub" but someone who gets borderline unhinged in her co-dependency. Unless that's what your idea of "perfect" sub is, ofc.
Huh... I always remeber the pic of Lena and her ex, where she is on a leash or something and how she talks about beeing his sub. Where would you put that on the scale compared to these two "options" of her being a sub for Ian? I can't quite comprehend the differences yet. I want her as docile as possible bot not necessarily broken.
 

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Huh... I always remeber the pic of Lena and her ex, where she is on a leash or something and how she talks about beeing his sub. Where would you put that on the scale compared to these two "options" of her being a sub for Ian? I can't quite comprehend the differences yet. I want her as docile as possible bot not necessarily broken.
It's hard to say, because that co-dependency she can display seems to be something Lena has developed in her relationship with Axel. So that likely was a part of their relationship. But like i said, all her "normal" sub inclinations and options are gated with just the Ian's dom variable, so i think you'll probably be able to have a normal "perfect sub" relationship on faithful route. With the leash and stuff. For this matter, requiring Lena to be a cheater for that would be pretty bizarre and questionable decision on EK's part -- the leash thing seems to be something that's considered quite playful and little else, seeing how Lena introduces it early during her "games" with Louise.
 

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That's true! She says a lot but totally does the opposite. It would be funny to see her on the receiving end for once and feel it.
Damn, that would be PEAK nasty business though. Say, down the line when we finally get that proper IanXIvy relationship on the go, with them spending time together, and her ACTUALLY managing to fall for a guy, and showing some vulnerability.

Only for it to be possible to have her catch Ian and Lena smashing or something soon after...:oops:

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