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CoalPhelps
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How does the lack of decent relationship options turn a perspective from female to male?
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Only yesterday, I was telling my friend about this game. What impression it made and how I admire it's creator for high attention to details and rare these days high level of polish. And then... A remaster! Lol, what a coincidence 
Of course I started a new game at once. This time however I decided to split Ian and Lena, I think they will make better friends then a couple. Besides, my "real" desire is Emma...
Oh, and I hope there will be some way to get that bastard Seymour by his balls, this old fart is really pushing his luck...
Of course I started a new game at once. This time however I decided to split Ian and Lena, I think they will make better friends then a couple. Besides, my "real" desire is Emma...
Oh, and I hope there will be some way to get that bastard Seymour by his balls, this old fart is really pushing his luck...
BloodyMares
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Not really to make any kind of point here, but I find it interesting that it's always the guys (or people using male names for their identity), that can tell "for sure" that Eva is "actually" a man based on their writing, when the women, whether the female members on this forum or my personal friends, either don't care to "unmask" the author, or are certain that the story is written by a woman because they feel like it really understands them.
Regardless of whether Eva Kiss is a man or a woman or identifies as neither or both, I think it's impressive that female fans can actually be invested just as much in these stories and characters, and not feel like women are somehow misrepresented. And if they enjoy the experience, should we, men, tell women about the male gaze, or is it better to leave up to women to recognize female perspective and "call it out" whenever it doesn't feel genuine to them? There's a funny term related to all this that I learned from feminists called mansplaining.
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Idk if this is what you're looking for https://f95zone.to/threads/our-red-string-v0-9-remastered-final-eva-kiss.48813/post-8001762
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I mean if we look GGGB, theres incest content it with MC's Dad and Arthur with his daughter, so im not suprise if eva decide to include incest in ORS at some pointOh boy, wat if Seymour is Lena's dad.......
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It's a possibility, but because there is incest in the previous game doesn't mean there'll be incest in this one. Personally I would find a bit ridiculous if Seymour is her dad, what a cheap soap opera it would be
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It has become extremely fashionable to be offended on someone else's behalf, sadly.
Just the chapter 9 got remastered or the full game? Will I have to start a new save from 0 or just from chapter 9?
I tried to stay out of this discussion, but since it isn't going away, I'll just leave my 2 cents.
Why does it matter what gender Eva is? If she says she's a woman, why not just take it at face value and move on? It literally makes no difference on the outcome of the game. This is something that will never be resolved unless Eva takes the big step to reveal her identity. Would you want your identity made public and associated with a porn game? Plus, if she does verify with a photo, have fun dealing with the incels that will judge her appearance or call her a thot that wants to capitalize on being a female. In case someone wants to make the rebuttal that she is already capitalizing on her gender by claiming she is female, just think about what you are implying. Do you demand they lie about their gender and just claim to be male?
Like what the fuck? Neckbeards, man...
Why does it matter what gender Eva is? If she says she's a woman, why not just take it at face value and move on? It literally makes no difference on the outcome of the game. This is something that will never be resolved unless Eva takes the big step to reveal her identity. Would you want your identity made public and associated with a porn game? Plus, if she does verify with a photo, have fun dealing with the incels that will judge her appearance or call her a thot that wants to capitalize on being a female. In case someone wants to make the rebuttal that she is already capitalizing on her gender by claiming she is female, just think about what you are implying. Do you demand they lie about their gender and just claim to be male?
Like what the fuck? Neckbeards, man...
wow...
A heated discussion about the author gender IN 2022 !!!!
A heated discussion about the author gender IN 2022 !!!!
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Olsens.M
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As much as a women might enjoy a male gaze on such games, I have the right to prefer if the female protagonist could be delivered from a female gaze. Women, men, can enjoy anything they want. Me, as the individual person that I am, I'd love to see Lena's side through a female perspective. So even if Eva's gender isn't important, as much as I enjoyed both of her VNs overall, I'd rather to see a female perspective of things.
The reason why I decided to speak up is because it is the second game and both games I kind felt bad for the girl I had to play with. I believe the first game, my character end up with girls and the trans character. She didn't get far on the professional career she chose because she'd have to submit to some males wishes and demands. Since she didn't, she couldn't get too far.
And that is my criticism about the game. You don't have to agree, it will still be my opinion and something I'd like to see different, maybe on next games. A girl can date a thousand men, can work as a prostitute/escort if she chooses. Become a porn movie star. I'd just like to see the girl being on control without any male trying to end her career just because she won't become their sex toy and I'd like to see more nice options of men for her to choose, so she won't end up with some shitty guy, since I want Ian to have a relationship with Holly.
That is all, peace!
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These sorts of discussions are always very entertaining, whether it's 2022 or any other year
dolfe67
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And what if that female perspective is of a "slut"? Women too have fantasies of being sluts and dominated by "Chad"s.
Maybe they're victims of patriarchy, or maybe that's not what they really want but just what you want. In this kind of games played by I think 95% men, the audience of what you want is a minority. The demand is low, so is the supply.
And to this end, you resorted to accusing the dev of lying about their gender. Great job there, buddy. You are acting as if women are not capable of writing for a predominantly male audience. Maybe you are saying women must, or can only, write with a "Female gaze," whatever that entails? There is a genre that you are looking for. It's called Otome.
I feel like you are trying to be some kinda women's empowerment anti-patriarchy SJW but ironically have the most sexist take on things.
This game will not start. The loading screen comes up with the advancing bar on the bottom, but it always closes and will not bring up the menu. Anyone else having this problem? What to do?
matsuy
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So, literally about 5 seconds into the remaster... and I am already p*ssed:
Blazer, Perry, girls... what? Is this a completely different game now?
Code:
scene blazer_outside
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[Ian] "Perry and the girls will probably get mad at me for leaving like this... But I can't stand this anymore."
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matsuy
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Man, that whole prologue is a tonal mess...
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***Update 1:*** Furthermore, nothing (of significance) in chapter 1 was changed to accompany the remade prologue... so far this release feels like a significant disimprovement / injection of story inconsistencies.
***Update 2:*** Okay, in chapter 4 now ...the rewrite of the Stan's arc is adding something to the game -- however, still haven't seen anything which would require/justify a 6 month long overhaul process.
***Update 3:*** And there we (still) have it, in chapter 5 -- the phone conversation between Emma (e) and Ian (i):
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***Update 4:*** Chapter 7, and -- finally -- something new which on my scale counts as a (minor) improvement. -- But then again, shortly after, here we go: 1990's white-washed Billy enters the scene, "Yo-yo-yo! Wassup, my dude! Long time no see!" --
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