Krytax123

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Whew, I didn't realize I walked into a LoL lobby. Anyways, I was talking about the CEO screwing his "married" assistant. I now realize I shouldn't have expected people to pay attention to the story.
Wtf dude .. so the antagonistic guy who was a mass murderer suspecting (!) his secretery being married (which wasnt the case and they were even deeply in love with each other) - while everything of this happened before cj was even alive - made you drop the game and drop a comment here about it and calling it ntr .. and you expected to not be called out for being a weirdo?
 

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Oh, that's even more obscure. At least the Leah one traumatized her. The other was mentioned mostly in passing by someone who's greatest accomplishment was to turn a whole planet into eternally suffering monstrosities

The tags exist to describe the game in reference to the protagonist/player. So saying that the game doesn't have NTR/Cheating is correct. What you are saying is "I need to point out the some minor detail the game has isn't to my liking, so I'm dropping it".

Your post is like arguing that a game has violence and gore because it has a scene about a teacher, teaching medieval history to students, and explaining why battlewounds were a death sentence.

There is no one who will take you seriously.
 
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Whew, I didn't realize I walked into a LoL lobby. Anyways, I was talking about the CEO screwing his "married" assistant. I now realize I shouldn't have expected people to pay attention to the story.
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Kei never even told him she was married, you're mad about a dumbie not bothering to ask and making an assumption.
 
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Whew, I didn't realize I walked into a LoL lobby. Anyways, I was talking about the CEO screwing his "married" assistant. I now realize I shouldn't have expected people to pay attention to the story.
Man, someone (probably your dad) fucked your mom. You've been NTRed already.
It's like... Original NTR:WeSmart:
 

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Whew, I didn't realize I walked into a LoL lobby. Anyways, I was talking about the CEO screwing his "married" assistant. I now realize I shouldn't have expected people to pay attention to the story.
You know he's uhh...the bad guy, right? :Kappa:
 
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A few theorys/questions for you guys I’m kinda wondering about:

the „different young cj“ who talked to misaki/keiran on the other side is the same entity(?) who talked to victorias mother and made her sacrifice herself for Vic’s wellbeing.

and I guess it’s the same one who stops CJ‘s mom from burning her house down.

is he CJs „Dad“ too? And what is he? Ruriko said he’s not a spirit and instead something starting with the letter „C“

is he the CJ we see in the prologue? (I’m kinda sure it’s the past and not the future)

he seems to be on the other side yet is able to influence the real world to a certain extent

and he seems to be the one trying to keep everything in motion but isn’t really able to kerp

And what about the coinface-guy or whatever it is, is it the same being or something different?
 

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I think this is the only sensible response I've seen so far. The other responders seem to have a 2 line attention span.

To address the points I've quoted, I never said anything about hating the grandpa. He is despicable, but everyone already knows that. There's no need for me to mention it.

My dislike for NTR is from feeling sorry for the husband. The other commenters missed my point about how the player isn't told until hours later in gameplay.

This leads into my response into your second point: just because the MC isn't the one being cheated on, doesn't mean it suddenly doesn't matter. I commented on this game because the developer note (not the genre tag) is devoted almost entirely to emphasizing there's no ntr. A more apt analogy would be if a restaurant assured a customer that there would be no nuts in their meal, then used peanut oil to cook it.
I think you need help.
 

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because the developer note (not the genre tag) is devoted almost entirely to emphasizing there's no ntr. A more apt analogy would be if a restaurant assured a customer that there would be no nuts in their meal, then used peanut oil to cook it.
The developer note is written as such because there is no NTR in Out of Touch, to quote
There is no cheating. There is no stealing. There is no betrayal. There are no other dicks in any LI other than the MC's.
and that is true for the LI's in OoT.
You can have whatever special and unique definition you want in your head but you cannot expect others to abide by it.
A more apt analogy would be that the restaurant assured a customer that there would be no nuts in their meal, then the customer got mad because there was a doughnut for desert.
 

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A few theorys/questions for you guys I’m kinda wondering about:

the „different young cj“ who talked to misaki/keiran on the other side is the same entity(?) who talked to victorias mother and made her sacrifice herself for Vic’s wellbeing.

and I guess it’s the same one who stops CJ‘s mom from burning her house down.

is he CJs „Dad“ too? And what is he? Ruriko said he’s not a spirit and instead something starting with the letter „C“

is he the CJ we see in the prologue? (I’m kinda sure it’s the past and not the future)

he seems to be on the other side yet is able to influence the real world to a certain extent

and he seems to be the one trying to keep everything in motion but isn’t really able to kerp

And what about the coinface-guy or whatever it is, is it the same being or something different?
In my opinion...
The prologue is the past, but it'll be closely mirrored in the future.
Baby CJ is an enigma, but I toy with the fan theory that he's the parts of CJ that his Father lanced off of him in the prologue. The emotions "he wouldn't need anymore".
By Coin-face I'm assuming you're talking about Anon, he's the dev :Kappa:.
 

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I think this is the only sensible response I've seen so far. The other responders seem to have a 2 line attention span.

To address the points I've quoted, I never said anything about hating the grandpa. He is despicable, but everyone already knows that. There's no need for me to mention it.

My dislike for NTR is from feeling sorry for the husband. The other commenters missed my point about how the player isn't told until hours later in gameplay.

This leads into my response into your second point: just because the MC isn't the one being cheated on, doesn't mean it suddenly doesn't matter. I commented on this game because the developer note (not the genre tag) is devoted almost entirely to emphasizing there's no ntr. A more apt analogy would be if a restaurant assured a customer that there would be no nuts in their meal, then used peanut oil to cook it.
Don’t you get how stupid that sounds?

The guy kills a whole city and you aren’t able to continue reading the story because he fucked a woman he loved and you felt too sorry for her nonexistent husband.

maybe he should have killed all males in kei’s hometown too, just to be sure to not hurt your sensitive feelings
 

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In my opinion...
The prologue is the past, but it'll be closely mirrored in the future.
Baby CJ is an enigma, but I toy with the fan theory that he's the parts of CJ that his Father lanced off of him in the prologue. The emotions "he wouldn't need anymore".
By Coin-face I'm assuming you're talking about Anon, he's the dev :Kappa:.
oh did anon‘s name pointed out at some point or did I just missed the hints? I really struggle to explain better who I’m talking about, the bottle-cap face guy lmao

about the prologue: I agree and this time Jamie will be around

about baby cj: he appeared way earlier than CJ being lanced and seems too knowledgeable (for example cro being good deep inside or how to fix Vic) which seems to make it unlikely but who knows, the flow of time is different there and it could probably somehow be possible

I though about him being something like hayato/mizue, maybe watching all of cjs reincarnations like mizue watched hayato and jamie
 

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oh did anon‘s name pointed out at some point or did I just missed the hints? I really struggle to explain better who I’m talking about, the bottle-cap face guy lmao

about the prologue: I agree and this time Jamie will be around

about baby cj: he appeared way earlier than CJ being lanced and seems too knowledgeable (for example cro being good deep inside or how to fix Vic) which seems to make it unlikely but who knows, the flow of time is different there and it could probably somehow be possible

I though about him being something like hayato/mizue, maybe watching all of cjs reincarnations like mizue watched hayato and jamie
Snow1_025.jpg This is Anon, you can tell by the name tag. If you mean someone else them I'm lost.
The causality of time is hardly stable in OoT, Mizzie is a perfect example of that.
 

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View attachment 2943484 This is Anon, you can tell by the name tag. If you mean someone else them I'm lost.
The causality of time is hardly stable in OoT, Mizzie is a perfect example of that.
Haha ok, i was talking about him indeed, never noticed the tag.

I agree about the time part but the baby CJ doesn’t feel like an embodiment of cowardice, timidity and so on at all. More like a wise/guiding entity.

thanks for the input!
 

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First of all, hello everyone!

I'm a big fan of the game and the thing I like the most is the soundtrack. I noticed there's a playlist with the soundtrack but 5 of the videos are hidden and two of them may be the songs I'm looking for.

The first one starts with a clock ticking and is used on tense situations.

The second one is a vaporwave song but looking for that here is like looking for a specific grain of sand on the beach.

Does anyone have the links to them? Thanks in advance :giggle:
 

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First of all, hello everyone!

I'm a big fan of the game and the thing I like the most is the soundtrack. I noticed there's a playlist with the soundtrack but 5 of the videos are hidden and two of them may be the songs I'm looking for.

The first one starts with a clock ticking and is used on tense situations.

The second one is a vaporwave song but looking for that here is like looking for a specific grain of sand on the beach.

Does anyone have the links to them? Thanks in advance :giggle:
First one is likely a variant of "Synth dreams, dank memes" (original for the game, you can find on story anon's youtube, you likely meant `weird` variant which you will have to extact from the game, but it's only a less than 20 second loop). For 2nd one just give the name from console and I'll give you full name/link. There is also playlist link I posted couple pages before from omni on discord unless you already saw that.

(segment similar to weird loop starts at around 2 minutes).
 
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I think this is the only sensible response I've seen so far. The other responders seem to have a 2 line attention span.

To address the points I've quoted, I never said anything about hating the grandpa. He is despicable, but everyone already knows that. There's no need for me to mention it.

My dislike for NTR is from feeling sorry for the husband. The other commenters missed my point about how the player isn't told until hours later in gameplay.

This leads into my response into your second point: just because the MC isn't the one being cheated on, doesn't mean it suddenly doesn't matter. I commented on this game because the developer note (not the genre tag) is devoted almost entirely to emphasizing there's no ntr. A more apt analogy would be if a restaurant assured a customer that there would be no nuts in their meal, then used peanut oil to cook it.
Your analogy is not correct because the tags and genre considerations exist within a framework. The dev doesn't "inject" NTR through some blindspot (like injecting peanuts through the oil and causing the alergy) because the genre tags refer to the player/protagonist. The dev gives exposition through a tragic story and describes the life and feelings of a selfish and shortsighted man in an extraordinary situation, leaving some parts of his character open to interpretation.

One could easily interpret this exposition as him being so miserable that he didn't even consider the possibility the girl he loved was there by her own volition and not through some form of coercion/power dynamic. There are other ways to interpret this depending on how you connect the dots, and mine isn't necessarily the "correct" one, but it still speaks to his flaws.

I understand that you, personally, may feel so bad about the "husband" that it may evoke feelings of disgust for a game which promised no cheating, but you have to put things into perspective and understand that it's your personal bias and not a deception on the developer's part. If you ask 100 people about the "cheating" content of the game, they will not even understand what you are talking about.

Your post wasn't completely unreasonable since you mentioned that the cheating doesn't happen to MC, but the way you set it up, being a member for 4 years and feeling the need to mention the cheating in this game with your first post, makes you look like you are coming in strong and overdramatic. This combined with my previous point is a recipe for disaster.

To take things even further, there are 2 points where the game shows cheating. One is Leah's mother, and the other is the one you mentioned. In both situations it ended up not being cheating (or at least, the injured party didn't give a crap about it). One was a sleazy businessman down on his luck, who tried to get business favor by whoring out his wife (so they wife ended up getting back with the school sweatheart, which created other problems and showed us again how flawed she was), and the other was a delusion.

It's like the dev is actively trying to avoid it. But cheating is something that happens in the world, and it's very fair to be used as a vehicle for character development/exposition as long as it doesn't break the "convention" the dev made with his target audience.

The convention still holds strong as far as cheating is concerned and saying otherwise is being unreasonable at this point (not saying that you did, just reinforcing the point), for the reasons I explained in the first paragraph.
 
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