worthlesspeon

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What exactly is clunkier? It's not like I can't add features from ren'py to this game as long as they make sense - and a lot of the time people complain about missing features that are already implemented. Ren'py is way easier to learn for most people but it's garbage for anything other than pure VNs.
So one thing I prefer about renpy is that the even after loading a save, you can still roll back. Helps remind me of what happened at the end of a previous chapter.
 

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So one thing I prefer about renpy is that the even after loading a save, you can still roll back. Helps remind me of what happened at the end of a previous chapter.
That's not hard to add but that'll blow up save files sizes. Currently saves are a few KB in size, if rollback data is added to save it'll blow to to several MB per save (each rollback state is a full game state, so save with full rollback will be 201 times the current size).

It'll also make loading saves from older versions kinda slow because each state will need to be converted if there are any compatibility fixes for that save version.
 

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At a game that's currently ~9GBs, I don't think a few megs per save is a huge deal? I imagine that could be cut down if the saves are stored in a compressed state, but I don't think that'd be strictly necessary
 

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At a game that's currently ~9GBs, I don't think a few megs per save is a huge deal? I imagine that could be cut down if the saves are stored in a compressed state, but I don't think that'd be strictly necessary
Game currently has 100 save pages (and some people bypassed it in the past when limit was 50 pages but there was a bug that allowed to go to any page), that's 600 saves - 3GB of saves if history was saved, currently it's 15MB if all slots were used. Is it really worth it? Maybe an option to save with some part of history but I don't think enabling it by default is a good idea (at least with current save format).
 

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This is something I might implement in the future but only if I find a good way that doesn't affect players and doesn't create any issues with save backward compatibility (which is highest priority). And definitely not until new combat is done. Half assed implementation (that just stores every game state in history with save and then loads them all back on load and applies all conversions when needed) isn't that hard to make but I don't think it'd be a good idea.
 

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So one thing I prefer about renpy is that the even after loading a save, you can still roll back. Helps remind me of what happened at the end of a previous chapter.
That's actually been brought up in the discord, and one of the devs (NB) is mulling it. The problem is that each level of rollback is essentially an entire save object, so allowing 20 clicks backward increasing save files by 20x. Now each save file is only about 15k so that's not a huge deal (in my case my save folder would go from about 20MB -> 400 MB), but it will probably make some people sad if they are on tiny devices or maintain massive save folders. I believe his proposed solution was to make the saved rollback depth configurable.

Not sure when that patch is going to make it into the release, but once it does we will be able to grab at least some context when loading in after a month of hiatus.
 

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That's actually been brought up in the discord, and one of the devs (NB) is mulling it. The problem is that each level of rollback is essentially an entire save object, so allowing 20 clicks backward increasing save files by 20x. Now each save file is only about 15k so that's not a huge deal (in my case my save folder would go from about 20MB -> 400 MB), but it will probably make some people sad if they are on tiny devices or maintain massive save folders. I believe his proposed solution was to make the saved rollback depth configurable.

Not sure when that patch is going to make it into the release, but once it does we will be able to grab at least some context when loading in after a month of hiatus.
You know NB posted his response right above you right? :KEK:
 
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holy fuck! seizure warning next time? first couple pix made me flash back to my first rave! no mdma required lmao plur
 

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Does anyone know the song played when Shin'nyu-sha's event is playing, same song as when they go out to eat before karaoke. I trawled the Soundtrack Playlist for hours and couldn't find it. I saw 2 removed or unavailable songs on the playlist, so I hope it's not those.
 
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Does anyone know the song played when Shin'nyu-sha's event is playing, same song as when they go out to eat before karaoke. I trawled the Soundtrack Playlist for hours and couldn't find it. I saw 2 removed or unavailable songs on the playlist, so I hope it's not those.
Can't check it right now, but it's definitely Phoenix#2772. You can try to find it yourself on . The track you are looking for has name written on japanese
 
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As someone potentially coming back to the game after a long break.. are there still a lot of portions in the newest chapters where the point of view changes from the MC to one of the other lead characters? What about those portions where you run around the city in a circle between like 6 locations? I think a lot of this game is top notch, but those two aspects really always took me out of it.
 

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Can't check it right now, but it's definitely Phoenix#2772. You can try to find it yourself on . The track you are looking for has name written on japanese
Yeah I could tell it was Pheonix #2772 but I couldn't find the specific track. It's not on the YT Playlist anyways. Took me a bit, but I found it on bandcamp. Thanks for the pointer. Cheers. It's CM「ずっとずっと。新留小学校」編(全編)from the Maxell album. This and 'h e a r t b r o k e n' live rent free in my head. Edit: Thoughts that escaped my original post.
 
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I played this game last year up to the point where MC returned to his country and found it good but I'm not going to lie the whole comedic portion kind of put me out of the game, I found it funny at first but it clearly stopped me from rebooting this game later (don't get me wrong I like memes and comedic portions in games), but seeing that this game is one of the most beloved and highly rated here I feel like I'm missing something.
So my question is if this game gets more serious themes later.
 
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