VN Ren'Py Over the Moon [v4.4.6] [Lockheart]

RiamMar · Jan 8, 2025

kiziero said:
Do we have an estimated time for next update?I feel like its been a while

Ermi33 said:
No. Currently he works on another project.

roxasorganiz13 said:
thats stupid after he specifically went out of his way to spite patreon to keep working on this

It is the next game we will update. It is currently cooking but still needs some time.

Ermi33 · Jan 8, 2025

RiamMar said:
It is the next game we will update. It is currently cooking but still needs some time.

But what about this game?

RiamMar · Jan 8, 2025

Ermi33 said:
But what about this game?

We are talking in Over the Moon and about Over the Moon. Thought that make it obvious that I meant:
We are currently working on the next Over the Moon update and it is planned to be the next release we get out.

Edit: I thought you referenced Quean Bee with "the other project" and since that update is out... We're back to regular work on OtM.

Ermi33 · Jan 8, 2025

RiamMar said:
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We are talking in Over the Moon and about Over the Moon. Thought that make it obvious that I meant:
We are currently working on the next Over the Moon update and it is planned to be the next release we get out.

Edit: I thought you referenced Quean Bee with "the other project" and since that update is out... We're back to regular work on OtM.

Tyvm for the info!
Yes, with „another project“ I meant the new Qean Bee, with „this game“ I meant Over the Moon.

Blue Milk · Jan 17, 2025

RiamMar said:
This is a half-chapter. Yes, the next update will be Chapter 4, Part 2 (probably around v4.3.x or v4.4.x, depending on new features).

Chapter 1: 300 renders and animations in 10 scenes

Chapter 2: 249 renders and animations in 7 scenes

Chapter 3: 240 renders and animations in 7 scenes

Chapter 4p1: 177 renders and animations in 4 scenes

Our goal is to finish OtM early in 2025 with a final code revision after that.

No offense, but how do you expect to finish this game in just 5 chapters? Especially with such low render counts as these. I've reached the end of Chapter 3 and stopped once I realised Chapter 4 is only half a chapter because I figured I could just try and wait for the full chapter, but from what I've played, it feels like there's far too many things to do and to tie up before the end that 5 chapters doesn't feel like it's enough.

I can only presume this seemingly truncated content has something to do with Lockheart's issues worrying about whether this game causes a Patreon ban hammer to come down on him and so it's not getting as much done for it that he would have originally wanted to, but it's still quite disappointing to feel as though Moon is getting the short end of the stick here with a game that feels like it will have less content than Petal's game.

Also, looking at the tags, I'm guessing Moon's not going to be joining the rest of the family in their new dynamic which is quite disappointing too. I know that she doesn't have the same gene issue, but was still kinda hoping she'd reach the same point in a different way. Ah well.

DaFinker · Jan 17, 2025

Blue Milk said:
No offense, but how do you expect to finish this game in just 5 chapters? Especially with such low render counts as these. I've reached the end of Chapter 3 and stopped once I realised Chapter 4 is only half a chapter because I figured I could just try and wait for the full chapter, but from what I've played, it feels like there's far too many things to do and to tie up before the end that 5 chapters doesn't feel like it's enough.

I can only presume this seemingly truncated content has something to do with Lockheart's issues worrying about whether this game causes a Patreon ban hammer to come down on him and so it's not getting as much done for it that he would have originally wanted to, but it's still quite disappointing to feel as though Moon is getting the short end of the stick here with a game that feels like it will have less content than Petal's game.

Also, looking at the tags, I'm guessing Moon's not going to be joining the rest of the family in their new dynamic which is quite disappointing too. I know that she doesn't have the same gene issue, but was still kinda hoping she'd reach the same point in a different way. Ah well.

You don't seem to be familiar with the series. The "Game" is multiple episodes. It started with Petal, progressed with Bliss, and is now to be "Over" with this installment. I don't recall the number of releases with the first two off the top, but they were also five chapters, you have a fifteen chapter story arc.

Go to the OP and find the precursors, then maybe you'll understand.

Frazzanova · Jan 17, 2025

Blue Milk said:
I'm guessing Moon's not going to be joining the rest of the family in their new dynamic

You should probably play through the release before making guesses.

Blue Milk · Jan 17, 2025

DaFinker said:
You don't seem to be familiar with the series. The "Game" is multiple episodes. It started with Petal, progressed with Bliss, and is now to be "Over" with this installment. I don't recall the number of releases with the first two off the top, but they were also five chapters, you have a fifteen chapter story arc.

Go to the OP and find the precursors, then maybe you'll understand.

I'm very familiar with these games having played both Petal and Bliss before this and also played Avalon and the unfortunately abandoned Penny game. This one just feels a bit different than the other 2 in terms of length, whether it actually is or it's just a feeling, I don't know, but just feels like we're getting a lot less out of it than the other ones in some ways.

I know the previous games in this Rose Garden series were also short on chapter length, but they didn't feel so short on content length as this one kind of does. I mean, 3 chapters in and we've barely spent any time with Moon, always messing up and making things worse, and it feels like time and reconciliation with her is getting crammed into the last 2 chapters. Not to mention the fact that we've not spent much time with Suzi either. It's just feeling a tad lacklustre in providing a solid finish to this really good series of games from what I've played thus far and I do hope it sticks the landing in the last 2 chapters.

theEmirate43 · Feb 3, 2025

post the progress reports

Zeph3r · Friday at 8:15 AM

Saw the update on patreon, do we know roughly when a public release would be out?

RiamMar · Friday at 9:27 AM

Zeph3r said:
Saw the update on patreon, do we know roughly when a public release would be out?

I want to wait for people to play today and get potential more reports back in. Will make fixes tomorrow, so v4.4.6 should be out on Saturday.

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GioBol - The Librarian · Friday at 10:03 AM

RiamMar said:
I want to wait for people to play today and get potential more reports back in. Will make fixes tomorrow, so v4.4.6 should be out on Saturday.

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Ok the gui.text_size now needs to be checked, because the sentences in Italian tend to be longer than the equivalent ones in English.
Question: did you also correct dialogues from previous chapters?

RiamMar · Friday at 11:08 AM

GioBol - The Librarian said:
Ok the gui.text_size now needs to be checked, because the sentences in Italian tend to be longer than the equivalent ones in English.
Question: did you also correct dialogues from previous chapters?

I'll see if I can get some of the QB customization options over to OtM, then people can adjust the textbox to their liking.
About the dialogue changes, I don't think so.

Edit: Checking the latest reports, there are ten or so in chapter 3 and chapter 4 part 1, too. Those will be fixed tomorrow. I can give you a list of the file names and line numbers if you want.

GioBol - The Librarian · Friday at 11:30 AM

RiamMar said:
I'll see if I can get some of the QB customization options over to OtM, then people can adjust the textbox to their liking.
About the dialogue changes, I don't think so.

Edit: Checking the latest reports, there are ten or so in chapter 3 and chapter 4 part 1, too. Those will be fixed tomorrow. I can give you a list of the file names and line numbers if you want.

If you can put the possibility to change the font size gui.text_size is more than enough, the problem with the font size is only in the dialogues, I always fix the menu interface myself. If it is not possible it does not matter, I modify the gui.text_size or screen say() in my zzzStartGB.rpy.
If you can provide me with the list of modified dialogues (old->new) it is very welcome. The fact is that I play it personally, so I manually fix the translation of those sentences that DeepL translates badly, but the dialogues already read if they are modified I will not see them unless I start over.
Anyway do what you can, I do not want to distract you from your main work.
Thank you very much.

RiamMar · Friday at 11:33 AM

GioBol - The Librarian said:
If you can put the possibility to change the font size gui.text_size is more than enough, the problem with the font size is only in the dialogues, I always fix the menu interface myself. If it is not possible it does not matter, I modify the gui.text_size or screen say() in my zzzStartGB.rpy.
If you can provide me with the list of modified dialogues (old->new) it is very welcome. The fact is that I play it personally, so I manually fix the translation of those sentences that DeepL translates badly, but the dialogues already read if they are modified I will not see them unless I start over.
Anyway do what you can, I do not want to distract you from your main work.
Thank you very much.

I'll DM you the changes when I'm done. Font size slider in the options should not be an issue, too.

ChadFast · Saturday at 2:39 PM

I knew I should have waited for today to continue the story. Now I just ended the first part of ep4 and I'm anxiously awaiting the continuation. Yes, I've read through quite a bit of the thread, and I know there were issues previously, so glad to hear they're mostly worked out. This is a really good story (all three chapters) and I'm sad I just started playing a couple of weeks ago.

RiamMar · Saturday at 2:42 PM

ChadFast said:
I knew I should have waited for today to continue the story. Now I just ended the first part of ep4 and I'm anxiously awaiting the continuation. Yes, I've read through quite a bit of the thread, and I know there were issues previously, so glad to hear they're mostly worked out. This is a really good story (all three chapters) and I'm sad I just started playing a couple of weeks ago.

Thank you for your kind words and I'm glad you're enjoying the story!

If you have a bit more patience, I'm wrapping things up and then wait for Lockheart to update Patreon, before posting the latest update here.

hic86 · Saturday at 4:46 PM

ChadFast said:
I knew I should have waited for today to continue the story. Now I just ended the first part of ep4 and I'm anxiously awaiting the continuation. Yes, I've read through quite a bit of the thread, and I know there were issues previously, so glad to hear they're mostly worked out. This is a really good story (all three chapters) and I'm sad I just started playing a couple of weeks ago.

Problem is, you'd end up in the same boat just a day or 2 afterward after you finish the newest batch on content (Which I echo by the way... I've loved this entire series. Phenomenal job to the devs)

RiamMar · Saturday at 5:38 PM

Over the Moon v4.4.6
Chapter 4 part 2

Release Date: 2025-02-06
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