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Well me and probably other people think it's a big turn-on. But the dev should ask his paying customers and not listen to randos on this forum.
1. Many randos here do pay and i too once in a while support a dev if i trust that he won't abandon the game etc.

2. and i can't believe i need to explain this in 2025 but just like any kind of art across any media

people playing and liking the game=more attention to the game=more people playing, liking and sometimes paying the game

what use does it have to only listen to the people who already pay if it causes many people who don't like certain kinks to not play it or even give it a bad review causing far less new people to try it and therefore also causing less new potential patreons to try it or to even hear of this game

3. i don't understand why you get so rude, i never said he needs to do it, i from my view never got rude with the dev nor did i say anything bad about people who like it when women are hairy

4. if or not the developer listens to just the opinion or ideas of people who don't pay is up to him and just because someone doesn't pay it doesn't mean their opinion or ideas can't help the devs to see it from a different perspective or to get inspired for future stuff to add
 
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Well for those asking for a 'good' ainz I kinda do understand why. The plot of the overlord manga would have been INFINITELY more interesting if ainz had some humanity and he was constantly trying to bring his subordinates over to his point of view. Hell he'd have had Sebas and probably Cocyutus on his side right from the start. And Nigredo/Pestonya. It would be like he was trying to undo the brainwashing that his guildmates weith their edgelord backstories had done to these characters. As it was the power fantasy got old fast. And the mc quickly crossed every line that might have made the audience sympathize with him. And not because he was evil. That also could have been interesting. But because he just didn't care and wanted his sycophants to like him. It became boring in the end. Ainz in the anime is a character that comes accross as a posuer. Someone who acts like a total badass but is actually a spineless arsehole with borrowed power.

It would be nice to see a more interesting take on the character.
 
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Well for those asking for a 'good' ainz I kinda do understand why. The plot of the overlord manga would have been INFINITELY more interesting if ainz had some humanity and he was constantly trying to bring his subordinates over to his point of view. Hell he'd have had Sebas and probably Cocyutus on his side right from the start. And Nigredo/Pestonya. It would be like he was trying to undo the brainwashing that his guildmates weith their edgelord backstories had done to these characters. As it was the power fantasy got old fast. And the mc quickly crossed every line that might have made the audience sympathize with him. And not because he was evil. That also could have been interesting. But because he just didn't care and wanted his sycophants to like him. It became boring in the end. Ainz in the anime is a character that comes accross as a posuer. Someone who acts like a total badass but is actually a spineless arsehole with borrowed power.

It would be nice to see a more interesting take on the character.
i do wanna point out his reasoning wasnt that he wanted them to like him it was cause he was worried they would turn on him if they knew the truth (lets use wizard of oz as a comparison instead of "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" his is more of "please dont notice the curtain") however i agree it does get kind of annoying after awhile cause the series basically proves that the entirety of nazarick is blindly loyal to him so even if they knew who he really was i doubt it would change their opinions of him and it would be less stressful for ainz if he would just trust his allies
 
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i do wanna point out his reasoning wasnt that he wanted them to like him it was cause he was worried they would turn on him if they knew the truth (lets use wizard of oz as a comparison instead of "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" his is more of "please dont notice the curtain") however i agree it does get kind of annoying after awhile cause the series basically proves that the entirety of nazarick is blindly loyal to him so even if they knew who he really was i doubt it would change their opinions of him and it would be less stressful for ainz if he would just trust his allies
You do have a point. But I still think that even if he had kept the curtain but tried to be good/reform the npc's he still would have had plenty of them on his side. Demiurge is definitely questionable. But Sebas would have been 100% onboard. Most of the maids wouldnt' have minded. Neither would Aura or Mare. Cocyutus would have been loyal to his strength regardless of alignment. There's actually very few NPC's I can see revolting. And even then Sebas as a canonically good NPC never did. It feels more like if most of the NPC's had been good he'd have been a hero posuer instead of a villain posuer. Which makes me feel like he's just 'people pleasing.' Like he just doesn't care as long as the majority of the people around him dickride him.

I mean it's okay to be subtle. No neat to out himself. But he made his choices y'know? And they say something.
 
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You do have a point. But I still think that even if he had kept the curtain but tried to be good/reform the npc's he still would have had plenty of them on his side. Demiurge is definitely questionable. But Sebas would have been 100% onboard. Most of the maids wouldnt' have minded. Neither would Aura or Mare. Cocyutus would have been loyal to his strength regardless of alignment. There's actually very few NPC's I can see revolting. And even then Sebas as a canonically good NPC never did. It feels more like if most of the NPC's had been good he'd have been a hero posuer instead of a villain posuer. Which makes me feel like he's just 'people pleasing.' Like he just doesn't care as long as the majority of the people around him dickride him.

I mean it's okay to be subtle. No neat to out himself. But he made his choices y'know? And they say something.
yeah i agree most wouldnt care 1 way or another and as u pointed out sebas is actually good while cocyutus has the "might makes right" mentality so he wouldnt betray ainz given that he was 1 of the top ranked players in pvp (thus he proved his power against even other players time and time again) and the new world makes it even less likely for someone stronger to show up (given that most people in the new world believe 6th tier magic is incredibly difficult to use and 7th tier is a myth meanwhile ainz is spamming 10th tier and super tier spells) then thanks to his little joke edit he literally can do no wrong in albedo's eyes and as far as demiurge goes even if he didnt like it i dont think he would act on those feelings cause he is smart enough to know that he is not powerful enough to fight the rest of nazarick
 
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But that's why he escaped into the virtual world, in that world he chose to help the underdogs and admired the companions that where gooder than him and wanted to be like them. Also we know now that future corporate world will never happen since people just refuse to have kids, gg.
And then they will be forcefully be impregnated. But that doesn't even need to be done, as the fast majority only have elemetry school knowledge. What you are talking about is happening as people do have education which makes them have the knowledge and means to decided to not have children. What if you take away both?
 

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trying to bring his subordinates over to his point of view
Aka just saying that his are now the values he wants them to follow. Is that really more intresting? The entire point because he didn't try was fear of them turning on him. Which we as the viewer later notice would never happen.

Ainz in the anime is a character that comes accross as a posuer.
which he is, at first, but later he belives his own lies.
 

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i do wanna point out his reasoning wasnt that he wanted them to like him it was cause he was worried they would turn on him if they knew the truth (lets use wizard of oz as a comparison instead of "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" his is more of "please dont notice the curtain") however i agree it does get kind of annoying after awhile cause the series basically proves that the entirety of nazarick is blindly loyal to him so even if they knew who he really was i doubt it would change their opinions of him and it would be less stressful for ainz if he would just trust his allies
But because of how Ainz is as a person. he doesn't notice that, as his environment beforehand shaped him.
 
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You do have a point. But I still think that even if he had kept the curtain but tried to be good/reform the npc's he still would have had plenty of them on his side. Demiurge is definitely questionable. But Sebas would have been 100% onboard. Most of the maids wouldnt' have minded. Neither would Aura or Mare. Cocyutus would have been loyal to his strength regardless of alignment. There's actually very few NPC's I can see revolting. And even then Sebas as a canonically good NPC never did. It feels more like if most of the NPC's had been good he'd have been a hero posuer instead of a villain posuer. Which makes me feel like he's just 'people pleasing.' Like he just doesn't care as long as the majority of the people around him dickride him.

I mean it's okay to be subtle. No neat to out himself. But he made his choices y'know? And they say something.
Non would have turned on him. That we know as the viewers. And yes because of his previous experience and environment he has become a people pleaser. As that was what was required in his old world to survive. And that is the tragedy of the story, the possibility that if just someone could bring him out of his shell and also prove the NPC's would follow him no matter what he orders. The tragedy is that he loses what makes him human, what makes him, him. That he slips further and further into the mask he put on.

Like it would be interesting to see what would change, but I feel like for that toucheMe would need to be there.
 
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Yes it would have been more interesting to have him try and persuade them to his point of view because that would have created conflict in the story. And made him have to actually balance his responses rather than go muhahaha i'm evil.

And I do understand that him being a 'people pleaser' sorta fits with his corpo wage slave background. But it's BORING. It would have been so much more interesting if he'd taken his new lease on life as a permission to rebel against that. And try to change not only the npc's nature but his own too. To try and make something better.

The next paragraph is going to be show spoilers. But I want to use it as an example about how a difference of approach can make even some heinous actions be painted in a new light.

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Yes it would have been more interesting to have him try and persuade them to his point of view because that would have created conflict in the story. And made him have to actually balance his responses rather than go muhahaha i'm evil.

And I do understand that him being a 'people pleaser' sorta fits with his corpo wage slave background. But it's BORING. It would have been so much more interesting if he'd taken his new lease on life as a permission to rebel against that. And try to change not only the npc's nature but his own too. To try and make something better.

The next paragraph is going to be show spoilers. But I want to use it as an example about how a difference of approach can make even some heinous actions be painted in a new light.

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the thing is there actually is a series that proves your point all too well
that time i got reincarnated as a slime every move rimuru makes is to make the lives of him, his friends, and his allies better and even completely ignoring the godlike power he ends up with his nation has the single highest military might in that entire world and the few rulers that dont like him cant do anything about it cause they would not only be fighting the nation of tempest butt also several other powerful nations that rimuru formed bonds with the leaders of so if the rulers who didnt like him tried to attack they would have no allies going up against him
 

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I do plan to offer many different choices that affect the main storyline. There's one at the beginning which is pretty lone at the moment as I need the plot to advance up to a certain point before I open up that path. I have a pretty solid chart already, but if you guys really want to give your ideas (like Crazy Charmelon did), or want to make sure that I really include a choice in a point of the story you didn't really like, you can always join my Discord and leave your idea there, although I read this thread as well.

However, the protagonist will always stay evil, and that won't really change despite the diverse choices offered.
As a D&D player who has mostly done evil characters, you can perform "good" actions as long as you roleplay them properly from the protagonist's perspective.
An evil character won't have any regard towards someone's life, but if that life is useful to the protagonist's goals, then he can still keep it safe (A canon example is Nfirea, and a few key characters in Carne Village).

Unfortunately Light Novels don't offer choices, so the reader might think of different goals or things he'd like to do, and that's why I make these type of fan games.
Much like some of the canon material, I'll try to predict key points in the story where the reader might want to do things differently, and reason them from an evil perspective as it would be very odd for the protagonist to suddenly act good.

Despite the pretty detailed chart on which I've been adding stuff for years now, I doubt I predicted every single thing that people would like to do, so if you want to be extra sure, do hit me with your feedback/ideas and I'll probably include them in a form or another.
 
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Aye i've seen slime anime. But that still does kinda have the problem that his subordinates dickride him a bit too hard lol. But still I would agree that Rimuru is 100% a more compelling, likeable and relatable character than Ains. Even when he does fucked up shit you can see the actions coming from who he is and his principles. With Ainz it just kinda feels like he's just doing what he thinks is expected of him. I could understand that a bit at the start. But as the anime went on I kept waiting for this to come into question. Or for Ainz's character to develop .. It never ever did.

And yeah it's ofc fine if he stays evil mate :) I just wanted to give an example of how the characters intent matters a lot. Even if the actions are the same. I guess I just want him to actually BE a badass sometimes instead of just trying to make sure he appears infallible to demiurge or whatever.
 
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I do plan to offer many different choices that affect the main storyline. There's one at the beginning which is pretty lone at the moment as I need the plot to advance up to a certain point before I open up that path. I have a pretty solid chart already, but if you guys really want to give your ideas (like Crazy Charmelon did), or want to make sure that I really include a choice in a point of the story you didn't really like, you can always join my Discord and leave your idea there, although I read this thread as well.

However, the protagonist will always stay evil, and that won't really change despite the diverse choices offered.
As a D&D player who has mostly done evil characters, you can perform "good" actions as long as you roleplay them properly from the protagonist's perspective.
An evil character won't have any regard towards someone's life, but if that life is useful to the protagonist's goals, then he can still keep it safe (A canon example is Nfirea, and a few key characters in Carne Village).

Unfortunately Light Novels don't offer choices, so the reader might think of different goals or things he'd like to do, and that's why I make these type of fan games.
Much like some of the canon material, I'll try to predict key points in the story where the reader might want to do things differently, and reason them from an evil perspective as it would be very odd for the protagonist to suddenly act good.

Despite the pretty detailed chart on which I've been adding stuff for years now, I doubt I predicted every single thing that people would like to do, so if you want to be extra sure, do hit me with your feedback/ideas and I'll probably include them in a form or another.
yeah i have no problems with him being evil after all when done properly evil characters r more interesting (a great example of such is rou from re:monster half way through the series he even states he could exterminate entire nations if he chose to and the reason he doesnt he that it would be a hassle with no real benefit) the problem crazy chameleon brought up that i do agree with is that ainz in the anime had no goals or motives of his own he basically just let demiurge come up with ideas and just went along with them
 
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Why do you care about the engine a developer uses? Play the game, and if there's any feature missing, let me know and I'll add it.
Ty for the answer, Ren'py has always seemed to run faster than Unity, and if i have a request is to add all the usual features from Ren'Py games, at least the popular ones. For endless saving, name change, have an easier way to save different routes. But yeah mainly because in my experience Ren'py games run better and have all the UI features that make games easier to play, while Unity games are a crapshoot some do some dont, many don't and are needlessly heavy and i don't always have my gaming PC on hand to play due to various reasons.
 
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Wasn't aware that pubic hair may be gross for some people, but now that I know, I'll consider re-rendering alternatives and let players choose, or make an equal number of scenes and make it clear which one has pubic hair and which one has not.
It shouldn't be a too big of a deal, I just can't promise it for every character as I may need to visually show that some characters are indeed adults to abide to the rules of this platform and any other platform that hosts my projects.
Some people like jungles, most people don't and some people like clean shave but most people like somewhere in between, like a small bush is nice.
 

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Well for those asking for a 'good' ainz I kinda do understand why. The plot of the overlord manga would have been INFINITELY more interesting if ainz had some humanity and he was constantly trying to bring his subordinates over to his point of view. Hell he'd have had Sebas and probably Cocyutus on his side right from the start. And Nigredo/Pestonya. It would be like he was trying to undo the brainwashing that his guildmates weith their edgelord backstories had done to these characters. As it was the power fantasy got old fast. And the mc quickly crossed every line that might have made the audience sympathize with him. And not because he was evil. That also could have been interesting. But because he just didn't care and wanted his sycophants to like him. It became boring in the end. Ainz in the anime is a character that comes accross as a posuer. Someone who acts like a total badass but is actually a spineless arsehole with borrowed power.

It would be nice to see a more interesting take on the character.
I mean the reason he didn't do more good things is because he's suppressed and forced to not feel anything, even at the very beginning he remarks it as strange that he's not feeling anything even after seeing the brutality around him, only his rationality makes him do "good" things like saving some people, but he is actually undead and unfeeling so morality goes out the window to a very large extend, he's a human mind, with human morality actually trapped in an undead body. If he were to feel what he would normally as a human then he would've put a stop to the atrocities as soon as he knew of them, in fact even as a suppressed undead lord he's still putting a stop to cruelty whenever he can, as long as it doesn't conflict with his "might makes right" mentality, now unleashed due to the Undead Suppression to be more and more ruthless over time.
 
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I mean the reason he didn't do more good things is because he's suppressed and forced to not feel anything, even at the very beginning he remarks it as strange that he's not feeling anything even after seeing the brutality around him, only his rationality makes him do "good" things like saving some people, but he is actually undead and unfeeling so morality goes out the window to a very large extend, he's a human mind, with human morality actually trapped in an undead body. If he were to feel what he would normally as a human then he would've put a stop to the atrocities as soon as he knew of them, in fact even as a suppressed undead lord he's still putting a stop to cruelty whenever he can, as long as it doesn't conflict with his "might makes right" mentality, now unleashed due to the Undead Suppression to be more and more ruthless over time.
That's a decision the writer made. And it was a bad one. I'm allowed to criticize it. It's not real life. He could have wrote it out easily too maybe making it break due to a particularly traumatic event such as the loss of a pleides.
 
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