Ren'Py Ovidius - Blood for Love [Act III P2] [Nar_OBL/Narrator Studios]

[Canto Forte]

This is the whole point of hereditary: it does not need to be actual power of the perceived or actual blood relative, the military, generals, the nobles, Senators, high officials will crown the puppet child as a pawn for them to retain power - this keeps the hereditary dinasty going in actuality, pure unadulterated fact, even if you do not like it - Napoleon was not a wealthy Senator, in line politically to take precedence, yet he did. Caesar was not the most preminent senator, yet he made it into his dinasty - his declared heir became de facto, objectively, undeniably the Emperor - direct consequence of his doing, even if there were a lot of others pulling the strings and working in the shadows to instate him in that role = Senators will flock to a preminent person to further their goals and aspirations while supposedly sustaining a republic with a senate.

This is a historical simplification for children learning history in elementary school. The fact that children of officials often inherited offices from their fathers is simply the ancient Romans' understanding of bloodlines

Adopted children are also included in this. Adoptions were often within a different branch of the same gens.

Hereditary dinasty is a functioning concept with how the others position themselves in opposite camps to support at least one heir or perceived heir or sibling or blood relative - they will keep the hereditary dinasty going long after the actual blood line will have died out if it benefits their political goals.

 

[Mmushy]

Was there anything added in this update or did my choices end it early?
At the last update, MC met with the princess in her room. The update has MC back in the room with the only option to sleep, door gets kicked open and he'sarres5for treason"
That's it? All 30 seconds of it?

 

[kucejeste]

This is the whole point of hereditary: it does not need to be actual power of the perceived or actual blood relative, the military, generals, the nobles, Senators, high officials will crown the puppet child as a pawn for them to retain power - this keeps the hereditary dinasty going in actuality, pure unadulterated fact, even if you do not like it - Napoleon was not a wealthy Senator, in line politically to take precedence, yet he did. Caesar was not the most preminent senator, yet he made it into his dinasty - his declared heir became de facto, objectively, undeniably the Emperor - direct consequence of his doing, even if there were a lot of others pulling the strings and working in the shadows to instate him in that role = Senators will flock to a preminent person to further their goals and aspirations while supposedly sustaining a republic with a senate.


Hereditary dinasty is a functioning concept with how the others position themselves in opposite camps to support at least one heir or perceived heir or sibling or blood relative - they will keep the hereditary dinasty going long after the actual blood line will have died out if it benefits their political goals.

Well, that wasn't the case in Rome. In hereditary monarchies, when a ruler dies or is deposed, someone is sought who is related to him or of sufficiently noble blood (for example his family is related to a dynasty from another country) to be elected. The Romans didn't see it that way. As long as the emperor was in good standing, they could elect another from his family. If not, they would choose someone else, even from the plebs. After all, Vespasian is an emperor from nowhere. Homo Novus. If Rome is a monarchy, then the United States or Russia are also monarchs, because the officials there are usually either the wealthiest or those from great political families. The Roman Empire is something like a semi- or super-presidential republic. Besides, the emperor—shit, not emperor. The emperor doesn't even have a title. The Romans address him as "first citizen" (a title from the Republican era). Emperor is a military honorific from the Republican era. He holds the offices of tribune, quaestor, and consul—republican offices. Augustus, although the exact meaning is unclear, also has roots in the Republic. The Empire is not a hereditary monarchy.

 

[Canto Forte]

De facto and de jure are also Roman coined phrases to differentiate between actual power - De Facto Military ruler who can depose anyone he/she/it wants to by sheer maneuvering of his military power - in a place where assassinations were fact of life - look at Trump de facto Emperor (commander in chief who declares wars and kills anyone he deems opponents around the globe, no tribunal, no laws no nothing, Bibi kills anyone he wants, no trial, no laws no nothing) - runs the state by Dictatorial decree even if he goes to Congress he does not wait or need or use Congress to do whatever he wants - doubly so for Putin, Triple so for King of England - he makes up hereditary nobles titles and knights them with title, money and estates for eternity - has no need for de jure actual entitlements - these total dictators rule de facto in making their own laws, their own rules and make up their own government they can then use to dispose of any and all opponenets.

If Rome is a monarchy, then the United States or Russia are also monarchs, because the officials there are usually either the wealthiest or those from great political families.

A de facto monarchy but a de jure republic. Nobody was pretending they could treat the dictator or emperor - commander of all military forces - as just another senator with a nothing title - if that was the case, they could simply maneuver around him, which is not what they did - they treated the holder of such title as a totally all powerful ruler they had to listen to and consider, as a veto to their schemes, which is not the same as manipulating the mob or the majority of your peers to overthrow, supersede or counter someone with that title.

Should you want dramatisation, look at 300 Leonidas - a king who was supposedly under senate rule where he had just another vote, he was bigotted towards all his fellow senators - all other citizens with supposedly equal rights to himself, he saw and considered to be beneath him, some singleminded, corrupted, nobodies - if the Emperor or diactator - commander in chief of all armies in the land - looks at you and treats you like dirt, you better believe you are not his equal in any way, shape or form.

 

[gregers]

De facto and de jure are also Roman coined phrases to differentiate between actual power - De Facto Military ruler who can depose anyone he/she/it wants to by sheer maneuvering of his military power - in a place where assassinations were fact of life - look at Trump de facto Emperor (commander in chief who declares wars and kills anyone he deems opponents around the globe, no tribunal, no laws no nothing, Bibi kills anyone he wants, no trial, no laws no nothing) - runs the state by Dictatorial decree even if he goes to Congress he does not wait or need or use Congress to do whatever he wants - doubly so for Putin, Triple so for King of England - he makes up hereditary nobles titles and knights them with title, money and estates for eternity - has no need for de jure actual entitlements - these total dictators rule de facto in making their own laws, their own rules and make up their own government they can then use to dispose of any and all opponenets.

A de facto monarchy but a de jure republic. Nobody was pretending they could treat the dictator or emperor - commander of all military forces - as just another senator with a nothing title - if that was the case, they could simply maneuver around him, which is not what they did - they treated the holder of such title as a totally all powerful ruler they had to listen to and consider, as a veto to their schemes, which is not the same as manipulating the mob or the majority of your peers to overthrow, supersede or counter someone with that title.

Should you want dramatisation, look at 300 Leonidas - a king who was supposedly under senate rule where he had just another vote, he was bigotted towards all his fellow senators - all other citizens with supposedly equal rights to himself, he saw and considered to be beneath him, some singleminded, corrupted, nobodies - if the Emperor or diactator - commander in chief of all armies in the land - looks at you and treats you like dirt, you better believe you are not his equal in any way, shape or form.

You are confused/-ing.

The ancient Roman Empire was not a hereditary monarchy. Leonidas, Trump, Netanyahu, and Putin are not Romans. The Moon is probably not made out of cheese. The setting for this game bears little to no resemblance to ancient Rome. None of these are controversial statements.

 

[Bellumme]

Was there anything added in this update or did my choices end it early?
At the last update, MC met with the princess in her room. The update has MC back in the room with the only option to sleep, door gets kicked open and he'sarres5for treason"
That's it? All 30 seconds of it?

Did you receive a reply?

 

[gregers]

Was there anything added in this update or did my choices end it early?
At the last update, MC met with the princess in her room. The update has MC back in the room with the only option to sleep, door gets kicked open and he'sarres5for treason"
That's it? All 30 seconds of it?

I haven't looked at the update but that, i.e. the MC's arrest, was one of a few possible endings of the last version. Are you maybe playing with a mod that hasn't been updated?

 

[maeoma]

Thank you for the helpful feedback. I'm working on it right now.

Hi I enjoy the setting of this game, historic games without fantasy element seem rare. I also ask is titjob a planned kink for including in this game?

 

[kucejeste]

De facto and de jure are also Roman coined phrases to differentiate between actual power - De Facto Military ruler who can depose anyone he/she/it wants to by sheer maneuvering of his military power - in a place where assassinations were fact of life - look at Trump de facto Emperor (commander in chief who declares wars and kills anyone he deems opponents around the globe, no tribunal, no laws no nothing, Bibi kills anyone he wants, no trial, no laws no nothing) - runs the state by Dictatorial decree even if he goes to Congress he does not wait or need or use Congress to do whatever he wants - doubly so for Putin, Triple so for King of England - he makes up hereditary nobles titles and knights them with title, money and estates for eternity - has no need for de jure actual entitlements - these total dictators rule de facto in making their own laws, their own rules and make up their own government they can then use to dispose of any and all opponenets.

A de facto monarchy but a de jure republic. Nobody was pretending they could treat the dictator or emperor - commander of all military forces - as just another senator with a nothing title - if that was the case, they could simply maneuver around him, which is not what they did - they treated the holder of such title as a totally all powerful ruler they had to listen to and consider, as a veto to their schemes, which is not the same as manipulating the mob or the majority of your peers to overthrow, supersede or counter someone with that title.

Should you want dramatisation, look at 300 Leonidas - a king who was supposedly under senate rule where he had just another vote, he was bigotted towards all his fellow senators - all other citizens with supposedly equal rights to himself, he saw and considered to be beneath him, some singleminded, corrupted, nobodies - if the Emperor or diactator - commander in chief of all armies in the land - looks at you and treats you like dirt, you better believe you are not his equal in any way, shape or form.

It is neither de facto nor de jure. A monarch is a person who holds power for life and who "theoretically" cannot be removed because the state is their domain. Additionally, there are hereditary and elective monarchies. In hereditary monarchies, power remains in the hands of a specific family and its branches. In elective monarchies, power may remain in the hands of a single family, but there is a formalized possibility that upon the ruler's death, someone (a body, a college, citizens) can choose another ruler. Of course, the ruler can abdicate, but this can never be forced by any law (in constitutional and parliamentary monarchies, this also works theoretically, but the ruler agrees to convention. That theoretically they don't have to follow it, but they will so as not to upset anyone - a good example is Great Britain, where the ruler could seize absolute power at any time, but they don't because they agree to convention).

In a democracy, however, you have elected officials who are either limited by term limits or have a formalized and enforceable process for removal from power by the citizens. The First Citizen of Rome falls into this category. He is elected and an official, and therefore legally removable. Legally, of course, in the ancient Roman sense. The Romans had three methods for removing incompetent officials. 1. Wait until their one-year term ends; 2. Force them to resign by citing their crimes and sins. 3. If nothing worked, engage in militia and kill them. Since the emperor theoretically held office indefinitely (in practice, they often symbolically participated in elections and extended their terms), there were two ways to remove them from power. However, since the army, the Senate and the population of the capital participated in the election of the emperor, it was difficult to legally force them to resign as it would require the unanimous consent of these 3 estates (which was rare but did happen), hence the frequent assassinations of emperors by the Senate, the Guard and the army (often with the cooperation of several parties) (but this also happened in the late period of the republic, when many politicians were murdered or killed by militias). So, as I said, Rome is neither de facto nor de jure a hereditary monarchy, and therefore there are no princely or even imperial titles.

 

[longjohngold]

Not all the sounds fall under the 3 sliders. There's a lot of spelling mistakes, see below.

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[marvelfreak3000]

Got MILF?

 

[Geko1711]

ITALIAN TRANSLATION

Hi, I think that a game like this couldn't be without an Italian translation.
Which you can find here.
To install it, unzip the translation into the main game folder.
It's completely free, made by fans of ITALIAN ORIGINS "TRANSLATIONS".
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[Remplier]

Was there anything added in this update or did my choices end it early?
At the last update, MC met with the princess in her room. The update has MC back in the room with the only option to sleep, door gets kicked open and he'sarres5for treason"
That's it? All 30 seconds of it?

That's what the update amounts to for me, as well. I started a new game file only to have the same outcome (and I'm not using any mods).

 

[Frankbob]

That's what the update amounts to for me, as well. I started a new game file only to have the same outcome (and I'm not using any mods).

Same here, sleep, arrested then its over.

 

[SeductivXP]

Same here, sleep, arrested then its over.

same here

 

[Orlu]

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Changelog:
Act III
Visuals: 1185 QHD images (244 new!)
Animation: 75 scenes total (3 new!) with 41 "hot" animations
Script: 19,857 words (5,463 new)

Act III (Part I)
New: 243 QHD static Renders
New Animation: 3 hot animations
Script: 19,247 words in total

New: 243 QHD static Renders
QHD images (244 new!)

New Animation: 3 hot animations
Animation: [...] (3 new!)

Script: 19,247 words in total
Script: 19,857 words

Yeah, there's basically nothing. 1 static render, 610 words diff.

 

[The Narrator]

Hi, guys, and Merry Christmas!
Now that Part Two has been leaked, I'm going to help you with your issues.
If the Prince is kicking your door, it means you made some wrong choices during the game.
One reason is that you left the princess's chamber too early and the prince saw you. Game Over
I found an issue in the script (If you refuse the Prince's gift). I've fixed the issue, but the fix will be released in the next update.
!!!If you refuse the gift, you'll miss out on a significant part of the game!!!
For those who asked about MILF, it will be included in the next updates. For now, you just meet one, but nothing happens.
In this new update, which I didn't plan to release right away, you will continue the story with the cellar girl that you've taught to dance.

 

[The Narrator]

For those who are searching for real history in this game, I invite them to read a book. This is a fucking porn game. It is not a history lesson.

 

[Draco0]

Was there anything added in this update or did my choices end it early?
At the last update, MC met with the princess in her room. The update has MC back in the room with the only option to sleep, door gets kicked open and he'sarres5for treason"
That's it? All 30 seconds of it?

the same thing happen to me, and it put me back to the main menu

 

[The Narrator]

the same thing happen to me, and it put me back to the main menu

https://f95zone.to/threads/ovidius-...nar_obl-narrator-studios.248685/post-19009859