VN Ren'Py Package Perfect [v0.6] [Lewtopia]

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Boyim

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I mean, not really, there's a distinct difference in demographic and a difference in kink for those who wants futas to be unrealistically big, and they are in the minority.
No, most modern futa fans do in fact want the cocks to start at a 12 inch minimum.

That doesn't mean they all want them longer than 24 or "hyper" or some such.
But this was like a 14 inch dick we were talking about here in this game.
If you think that G4E and Bloodlust 'Went over poorly with futa fans because of the size.' You're massively out of touch.

Further they are both now old news, and big dick technology/expectations have advanced further.
Take a look at any of Nyl's stuff, who is near universally recognized as the best modern 3D futa artist, and surprise surprise; It's all 16 inch fist thick cocks, or bigger.

I'm sorry you've been left behind, but this is the bog standard futa taste at the moment.
 

Ciaran8023

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No, most modern futa fans do in fact want the cocks to start at a 12 inch minimum.

That doesn't mean they all want them longer than 24 or "hyper" or some such.
But this was like a 14 inch dick we were talking about here in this game.
If you think that G4E and Bloodlust 'Went over poorly with futa fans because of the size.' You're massively out of touch.

Further they are both now old news, and big dick technology/expectations have advanced further.
Take a look at any of Nyl's stuff, who is near universally recognized as the best modern 3D futa artist, and surprise surprise; It's all 16 inch fist thick cocks, or bigger.

I'm sorry you've been left behind, but this is the bog standard futa taste at the moment.
This game already has had the size adjusted apparently, so your "majority" seems to not be, in fact, a majority.

Also, being the best futa artist has less to do with the design and more to do with the fact that the guy knows how to make animations REAL well.
It's the same reason as to why Butch was popular as fuck back in the day despite basically only doing NTR/blacked content, with both of those kinks being fairly small in the grand scheme of things.

I just find it interesting that you're supposedly speaking for the "majority" when no singular human being can do so. I already had this exact same conversation with some dude a while back, who also just went "EVERYONE WANTS A 20 INCH DONG ON A FUTA, THAT'S HOW IT IS" despite the fact that it's been the most common complaint/point of friction in this thread.
 

Arachnophilia

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This game already has had the size adjusted apparently, so your "majority" seems to not be, in fact, a majority.

Also, being the best futa artist has less to do with the design and more to do with the fact that the guy knows how to make animations REAL well.
It's the same reason as to why Butch was popular as fuck back in the day despite basically only doing NTR/blacked content, with both of those kinks being fairly small in the grand scheme of things.

I just find it interesting that you're supposedly speaking for the "majority" when no singular human being can do so. I already had this exact same conversation with some dude a while back, who also just went "EVERYONE WANTS A 20 INCH DONG ON A FUTA, THAT'S HOW IT IS" despite the fact that it's been the most common complaint/point of friction in this thread.
The problem is that the "minority" that hates futa, or that hates the abnormal size of futa dicks, or that wants futa games to be starred by dominant men who dominate futa, are organized and noisy people. Just look at how in literally every futa game thread there are always about 5 people who badmouth the content saying: "It would be better if the size was normal" "it would be better if it were 'man x woman', and not 'futa woman x woman'". These people are extremely loud and annoying and make all the threads move with this subject, but they are always the "minority".

And let's go to the plot-twist: These boring people are never talking in topics with games with "male x female" content, or totally straight content.
 

Ciaran8023

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The problem is that the "minority" that hates futa, or that hates the abnormal size of futa dicks, or that wants futa games to be starred by dominant men who dominate futa, are organized and noisy people. Just look at how in literally every futa game thread there are always about 5 people who badmouth the content saying: "It would be better if the size was normal" "it would be better if it were 'man x woman', and not 'futa woman x woman'". These people are extremely loud and annoying and make all the threads move with this subject, but they are always the "minority".

And let's go to the plot-twist: These boring people are never talking in topics with games with "male x female" content, or totally straight content.
Do you.. do you understand the terms "majority" and "minority"?
MC's size was brought up by far more than 5 people. In fact, it was brought up an overwhelming amount compared to those who felt that MC was just enough or even too small.

That makes the people who didn't like the MC's size, the majority. That's just kind of how both language and maths work.
The dev wouldn't have downsized the MC if there weren't a very large amount of people wanting the MC to have a smaller dong.
 

Knight_of_the_lance

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I don't care for the majority minority bullshit.

This is not a democracy this is a creative production by an author that wants to do something. What is evident to me is that there is enough space for both crowds, the one that want an oversized dick and the one that want a more regular one. As public the only thing we can do is rejoice for the coming of a new player in the arena. The more there is the more will come. I would much rather celebrate a game that is not exactly for me than argue with others about something I have no control over. That's mental masturbation.

If you think you're in the majority, what ever that means, in your niche and that it allows you to berate others because of it, you are no better. Why not try to pull rather than push back?

I'll have to remind people for the Nth time the dev did not reduce the size to please anyone but themselves, they needed to do it to have an easier time working and by doing that they did not alter their vision for what they wanted to do, it's still there what they did is compromise which is not the same thing. You can bet your ass that if the dev could do with the current size they would do it in a heart beat and that bigger dicks are to come once their honed their skill. And arguing about what they should or should not do is pointless. Their work, their vision, their choice and their rule.
 

Ciaran8023

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I don't care for the majority minority bullshit.

This is not a democracy this is a creative production by an author that wants to do something. What is evident to me is that there is enough space for both crowds, the one that want an oversized dick and the one that want a more regular one. As public the only thing we can do is rejoice for the coming of a new player in the arena. The more there is the more will come. I would much rather celebrate a game that is not exactly for me than argue with others about something I have no control over. That's mental masturbation.

If you think you're in the majority, what ever that means, in your niche and that it allows you to berate others because of it, you are no better. Why not try to pull rather than push back?

I'll have to remind people for the Nth time the dev did not reduce the size to please anyone but themselves, they needed to do it to have an easier time working and by doing that they did not alter their vision for what they wanted to do, it's still there what they did is compromise which is not the same thing. You can bet your ass that if the dev could do with the current size they would do it in a heart beat and that bigger dicks are to come once their honed their skill. And arguing about what they should or should not do is pointless. Their work, their vision, their choice and their rule.
While there is merit within downsizing things in order to avoid texture issues/clipping/etc and everything that goes into it, the vast majority of devs will just iterate on it until they get it to where they want it rather than compromising on something.
Devs rarely ever compromise on anything unless it's something that will effect the popularity of the game, and as you said they're still likely following their vision, but I'd be cautious against thinking that they only made this decision due to the technical aspect.

There have been plenty of games before this that have had oversized dongs so the dev could've easily just solicited advice from other developers on the technical aspects if they wanted to keep the dongsize.
This is also just a demo, so the dev would've had the time to iterate on making the size work if they wanted to, as it is not like it was in between a 0.1 and 0.2 update or something along those lines.

I have no horse in the race, but it's just silly to see camp A going "THE FUTAS DICK IS TOO SMALL, ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS A RUBE" and camp B going "THE FUTAS DICK IS TOO BIG, SIZE KINKS GTFO". Of course, one of them is inevitably going to be a majority and it seems clear which one it ended up being, but it's idiotic to take a stance as if the game somehow belongs to their kink when it is, as you said, the devs work/vision/choice and rule. That's what mainly annoys me with these arguments.

Personally, I could do without the MC being 45% penis to bodyweight ratio, but I also don't really care because if it gets too egregious, I'll just not play it. It really is as simple as that, and I think more people should view it from that perspective rather than becoming tribalistic about it.
 

Alley_Cat

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While there is merit within downsizing things in order to avoid texture issues/clipping/etc and everything that goes into it, the vast majority of devs will just iterate on it until they get it to where they want it rather than compromising on something.
Devs rarely ever compromise on anything unless it's something that will effect the popularity of the game, and as you said they're still likely following their vision, but I'd be cautious against thinking that they only made this decision due to the technical aspect.

There have been plenty of games before this that have had oversized dongs so the dev could've easily just solicited advice from other developers on the technical aspects if they wanted to keep the dongsize.
This is also just a demo, so the dev would've had the time to iterate on making the size work if they wanted to, as it is not like it was in between a 0.1 and 0.2 update or something along those lines.

I have no horse in the race, but it's just silly to see camp A going "THE FUTAS DICK IS TOO SMALL, ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS A RUBE" and camp B going "THE FUTAS DICK IS TOO BIG, SIZE KINKS GTFO". Of course, one of them is inevitably going to be a majority and it seems clear which one it ended up being, but it's idiotic to take a stance as if the game somehow belongs to their kink when it is, as you said, the devs work/vision/choice and rule. That's what mainly annoys me with these arguments.

Personally, I could do without the MC being 45% penis to bodyweight ratio, but I also don't really care because if it gets too egregious, I'll just not play it. It really is as simple as that, and I think more people should view it from that perspective rather than becoming tribalistic about it.
Not just other artists, but the asset vendors too. On another forum, the vendor of my favourite futa asset I've found really pleasant to talk to
 
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Boyim

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This game already has had the size adjusted apparently, so your "majority" seems to not be, in fact, a majority.
And yet a cursory glance at any booru using the futanari tag will reveal exactly as I said.
13+ is the standard.

This regardless of a handful of people pestering the dev into shooting himself in the foot.

I don't care for the majority minority bullshit.

This is not a democracy this is a creative production by an author that wants to do something. What is evident to me is that there is enough space for both crowds, the one that want an oversized dick and the one that want a more regular one. As public the only thing we can do is rejoice for the coming of a new player in the arena. The more there is the more will come. I would much rather celebrate a game that is not exactly for me than argue with others about something I have no control over. That's mental masturbation.

I'll have to remind people for the Nth time the dev did not reduce the size to please anyone but themselves, they needed to do it to have an easier time working and by doing that they did not alter their vision for what they wanted to do, it's still there what they did is compromise which is not the same thing. You can bet your ass that if the dev could do with the current size they would do it in a heart beat and that bigger dicks are to come once their honed their skill. And arguing about what they should or should not do is pointless. Their work, their vision, their choice and their rule.
Your caring doesn't change what happened.

The dev on at least one occasion has mentioned that he did, in part, change the size because of outcry.
He has gone back and forth on this and has also mentioned the size being difficult for mouths etc. as the primary reason on another.
But to mention the outcry motivating him at all proves the unfortunate necessity of these conversations.

This apparently was at least partly, a 'democratic' seeming decision, to this dev at one point.
And this is because he was misled about the actual sentiments possessed by futa coomers.
 

ich0

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Why the long discussion? If the world in this game doesn't have much magic or the penis can go really small when we don't see it, then it is unrealistic to live a normal life with a massive penis, including penetrating other people.
And the penis in the pictures is big enough to cause problems.

I personally like the bigger sizes, but if there is a story you have to include the world and the capability of the futa. I will be more confused if there is no bulge in clothes or in people if the penis is too big.

If there is nothing new to say, then please stop complaining, until the next version is out. Thanks for reading.
 

Ciaran8023

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I think the main issue is just proportions. She's like 5 foot nothing, even a 7 - 8 inch dong would look large on her, so 14+ is comical.
Still too big for me to take anything seriously, so I'll likely just not play.
 
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