VN - Ren'Py - Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

  1. 5.00 star(s)

    hay2252

    (Reviewed as of update 4 of chapter 3)

    Sex club might be one of the most unique setting for adult visual novels on F95 as it is a pretty unpopular choice for the demographics on this site. But the developers made it work perfectly.

    Thanks to the unique setting, the story is very enjoyable. Each character has their own personality, goal and problem differently, which make me looking forward the next updates to understand these intriguing characters more and more.

    The renders are just as good as the story, they are done beautifully, even though this game is made on old HS1 engine. The characters, even those side characters are just as charming as the main casts. The scenes are lively as well, the developers tried to make the surrounding environment look alive, not just focusing on the main characters.

    The soundtracks, although not original, they are suited with the overall atmosphere of the game neatly, especially main menu theme really set the mood for playing the game.

    My only issue for this game is that whenever character profile is updated, it overwrites the old description of that character. So it would be nice if the player can look back to the previous descriptions as well.

    I also hoped that the developers continued exploring on depraving content that most developers are shy away from.

    10/10, Solid 5 Stars.
  2. 5.00 star(s)

    Walkertr

    Amazing game! Couldn't stop playing until the end of the chapter. Strongly recomended game and ill go for patreon to support this masterpiace. There great characters, amazing sex scenes and the plot still one of the best in adult games.
  3. 5.00 star(s)

    blaggie

    I am genuinely in awe of the writing in this game. I did not expect such character variations and motivations in a porn game at all and it caught me very off guard. You can really feel every drop of love and passion the game dev puts into this game. I am really looking forward to what comes next! 5/5
  4. 5.00 star(s)

    Blizzard99

    (Version Reviewed: Ch. 3 Update 4)

    Great story with great visuals. It's amazing how GIL manages to make the Honey Select rendered characters emote so much. TD does a brilliant job with the story as well.

    Despite having the scenario set in such a depraved world as Pale Carnations, the player is made to feel for the characters - both the main ones and the side characters. The usage of Victoria as the moral compass was an excellent idea. Especially when her image pops up whenever the MC is having too much fun, we realize how much more depraved the MC is getting after each passing day. Hana has easily managed to become one of my favorite AVN girls and the Felicia isn't really far off.

    Looking forward to the next update, as always.
  5. 5.00 star(s)

    jamievalero

    This is an excellent game with great visuals, and a sexy escapist story that ticks off a lot of boxes for me. While I have some reservations in a couple of the scenes in the game, I find it acceptable within the premise of the story that gentlemen bastards can be sleazy without bounds when they entertain their naughty boy's club mentality.

    The MC is faced with the choice of either developing to be one of these sleazy gentlemen bastards, or somehow navigating how to be a decent guy despite the circumstances in the game.

    This is not to say that the story is a serious morality play -- it is still erotic fiction, but what I like about it is that it's smartly written and appeals between the ears as much as it does between the legs.

    Kudos to the developers for making this game.
  6. 5.00 star(s)

    A good Joe

    Really well done quality game. Everything about playing this game just feels like a dev who knows what they are doing and does it with amazing polish. Story flows really well and the writing seems really well done for all the girls so far. I am not always on board with the adult content in the game (dont think I am supposed to be either) but its been really good so far.

    The girls in the game are unique and some amazing adult scenes with great buildup. Nothing feels rushed for the content for any of the girls so far.

    Hope the updates continue at a good pace with the quality we have had because this game just oozes a creator who has mastered their craft.
  7. 5.00 star(s)

    CRose23

    Ch.3 Up. 3

    Excellent game. Exceptional storytelling, characters, animations and lewd scenes. I think it's the best game on the site, quite comfortably

    My only slight criticism would be the range/diversity of body types. Which while broad, there aren't any "thin" girls without large breasts. I think Harper might come the closest, and while that sort of body type isn't really what I prefer (I think Felicia has the best body in the game hands down), the variance would be fun to play around with. Same goes for "dark" characters. Dahlia is darker skinned, but I was hoping to find someone around the same complexion as Jacob

    Still, while those things would certainly enhance the game experience, I can't say it's not deserving of 5 stars as it is.
  8. 5.00 star(s)

    Nanakiiii

    This is so well written...
    I could fap reading and be satisfied...

    Beautiful renders, gorgeous women, believable personalities, great humor.
    There is just so much done right.

    You've got to play this one.
  9. 5.00 star(s)

    bolenart

    Fantastic game.

    What stands out is that it contains the best written sex scenes of any VN out there. You get the impression that they're done by a professional erotic literature writer. There's a clear focus on quality over quantity when it comes to the sex scenes which I think is absolutely the right way to go about it.

    The writing in general is great, and it has a very mature approach to a rather dark story. There's lots of kinky stuff, blackmail, BDSM etc. Thankfully it's not only extreme fetishes; there are more wholesome interactions and relationships so that a person who has no interest in BDSM (like me) can still greatly enjoy the game.

    The female cast is fantastic. It is pretty diverse (the cute model/"little sister"-type, the rocker chick, the amazonian, the trophy wife, the mommy, the dom type) and while I do not care about some of these, it also contains two of my absolute all-time favorite LIs.

    There's also a moral conundrum component to the game which I enjoy. The MC is fundamentally a good person but depending on your choices you can indulge his more depraved side, or stay pure and good and try to help the other characters.

    You owe it to yourself to try this one.
  10. 5.00 star(s)

    Gray21

    This game is incredibly amazing.
    Im not gonna lie, at first, after seeing the few screenshots on this site, i wrote it off as just another random anime game but man, i could not have been more wrong. This game is an actual game. You can just feel it how much work and careful thought has been put into it, in the story, in the characters, situations, etc. There is nothing low effort in this, and you never feel like the devs are making it up as they go.
    The characters are extremely well written, and all of them feel unique, including the player character. The girls arent there just to check a specific fetish, they are well realized characters with their own motivations, backstory and personality. I just loved every minute of interactions with all of them, though my all time favorites are Kathleen, Veronica and Rosalind.

    What actually impressed me though was the artistry in the game. This game has the best character posing i have seen in any visual novel. The attention to detail in the body language for every character, not to mention the hand posing is nothing short of amazing. It elevates the game above many others. As someone who knows how hard it is to pose characters so they look natural, i was super impressed of what i have seen in the game. And of course the animations are great and just as impressive. Then there are the environments, that are, again, very well though out and most of them specifically created for the game. Great stuff.

    Overall, this game is absolutely amazing, highly recommended, and i cant wait to see more. I wish the best for the devs and i hope they will continue to deliver this high quality content in the future.
  11. 5.00 star(s)

    Netori Fiend

    This game has ruined other games for me. Peak writing, peak characters, peak immersion.

    The characters are woefully human with well explored motivations and personalities. The MC isn't a simple braindead self-insert, he has his own motivations, and while the choices we as the player take shape him in various ways, he isn't a blank slate. Killian is an amazing 'brother', I absolutely love the man, but I'd also sock him in the face for some of his decisions, he's realistic. The girls, I won't go too into detail with since there's just so many. But I loved every moment of time that my boy(Player Character) spent with them. The history, personality, and motivations of each character just fits perfectly. Their reactions to the PC's own actions and the situations they find themselves in are masterful, there hasn't been a single moment where I found myself annoyed at the inconsistence of their actions, even in the times PC acts like a creep, he acknowledges the fact rather than the game just passing it off as a supposedly natural interaction between people.

    This game does a masterful tightrope act of balancing the depraved debauchery that the PC finds himself in, and certain wholesome sections of the game. As a man, I'd consider my sexual tastes definitely fucked up and jaded. I usually find typical romance to be a snoozefest, but I actually enjoyed the wholesome interactions between certain characters. The girls fulfill a role and a niche, but they weren't just ready made cookie cutter molds pulled right from the factory, they were naturally-written and realistic.

    The models and renders were beautiful, but I will admit that the game could use some improvements in some H-scenes. But as it is now, it's far above simply serviceable. UI had the perfect touch of class. The affection system is more developed and well-thought out than the basic standard of these types of Visual Novels. Gallery has some glitches and kinks to be worked out, such as relocking some events after a crash(it seems). Even though as of the current time of me writing this review, the game is unfinished. The amount of content this game has is more than adequate to satisfy whoever chooses to read the VN, and it'll still leave you sorely starved for what's coming next.

    Thank you for the masterpiece, Mutt and Jeff.

    I'm down bad for both Mina (I'm sorry Killian, my brother in Chuck) and Hana.

    Chapter 4 Update 2 Review (SPOILERS)-
    I am actually worse than Killian. I'm a sick greedy fuck who wants it all.

    This game will definitely make you feel the consequences of each of your choices, if you’re able to put yourself in the shoes of the player character. And fuck, the story is good. So fucking good I can't help but to update my review again. Shit's so good I want Mutt & Jeff to take their damn sweet time to make sure they make a Magnum Opus surpassing anything ever written when it comes to erotic literature, and that's exactly what this is. Just hoping I don't die before I get to read this Supreme masterpiece in all its glory.

    For the games we play for fantasy and escapism, this game is really, and I mean REALLY difficult to take as just a brainless fuckfest game. I've never felt more self-loathing and hatred for my own circumstances than any other game. Not because of all the fucked up shit the club puts the player character AND the audience through.

    To put it plainly, even in this game, I had to rein in my own inhibitions to go balls to the wall absolute monster of an inhuman being for the sake of the Carnations, even though its ultimately what I want to do. I want to be able to have my cake and fuck it too, but much like reality, it doesn't come sliced like that. What is it that you ultimately desire? Are you willing to give up your own gratification just to make it slightly easier on these woefully human fictional characters? I'm somewhat of a perfectionist when it comes to "route-hunting" and this game makes it plainly impossible.

    As the Protagonist states "These kinds of justifications, I refused to make them. If you're gonna be shitty, I believe you should embrace it." - A philosophy I wholeheartedly agree with.

    I wish at times, that I was as inconsiderate and thoughtless as my Ian. I agree with Uncle Chuck and Felicia's philosophy on hedonism, but Mina and Hana have also drawn parallels to my own relationships and my FUCKED and warped views on sex and relationships. But in the end, this game has helped me realize I'm fucked up for a reason. One I'm not ashamed to embrace. You will end up hurting the girls you come to endear one way or the other, especially when you're as greedy a fuck like me or Ian. Unless you're so unabashedly faithful to a girl or compartmentalize this masterpiece as just a game, which is kind of hard since the writing is so fucking good.

    I'll skip going into the Carnations since they're far more entrenched in the club's story and progression, not to diminish their own qualities and motivations, but Mina and Hana are somewhat different due to their positions in relation to the story. As of this point, my next two paragraph will purely be my own subjective interpretations.

    Mina and Hana are both somewhat two sides of a coin.
    Mina represents somewhat an escape from the club, somewhat related, but not embroiled in it. Her character fulfills what she was written for, which is doubly ironic due to her role as an actress. She's a bubbly young girl who heals your heart and soul in between the "intermissions" of the club, shall I say. Her character brings joy to even a jaded fucker like me. Enough that I was willing to drive a wedge between her and my brother-in-arms Killian. Realistically, I follow through on the "bros before hoes" rule, but I was willing to wage war on Killian and fuck up their relationship for her, like the absolute shitbag I am and move straight into leading her on and fucking her brains out after I agreed with Hana to a relationship. Of which I'll get into next.

    Hana represents the existence of a somewhat normal relationship in "coexistence" with the club, shall I say. The player character shares a past with some relative similarities. She fits my tastes as big tiddy goth gf, but she's more than that. When she gives herself to you (as the player character), she's letting her guard down, allowing herself to be vulnerable as she trusts you. I love Hana, so when she propositions the relationship after a really good time, I accepted. But when push came to shove, I'm no different than Ian. I betrayed her trust, but I didn't feel particularly guilty, I simply felt greedy. And the game makes sure that you as the player character truly understand what you're doing, that you're aware of feeling, what you're choosing.

    Greed is a great quality, but I'm the type to eat until I burst, and I know by the end of this, I'm about to explode.

    Unlike my previous review which existed before we were able to bang and commit to Mina or Hana, I feel empty after it, I'm still craving for more, but the deeper into the hole I go, the more I truly understand that when you look into the Abyss, the Abyss also stares back.

    As for the technical aspect of the game, it's been improved since my last review, the previous issues in regard to scene-locking were no longer present in the current build. The music runs through a somewhat limited track, but it does the job at setting the mood. Adding the audible *thwack* to ass-slapping was a MASSIVE improvement, and there are some scenes which add faint moaning sounds, which while it would personally be a good add-on, would require a not-insignificant amount of work as it should be tuned to the voices of the tone of voice to the girls as M&J envisioned.

    TL;DR: If you have a craving for finely written erotic literature, if you want something to ruminate over even after you shut the game off, if you want to be taken for an emotional and mental ride if you're willing to immerse yourself in this game and its immorality, then you'd be doing yourself a disservice by skipping out on this game.

    For the love of fuck, Mutt & Jeff, I whole-heartedly appreciate the passion and work you put into this game. Your writing and quality make the game for above simply a cut above the rest of the games. Since to me, this game wasn't simply a game. It's unironically a journey, you guys just seem to one-up yourself with every update. I don't feel a need to set unreasonable expectations upon how this work of art will end because this game will undoubtedly cement itself as a masterpiece among the rest here, shall I say.

    P.S. - Get the voyeuristic history perk, as much as I love being a neurotic firestarter, it doesn't particularly play as much of a role due to the nature of the story, though it might change in future updates.

    -Slaughter Demon
  12. 5.00 star(s)

    akiow

    The first and only game I subscribed to Patreon to support the development.

    The story is very exciting and with a lot of decision-making possibilities. There are many situations that develop differently depending on the choices made.
    The characters are charming and hot. The quality of the models and the animations is very high

    A must play!
  13. 3.00 star(s)

    lovehate

    For me the story didn't feel engaging but more routine so can't say that the game has exceptional writing or something like that. Renders are decent more or less, some characters a kinda likable but that's it, I wasn't hooked at all after finishing it.
  14. 5.00 star(s)

    GrigoriRasputin

    This game flew under my radar but it was phenomenal. Strong amount of content as of the current version (Ch3 update 3). By far one of the best games on the site. It should be noted that this game does have extreme content since it essentially follows a porn version of Eyes Wide Shut.

    The storyline is intriguing and provides a nice context for exceedingly depraved scenes to take place. It also grants the option of a moral quandary for those who want to follow that path. The dialogues and writing are stellar with minimal errors; the character design is also varied and well done. Probably the most praiseworthy aspect is the pacing. It strikes a great balance between a slow burn (which I always like) and progressing the relationships.

    The game has no grind and is a fairly straightforward visual novel. Although fairly linear, the player can make a few meaningful choices.

    My only real complaint, albeit a minor one, is that the body types of the character models could use more diversity. With a few exceptions, they all look somewhat same-y. In any future games, the dev might want to consider adding some more petite characters as well.

    Overall, this is a rare instance of a game with both excellent visuals, gameplay and writing. A true gem.
  15. 5.00 star(s)

    Antera

    When I first started playing game I thought it would be mindless banging game, Oh boy how wrong I was. If you like great stories and character developments this game would be perfect for you. While some of the moments and LIs were outside of my comfort zone, it still was great experience.

    My taste is more tame so it was natural that it was Mina and Hana who sold this game to me. I am sucker for good romance and this two girls have big protentional. Other LIs are interesting too, Hell Felicia to whom I was looking very skeptically managed to turn me towards her positively. She too has chance to develop interesting and cute romance if developers decided so.

    On technical side, Menu & interface are very clean and very good style. Sex scene are very well paced. They are lot of them but you are not overwhelmed with them

    There are two things that I didn't like:
    One : Ahego faces are overused. In some scenes more natural and intimate face expression would have been more then enough
    Two : 50% of soundtracks hit well the mood while other half not so much. if support of the game increases, Devs could try to license betters tracks..

    And one personal wish. It would be great to make MC little bit more handsome on later stage of the game
  16. 5.00 star(s)

    Trenth

    Easily the best 3D game available on this website.

    Juggles incredibly sexy scenes and a variety of fetishes with compelling and likeable characters. A unique setting that leaves you dying to find out what new concepts and events are going to take center stage next.

    The production quality is top notch with detailed expressions and fantastic animations.
  17. 5.00 star(s)

    Ogre

    this game is extremely well written, clever, and smoking hot. The authors understand how to make characters and they understand how to draw and animate them. The love interests are three dimesional. And the sex is filthy.. I had no idea that a Honey Select game could be this good.
  18. 5.00 star(s)

    zapzero

    VERY strong storytelling for a porn title, that doesn't immediately throw your sleezy childhood friend under the bus and builds up the tension and reasons for each character.

    I'll describe it as a pesudo slave trainer game, that instead of management gameplay, follows the VN methodology with plenty of decision impacting choices instead.

    Models are great and while it hasn't reached my kinks, it does what it is doing perfectly fine.

    The little emotional reactions of the models are also top class. It's always the little things that separate the best from the rest.
  19. 5.00 star(s)

    R4ND0M USER

    This VN is a masterclass in the aspects of erotic, story, characters and setting.

    First things first as erotics is the most important factor for me in an adult VN. The sex scenes are top notch. Exceptionally well done in my opinion. I mean what can I say: The sex scenes have beautiful girls in them, hit all the right kinks, are well written, have story relevance, fit the setting and even bring forth character development. I think the descriptive writing and dirty talk dialogue needs extra praise. The language and words used to describe the action and visuals fit the tone of the scene, much appreciated. And most importantly, we get character motivation, internal thoughts and desires during sex scenes. This makes them so much better. To top it off, most, if not all sex scenes, are story relevant, make sense, feel real and are a tool to develop the MC and the girls. Chefs kiss.

    The Girls feel like real people in an adult VN should. Each has her own personality, strenghts, flaws and motivations and a good character arc as well as reasonable relationships with the people around her. The main girls also have good bonding moments ith the MC and each other. They feel like people and getting to know and fuck them is a blast.
    Ian is a dick but thats the point, I even feel kinda bad for the guy, smh.

    The story is original, well planned and fun. The weakest imo is the intro, since it feels a bit disconected and takes its time, but nothing too detremental. Once it gets rolling it got me good. I like hwo the girls were introduced and the active role the MC takes in the story, while the rest of the world still turns. The MC is part of the world not the whole world. Gives it a more realistic feel. I also ike the diversity of emotional depth the story offers. In my case the MC can basically live out his sadistic tendencies like he wants and gets rewarded for it. But there are still deep and cute moments, like with Felicia, Mina and Hana. I initially played for the darker themes like "slave" or "domination" but appreciated the normal relationship parts of the game almost the most.

    Give this one a try. Very nice story, hot girls and exeptional erotic content.


    What I wish for.
    I feel like the MC is still very tame, which makes sense in the story. I'd love to see him let loose a little. Maybe slap a girl once or twice. Not in a violent sense but erotic. Maybe choke her a bit. Nothing to extreme but I feel like most people would do some light slapping/chocking before they went to " face fuck her in the locker room and crash land your belly on her face while cumming in her mouth" ^^
    Also in the domination departement. The MC seems to only be able to be domineering situationally and on a shallow / superficial level. As the story unfolds I'd love to see the kind of domination that reaches an emotional level. Not like control through fear as Kat has over most girls, but rather power due to control. Something deeper, onger lasting that has to be earned. Felicia would totally not work in that kind of scenario, this would probably only be suitable for someone like Rosa, Veronica or some of the house girls. But maybe thats alost too dark and goes more into conquest"ish" / owning terretory.
    Oh and since week 2 has a humiliation theme maybe my arch nemesis, the magical face cleanser, could be put on break for a while. At this point its almost ridiculous. 3 gallons of cum get sprayed on a girls face, a mandatory -> fades to black transition -> face is spotless... how is that even possible?
  20. 5.00 star(s)

    Banque_route

    Hello, first review here, sorry for my english.
    I've played many but I wrote something now because Pale Carnation is a great story, maybe the best for now. For the first time, I have no awkward moment when reading it, it felt organic and relations between characters are beliavable. Finally, the MC is someone who is not dumb and generic and feel like a real person and caring for others (with good path).
    Lewd scene are so cool and has some usefull for the story.
    The thing I loved is that there is friends path with Hana, Mina and Ian, which feels real and entertaining.

    5 stars.
    My favorite character is Rose, here scene with MC are incredible.