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So not a decent guy at all then?
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- Nov 8, 2021
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He treats her well cuz he aint fucking her. The moment that he starts, that relationship changes tremendously
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in fact I think there is a good chance that Ian will fuck MC's mother, especially following a more perverted route, like treating Rosalind like a piece of meat, we always see scenes of MC's mother being fucked in his porn, this happened in the last scene of this route in the recent update.
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I see those scenes more as a way of adding some internal conflict for the MC, not as a hint for whats to come. The MC seeing flashbacks of the porn videos his mother was in during situations with Rosalind seems to be showing the similarities between their situations, and maybe a bit of hypocrisy for the MC.
From my analysis, Victoria doing porn in the first place is a window into how far she would go for the sake of her son, how much she is willing to sacrifice in order to make him have a good life. When the MC remembers how much of a shitter he was as a kid, its often in scenes where he also remembers the sacrifices she made.
We need to think in terms of how these characters are written and the relationships between them. As I see it, knowing what he knows about Ian, the MC would NEVER approve of Ian having sex with her, and Victoria would understand that having sex with Ian would be a major breach of trust. Also, despite being a complete idiot, Ian understands that the bond between the MC and his mom is very strong, and he values the relationship he has with the MC dearly (at least thats what I got from the story) he also knows that pursuing Victoria would irreparably damage his relationship with the MC, regardless of what path the MC is on.
Just because she did porn in the past, doesn't mean she wants to have sex with her sons best friend. Those two things are completely disconnected in terms of the story
I would not be so sure about that, esp. on the more positive paths and with high bromance scores. Edwin knows(!) that Ian is different from his usual behaviour when it comes to Vicki. That something along those lines might be in the cards on some paths is hinted at with what happens when we as the MC push Ian towards some introspection and planning for the future.
It is not his disco bunny Ian has with him these last nights, but Alice, who is also older than him.
i played this long ago.... female domination content at that time was only lesbian at that time..... any such content with mc ?
There's a small smattering of femdom-ish vibes with Veronica and Kat (the most recent update featured a nice Amazon press), but probably not worth your time if that's your primary interest in the project.
- Apr 26, 2017
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Not true.
This dating app profile is very likely the source of Victoria's casual sexual encounters she implied having in the latest update.
Seems to me your are setting yourself for some disapointment if you believe there is a possibility of Victoria having some romantical interest in this game, despite the developers already saying otherwise.
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I wouldn't say there are wrong choices, but there are multiple possibilities, the walkthrough can be useful to find and get them.
I'd recommend a blind play first before you look at the walkthrough, if have the time todo multiple plays.
AFAIK it was only set up a few weeks ago so it's unlikely to be for hookups given that she has been single for much longer. The context in which it was discussed with Edwin was related to her growing loneliness in part due to his absence.
From the comments I've seen the devs have been very clear about Victoria's role so far and that incest will never happen. I may have missed them discussing her future but the details appear to be ambiguous. The story itself has raised these questions surrounding her future so as a viewer it's fun to speculate regardless of the outcome.
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I am almost halfway through this game and I am sure there will be no action with mc's mom but do we get to have some fun with Ian's mom?
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I really hope we see more Vicky gangbang tapes in the future. There's something about a single mother making the ends meet the old fashioned way that really does it for me. It also helps that Vicky is the hottest girl in the game IMO. We know so little about her, and I guess it's the mistery and ambiguity about her that mekes her so interesting to me.
As for Ian and Vicky, their latest scene basically torpedoes the popular theory that they're getting it on. I suspect that Vicky is getting her rocks off by banging random guys from Tinder, as now she's got the time and space for it. She even mentions making a dating app in the beginning of the game, and I doubt Edwin's dissapproval would stop her from fucking other men.
I'd really love to see a glimpse into Vicky's present sex life, I bet she's into some freaky shit.
As for Ian and Vicky, their latest scene basically torpedoes the popular theory that they're getting it on. I suspect that Vicky is getting her rocks off by banging random guys from Tinder, as now she's got the time and space for it. She even mentions making a dating app in the beginning of the game, and I doubt Edwin's dissapproval would stop her from fucking other men.
I'd really love to see a glimpse into Vicky's present sex life, I bet she's into some freaky shit.
Veronica declining during the call is kind of an unfortunate case of story clashing with game design. From a story perspective it's fine for Veronica to say no and later call back, but from a game perspective, it makes sense that players feel they messed up the route and ask for help when they don't get a positive response from her.
This situation creates some confusion. Maybe something to keep in mind for future decisions in the game.
- Nov 11, 2022
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That depends...
The duplicity of people is very much one, if not the core theme of the game and you can see it in almost every character including the MC himself.
The smart scientist that mentors young people to get them a high education...who also owns a sex club and brothel.
The sweet and innocent young actress...who is secretly bursting with sexual curiosity.
The hard-ass biker and punk chick that seems to not be fazed by anything...who is internally totally distraught over the condition of her mother.
The wife of a judge who leads a women aid organization...who actually abuses that organization to exploit women.
The confident and prideful selfmade-woman...who actually ran her business into the ground and is full of self doubt.
And so on...and so on...
I mean the whole club is an example of the duplicity of society. Tons of "upstanding", high society people that would be pointed out as pillars of the community who in reality are degenerated pigs and in some ways utter lowlifes.
Yes, but this way the player also experiences the same surprise the MC does. I guess a lot of people (myself included) are playing these games very "goal" oriented with a mod or a guide to see as much content as possible, so those get called out by this mood-swing from Veronica a bit. While people that just take the decisions because they seem to them to be the right one or because they roleplay the MC in a certain way, have more from a switch like this.Veronica declining during the call is kind of an unfortunate case of story clashing with game design. From a story perspective it's fine for Veronica to say no and later call back, but from a game perspective, it makes sense that players feel they messed up the route and ask for help when they don't get a positive response from her.
This situation creates some confusion. Maybe something to keep in mind for future decisions in the game.
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I recall 1 consensual mix (femdom and reverse) event with MC, plus 2 or 3 choice-based femdom on MC events so far. Fair amount of MC-dom, with a lot of it also being optional.
Not "necessary" to play, but necessary to ensure you don't miss the content you want as there are decisions at multiple points that trigger branching content paths. Like the recent update the MC can be with Veronica or Rosalind, but if you choose a specific dialogue choice with Veronica, Rosalind is blocked without warning.
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Agreed. The structure of choices in VNs can often be very simplistic: players are often lead to rely on a sort of reward system, where every choice has an immediate consequence or reaction. In developer terms, a +1 on a variable, or a flag set (if you play with the aid of a tool like URM, you can even see this change before the choice is made, and act accordingly). This makes things easy to manage, both for players and authors... but it is utterly unrealistic.
If you slap someone in the face, you're can expect to have an immediate reaction. If you compliment, or even insult someone, you may have one... but you may not. People are not so simple. Think of an underhanded insult: the first reaction may be to laugh it off, but the effects may fester.
That's why I think Veronica changing her mind is brilliant. And while I don't advocate every choice of the game to be this convoluted, it makes the game less predictable and more complex.