Turret

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in what world would an abuser like ian make victoria happy?
I want her to be happy, but the friend character is a proven womanizer. I think she should find someone who is all in for her, not just someone who sees her as a milf he wants to fuck
In that you are not on the right track. Ian might be a womaniser, but it is well established that he treats Vicki differently.
 
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Takkatakka

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I had the crackpot theory, that they might already have an affair going on, but that was pretty much torpedoed in the last update, I guess.

I could see a path to write almost like something of a redemption story with Ian getting in a relationship with Victoria, like a "the only woman he ever really loved" kinda thing, but I doubt that is the direction the whole game is going.

Right now (and especially with the last update) Ian is actually portrait like a pretty decent guy and a really good friend as far as the MC is considered. But also as someone with a really bad side as far as women are concerned. They are pretty much nothing to him (with the notable exception of Victoria, who is probably far more like a mom to him, than his actual mother) and he's just using them to satisfy himself.
 

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In that you are not on the right track. Ian might be a womaniser, but it is well established that he treats Vicki differently.
he is still a cheater, also her SONS best friend, and roughly 20 years younger than her. It wouldn't work. there are plenty of other men who like Italian movies
 
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Idontplay

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I think the last update has put a gravestone on the hypothesis about the affair between Ian and Edwin's mother; just read their dialogue in the morning.
 

MilesEdgeworth

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In that you are not on the right track. Ian might be a womaniser, but it is well established that he treats Vicki differently.
He treats her well cuz he aint fucking her. The moment that he starts, that relationship changes tremendously
 
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probably a small chance, but hopefully zero. The mother character seems to be getting treated like more of a side character that's usually used to for the MC's development and the development of his relationships.
Unless its in a fucked up world where she decides she wants to betray the trust of the most important person in her life, I don't see the mother ever consenting to having sex with the friend.

Also, hasn't she been through enough? lets just let the woman be happy
in fact I think there is a good chance that Ian will fuck MC's mother, especially following a more perverted route, like treating Rosalind like a piece of meat, we always see scenes of MC's mother being fucked in his porn, this happened in the last scene of this route in the recent update.
 

shitass1001

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in fact I think there is a good chance that Ian will fuck MC's mother, especially following a more perverted route, like treating Rosalind like a piece of meat, we always see scenes of MC's mother being fucked in his porn, this happened in the last scene of this route in the recent update.
I see those scenes more as a way of adding some internal conflict for the MC, not as a hint for whats to come. The MC seeing flashbacks of the porn videos his mother was in during situations with Rosalind seems to be showing the similarities between their situations, and maybe a bit of hypocrisy for the MC.
From my analysis, Victoria doing porn in the first place is a window into how far she would go for the sake of her son, how much she is willing to sacrifice in order to make him have a good life. When the MC remembers how much of a shitter he was as a kid, its often in scenes where he also remembers the sacrifices she made.

We need to think in terms of how these characters are written and the relationships between them. As I see it, knowing what he knows about Ian, the MC would NEVER approve of Ian having sex with her, and Victoria would understand that having sex with Ian would be a major breach of trust. Also, despite being a complete idiot, Ian understands that the bond between the MC and his mom is very strong, and he values the relationship he has with the MC dearly (at least thats what I got from the story) he also knows that pursuing Victoria would irreparably damage his relationship with the MC, regardless of what path the MC is on.

Just because she did porn in the past, doesn't mean she wants to have sex with her sons best friend. Those two things are completely disconnected in terms of the story
 

Turret

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We need to think in terms of how these characters are written and the relationships between them. As I see it, knowing what he knows about Ian, the MC would NEVER approve of Ian having sex with her,
I would not be so sure about that, esp. on the more positive paths and with high bromance scores. Edwin knows(!) that Ian is different from his usual behaviour when it comes to Vicki. That something along those lines might be in the cards on some paths is hinted at with what happens when we as the MC push Ian towards some introspection and planning for the future.
It is not his disco bunny Ian has with him these last nights, but Alice, who is also older than him.
 

assman1337

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i played this long ago.... female domination content at that time was only lesbian at that time..... any such content with mc ?
 

RC-1138 Boss

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Just because she hasn't felt the need when other distractions were present doesn't mean it is off the table entirely. Setting up a dating profile implies some romantic intent.
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Not true.
This dating app profile is very likely the source of Victoria's casual sexual encounters she implied having in the latest update.

Seems to me your are setting yourself for some disapointment if you believe there is a possibility of Victoria having some romantical interest in this game, despite the developers already saying otherwise.
 

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Not true.
This dating app profile is very likely the source of Victoria's casual sexual encounters she implied having in the latest update.

Seems to me your are setting yourself for some disapointment if you believe there is a possibility of Victoria having some romantical interest in this game, despite the developers already saying otherwise.
AFAIK it was only set up a few weeks ago so it's unlikely to be for hookups given that she has been single for much longer. The context in which it was discussed with Edwin was related to her growing loneliness in part due to his absence.

From the comments I've seen the devs have been very clear about Victoria's role so far and that incest will never happen. I may have missed them discussing her future but the details appear to be ambiguous. The story itself has raised these questions surrounding her future so as a viewer it's fun to speculate regardless of the outcome.
 
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HarryJSON

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I am almost halfway through this game and I am sure there will be no action with mc's mom but do we get to have some fun with Ian's mom?
 

se20299

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I really hope we see more Vicky gangbang tapes in the future. There's something about a single mother making the ends meet the old fashioned way that really does it for me. It also helps that Vicky is the hottest girl in the game IMO. We know so little about her, and I guess it's the mistery and ambiguity about her that mekes her so interesting to me.

As for Ian and Vicky, their latest scene basically torpedoes the popular theory that they're getting it on. I suspect that Vicky is getting her rocks off by banging random guys from Tinder, as now she's got the time and space for it. She even mentions making a dating app in the beginning of the game, and I doubt Edwin's dissapproval would stop her from fucking other men.

I'd really love to see a glimpse into Vicky's present sex life, I bet she's into some freaky shit.
 

IndigoHawk

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You mean during the first phone call in the new update? That is normal, she'll call you back later.
Veronica declining during the call is kind of an unfortunate case of story clashing with game design. From a story perspective it's fine for Veronica to say no and later call back, but from a game perspective, it makes sense that players feel they messed up the route and ask for help when they don't get a positive response from her.

This situation creates some confusion. Maybe something to keep in mind for future decisions in the game. :unsure:
 

Takkatakka

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So not a decent guy at all then?
That depends...

The duplicity of people is very much one, if not the core theme of the game and you can see it in almost every character including the MC himself.

The smart scientist that mentors young people to get them a high education...who also owns a sex club and brothel.
The sweet and innocent young actress...who is secretly bursting with sexual curiosity.
The hard-ass biker and punk chick that seems to not be fazed by anything...who is internally totally distraught over the condition of her mother.
The wife of a judge who leads a women aid organization...who actually abuses that organization to exploit women.
The confident and prideful selfmade-woman...who actually ran her business into the ground and is full of self doubt.
And so on...and so on...

I mean the whole club is an example of the duplicity of society. Tons of "upstanding", high society people that would be pointed out as pillars of the community who in reality are degenerated pigs and in some ways utter lowlifes.


Veronica declining during the call is kind of an unfortunate case of story clashing with game design. From a story perspective it's fine for Veronica to say no and later call back, but from a game perspective, it makes sense that players feel they messed up the route and ask for help when they don't get a positive response from her.

This situation creates some confusion. Maybe something to keep in mind for future decisions in the game. :unsure:
Yes, but this way the player also experiences the same surprise the MC does. I guess a lot of people (myself included) are playing these games very "goal" oriented with a mod or a guide to see as much content as possible, so those get called out by this mood-swing from Veronica a bit. While people that just take the decisions because they seem to them to be the right one or because they roleplay the MC in a certain way, have more from a switch like this.
 
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i played this long ago.... female domination content at that time was only lesbian at that time..... any such content with mc ?
I recall 1 consensual mix (femdom and reverse) event with MC, plus 2 or 3 choice-based femdom on MC events so far. Fair amount of MC-dom, with a lot of it also being optional.
 
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