VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

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Maviarab

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Dessolos said:
Only a few thing I would add onto this when it comes to Ian's character. After Mina broke up with him I couldn't but feel that's when he realized how much he did like or potentially love her. To me the break up is what probably will be what changes him for the better. As after there was a few sex scenes with him I couldn't help but feel he wasn't happy and didn't care as much to be a womanizer but still does it since he has no one anyone he cares about. I may be totally wrong but that's just my take / addition but I do agree with everything you said.
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But surely then...on that hypothesis...he'd just not just use women for meaningless sex at all? There really isn't any self-restrospection in reality...he just an ass who thinks of himself. Surely if he realised what you think he does...he'd not have a woman over to use as an object for his own purposes.
 
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Maviarab said:
But surely then...on that hypothesis...he'd just not just use women for meaningless sex at all? There really isn't any self-restrospection in reality...he just an ass who thinks of himself. Surely if he realised what you think he does...he'd not have a woman over to use as an object for his own purposes.
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I didn't mean he'd stop cold turkey right away but just I think it is what will get to slowly stop over time. Again that's just the impressions I got from a few scenes with him after the Mina break up and probably wrong.
 
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Dessolos said:
Only a few thing I would add onto this when it comes to Ian's character. After Mina broke up with him I couldn't but feel that's when he realized how much he did like or potentially love her. To me the break up is what probably will be what changes him for the better. As after there was a few sex scenes with him I couldn't help but feel he wasn't happy and didn't care as much to be a womanizer but still does it since he has no one anyone he cares about. I may be totally wrong but that's just my take / addition but I do agree with everything you said.
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So far I haven't really seen that from him. It seems more like a
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The only woman he has real feelings for seems to be Victoria as a surrogate mother and so far I haven't really noticed any change in his behavior towards women.
 
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Takkatakka said:
So far I haven't really seen that from him. It seems more like a
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The only woman he has real feelings for seems to be Victoria as a surrogate mother and so far I haven't really noticed any change in his behavior towards women.
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Maybe im miss remembering but I wrote that post I was thinking about the scene when he was on the phone with the MC at night on the balcony. From what I recall it was shortly after the break up and he was asking about her alot. That was the scene that gave me that impression the most.
 
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Dessolos said:
Maybe im miss remembering but I wrote that post I was thinking about the scene when he was on the phone with the MC at night on the balcony. From what I recall it was shortly after the break up and he was asking about her alot. That was the scene that gave me that impression the most.
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I don't know...some of his dialogue could almost be read as him being relieved that it is over for the sake of Mina.
 
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Dessolos said:
Maybe im miss remembering but I wrote that post I was thinking about the scene when he was on the phone with the MC at night on the balcony. From what I recall it was shortly after the break up and he was asking about her alot. That was the scene that gave me that impression the most.
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Takkatakka said:
I don't know...some of his dialogue could almost be read as him being relieved that it is over for the sake of Mina.
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I think it's a bit of both. He can be regretful over losing Mina and happy for her that she's free of him. It shows he's not an unredeemable asswipe, aware that she's better off without him. While at the same time, he knows there could have been a different reality where he was a good boyfriend and they were happy together.
 
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Bill Temple said:
I think it's a bit of both. He can be regretful over losing Mina and happy for her that she's free of him. It shows he's not an unredeemable asswipe, aware that she's better off without him. While at the same time, he knows there could have been a different reality where he was a good boyfriend and they were happy together.
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Yes, at least he realizes that he was an ass to her and that she deserves much better. That is more than can be said about a lot of assholes treating their wives or girlfriends badly.
 
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Can some help me here.... how to play latest version of pale carnation in android?? .... It not playable and what is use of android data and where?? Screenshot_2023-10-25-14-09-39-69_18e1207022e3596a95b346f4ebdce8ed.jpg
 
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Anyone noticed how Abel and Sophia have the same name color and outline? Sophias outline is just ever so slightly brighter.
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I wonder what that means. No other 2 characters have name styles this similar.

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I swear I can fix her :HideThePain:
 
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DirtyMario said:
Anyone noticed how Abel and Sophia have the same name color and outline? Sophias outline is just ever so slightly brighter.
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I wonder what that means. No other 2 characters have name styles this similar.

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I swear I can fix her :HideThePain:
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They are a combo afterall..
 
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DirtyMario said:
Anyone noticed how Abel and Sophia have the same name color and outline? Sophias outline is just ever so slightly brighter.
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I wonder what that means. No other 2 characters have name styles this similar.

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I swear I can fix her :HideThePain:
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Hi! It is not only that which sets Sophia and Abel apart from the other side or characters of some importance.
- So far, only the most important characters showed on the scene switch wallpapers, Abel and more so Sophia, since she is the focus of the pic, are the exceptions.
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- Sophia, as cold and calculating she is, did not need to involve herself during the blue room "movie event". She could have literally sat it out, but she chose to get involved with the MC then.

- Coming back to your point about the similar style, there is a scene during "Abel´s home invasion" where he and Sophia have exactly the same posture and even look similar (obvious differences like gender/age aside). Might it be that Sophia is Abel´s secret daughter?
 
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