VN - Ren'Py - Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

  1. 5.00 star(s)

    Donjoe81

    Version: ch.4 update 1
    Rating: 4.5*

    Pros:
    Great Renders
    Good writing
    Good Story
    Nice looking Character Models
    Interesting Characters
    Great Sex Scenes
    Good Animations
    Good Music/Soundtrack
    Many fetishes
    Different paths

    Cons:
    The Story is interesting, but I don´t feel hooked to the Story like in other Games.

    The Sex Scenes are great and I like that there are pounding sounds, but the combination of pounding sounds and the lack of moaning sounds make the scenes feel a bit anticlimactic.


    All in all this is a great game that I can recommend and I will follow the game's progress really closely.
  2. 5.00 star(s)

    Max-SM

    Pale Carnations is such a different and distinct game, it is like a wild dream going on without stopping , something that is very considerable and significant
    I like games with different paths and when choices actually making differences and that is the case here.
    Characters depiction are stunning and ravishing , story is captivating and dialogues are touching .
    Definitely one of my favorites.
  3. 5.00 star(s)

    DeadlyEagle

    Overall played more than 4 times and the story is very good and interesting, the graphics are ok and especially the scenes are not repeated over and over again. The expansion also makes it nice to see how stats are affected by individual decisions.
  4. 5.00 star(s)

    Nav1

    Pale Carnations Critique
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  5. 5.00 star(s)

    cannonballrun

    excellent game! the gameplay, the girls, and the story is just perfect i hope it's gonna continue for a long time and kudos for the creator that maked this one my peepee is waiting for the new update.
  6. 5.00 star(s)

    slothen29

    Superb writing
    Superb art
    Incredibly sexy

    This game is beautifully polished and takes you on a dark journey. This game sets a new standard for the kind of storytelling that you can do in this medium.
  7. 5.00 star(s)

    Angelray

    The game is great:
    - excellent visual, and especially the main girls.
    - the girls have a unique personality and they are not empty of their quirks and flaws.
    - the story is interesting.
    - the sound design/music is right on the spot, even if not a main thing in the game.
    - the story seems rather interesting, even if "easy" on the player character.

    From this point, I don't see why this game wouldn't be a must play of the adult VN genre.
  8. 5.00 star(s)

    DDJohn

    Game with an intriguing story, great models (curvy, muscular, goth – basically whatever floats your boat), great UI for tracking relationships and bio's of every character you meet. Not a big fan of the MC's model, but the writing makes up for it. Relationships feel real, considering the circumstances. Quite a lot of scenes which won't make you blue balled. 4.7/5
  9. 5.00 star(s)

    Gucch

    Version: 4.1

    Best game on the site.

    No, I do not say that lightly. It just is.

    I'd stayed away from this one for a while, but boy am I glad I finally took the plunge. The writing is god-tier! It's really amazing the amount of effort the developers put into this. Every SINGLE one of the characters, including the wall dressings in the Club Carnation scenes, all act like real, complex people.

    It's just aaaarggh really difficult to describe . These characters are REAL. The main girls are all so perfect, I get conflicted when deciding who to spend time with. I love them all. Felicia and Hana are now both my best characters in any adult game ever, and Mina and Veronica easily come a close second. Everyone else is also second. They are all that good.

    Engine is old, but the developers do wonders with it. WONDERS. Half the time, I find myself staring at a scene, lost in the eyes of the girls.

    And the sex scenes? Hoo boy. Don't get me started. They are LONG, varied, and crazy satisfying. Three or so of them number among the best I have seen anywhere, including movies.

    I came into this game expecting a fun romp, and I am leaving with 5 waifus. Genius, I tell ya. Genius. I will follow this to the end of the earth. Don't drop the ball, Dev. This game will remembered forever.

    Oh, and in case it wasn't obvious, I rate this a 100/5. Really would break the rating just for this game if I could. Awesome work!
  10. 5.00 star(s)

    PussyDelendaEst

    Version: Ch4. Update 1

    Rating: 8.75/10 (4.5 Stars is what I would choose if possible)

    In Short: Wow... This game is something else. I have thought about how to describe it for a while now and all I can think of is "pure fun". It never gave that overwhelming swell of good feelings that you might get with other top titles and their stories (which is a shame, I prefer those) but all the way through I was just having a good time. Tons of sex and pretty decent writing (The game does a good job of letting you know other characters feelings too which is appreciated) There's also the start of a really good romance with a character if that's your cup of tea instead of fucking whores all the time :ROFLMAO:

    Other thoughts:

    Models are dated a bit but I hear this is an older engine and this game pushes it to the max. I really can't dispute this as when you see the animations they are great.

    Sex scenes tend to last a good amount of time also which feels nice. Whether its just for fun or the scene is meaningful to you, the extra time helps connect to the characters.

    The story for me is pretty standard but I see people raving about it. Perhaps it's due to the nature of the game setting? Whores don't really do it for me and all the moral thinking MC does bugs me a bit. But I would call the story interesting for sure. I still want to see where it goes. I'm just not enthralled in it.

    Music is solidly decent. I don't remember any standout tracks so it could be improved but the presence of it there was nice. Nothing to connect you with the characters though.

    Really liking the last LONG scene with Hana. She's my favourite LI and hopefully the content in the game goes on long enough for you two to have a meaningful relationship. There are some obvious twists in the future with her dad so that'll be fun.

    Conclusion:

    I really like this game if you couldn't already tell. I just can't call it a masterpiece up there with my favourites because I honestly didn't connect with any characters until the end of the chapter (Hana) I think in a story that's a pretty big requirement. I cared about Ian too but that's different, I'm tryna get some pussy here lads :ROFLMAO:

    I honestly think it deserves 4.5-5 stars though for doing something so interesting and unique, pushing the boundaries and still trying to put romance and other elements in there too. I much prefer romance in a story too over a harem so my 8.75/10 is based on that, I can easily see why people give this 9-10/10 if the "topic" interests you. - Don't be put off from this game like I initially was. Give it a try!
  11. 5.00 star(s)

    DivineMachine

    Great game, it really surprised me and I surprised myself, because I never played anything close to this theme, so it was quite disturbing at first.

    The story and characters are interesting and well written, love the dialogue and the choices, lewd scenes are nicely done and there is good variety. Also love the options to be more dirty or more vanilla in lewd scenes and outside of it - you are pervert, but you can be a pervert that isn't a total wacko and creep. I absolutely love the option to choose between fuck buddies or gf relationship with girls (at least Hana, not sure if it's same with Mina yet). I'm looking forward to see how gf Hana plays out and of course other girls, when I replay the game.

    One minor issue I have is the color of the narrative text. For some reason I find the yellow hard to read in many scenes. If there could be an option to change that color, it would be great.
  12. 5.00 star(s)

    Antoon

    I'm a writer (i only write in my own language, not english). The way you write a book is a bit different than a porn game, but they have couple things in common. First you flesh out the characters, how they look, think and how they will react to certain scenarios. Then you write the end of the story and if you're done with that, a beginning. You'll probably have a couple of scenes that you want in your story, write them out, only now you can begin. There's more to it and it's easier said than done, but this is the essence. It doesn't matter if you want the scenes in your story thrilling, sad, funny or in case of a porn game, hot and sexy, you'll have to do this to see it through the end and have at least a shot at being successful. I'm certain 95% of the porn game developers don't do this and their game ends up abandoned and unsuccessful. I'm pretty sure Pale Carnations at least did the first and third step, because
    the writing is great, the story is complementary and the scenes are hot as fuck (and it has some great animations). Just as it should be, in case of a porn game imo.

    (pardon my english, i'm too lazy to do any grammer and spelling checks right now)
  13. 5.00 star(s)

    -Yor-0728

    I played this game because I had a slight feeling that I might like it because of another game that has a pretty solid plot construction. And I must say that I loved this game, very good development of most of the things that it shows us.

    There were certain details that did not convince me or that I did not like and that is that there are moments when the protagonist, let's say, is taking a serious direction towards another person, from one moment to the next he stops being, not because he has calmed down, it feels as if I would never have been in that situation. Of course they are too small details and very few situations in which that happens.

    I think that the best thing that seemed to me in this game is that for you to reach +18, you have to go through many situations but that makes sense. That is, what I liked the most is that these erotic/sexual situations have a reason for being and that gives a touch of "reality" to the game in general, it is not like in other games that you just arrive and everyone already agrees to have intimate relations with you just because. This was the best of the game in my point of view.
    On the other hand, something that I want to highlight, where I could be wrong, is the modeling of the characters. I'm not sure, but I think the characters were made with Honey select or Ai selection. I'm not sure about this, but what I want to say is that most of the games that model their characters with these "programs" usually make them very average, that is, very mediocre, without so much detail, they simply create characters with boobs. , asses and that's it, if they add tattoos they make them so horrible that you say "what an ugly design". Well what I'm getting at is that in this game, the creator really took the time to design characters that fit their personality and that they look good basically, I mean, you don't see the "girl with tits" type as in all the games that are based on some of these "programs" to create characters, the creator really wanted to do something that is at the level of what his story brings us and something that we could enjoy visually.

    Summary:

    o Character Design/Visual: 5/5
    o Background music/sound: 4.7/5 (there are some moans)
    o Plot: 5/5 (excellent argument, I want to say something very well built and solid)
    o Animation: 5/5 (excellent animations.)
    o +18 Scenes: 5/5 (At the beginning you will find several erotic scenes, but as the game progresses it becomes more immersed in the erotic / sexual, so you will find a lot of +18 content)
    o Gameplay: 5/5 (a visual novel, which allows you to make decisions that DO matter throughout the game and not just for the scene.)
    Interface: 5/5

    (y)I really recommend the game(y), it is very well done and it is enjoyable. If I had to add something more serious, hopefully there is the possibility that in the future there will be a Harem route. anyway enjoy

  14. 5.00 star(s)

    grahz

    Incredible storyline. Definitely not your vanilla romp, this is a story about a exploitative sex club. There just the "right" about of writing and dialogue between scenes, it doesn't ever become excessively verbose.

    Updated review 1/4/23:
    This story gets better the further you go. I've restrained myself from playing through this too fast, because this experience is like an fine aged wine that you will want to savor.
  15. 5.00 star(s)

    skater555

    I always did wonder how this could sit as number 1 so many times, as i often dislike games where sex rather than story buildup is the focus, i just couldn't get myself into it, and decided to drop it.
    Now i finally managed to just do it, and i was so wrong about my sceptisism about playing, this game is great in everything, i found myself just fully immersed and entertained for hours on end. Now i dont doubt why this can sit as number 1 anymore, everyone should definetely give it a go! : )
  16. 5.00 star(s)

    nicerb

    Incredible game! The plot is a little extreme, I got scared of how much I enjoyed this. The art design is amazing! Is there a way to buy the game without using patreon?

    Recommend 10/10
  17. 5.00 star(s)

    pompurin

    Best vn I have ever played, by quite a distance. I could only wish it was longer, but progress seems to be at a methodic and steady rate, which is lovely to see. I would hate to see this project abandoned due to burnout or sth of the sorts
  18. 5.00 star(s)

    ryxp

    I first found this game because it was towards the top of the list for most highly rated/reviewed games on the site. At the time of writing this review, this game is the highest rated game on the site.

    I started this game a couple months ago, but was hesitant to try it for two reasons:
    1. I've played honey-select looking/DAZ modeled (I'm not 100% sure about the engine/system used here but THIS style) games before and even if the writing was okay, the animation limitations were a pretty big turnoff.
    2. Aside from a massive anal fetish, I've never been into anything BDSM oriented. It can even be a bit of a turnoff for me.

    Despite those two things, this game has easily become the favorite for me out of the ~30 or so porn games I've played from the site. Everyone is different, but for me, the reason this game is so amazing is because it's actually very believable despite the slightly cartoony looking models.
    -Models are unique and gorgeous
    -the CHARACTERS are dynamic. Most games fall miserably short here, and some do okay. This game does amazing with developing the characters. The best I've seen in a porn game. Details about real-life bands the girls are into or what their (believable) hopes and dreams are or why someone has the personality they do makes them feel more like real people than any other game I've played here.
    -The setting for the game is a fantastic mix of being believable (you know there's a high-end brothel like this in every major city around the world like NYC or Tokyo) and providing tons of opportunities for sexual content without the MC just inexplicably attracting every woman to drool over him. This leads to a plot that is about a hundred times more compelling than the fappable, but not very engaging usual for vn's: college age dude has sex with everyone in sight for little to no reason whatsoever.
    -Not everyone will notice this or care much, but for me this is a gamechanger: the music selection in this game builds immersion. It sets the vibe at the dance club, on exhibition nights, when at a girl's house, when having sex, etc. The music selection in this game is the best I've heard yet.
    -The game is made of many many stills, but when you get to the animations they are a treat! They tend to be lengthy series of events with high quality rigging/lighting/physics, etc.
    -A small one, but again adds to the immersion of the game: the modeled environments are beautiful and interesting.
    -edit: I almost forgot one of the most compelling parts about this game to me: the detail in social interaction is kind of amazing to me in this game. I play these games with cheats usually so I can make sure I don't miss anything and with these you can see what turns a girl on, but may upset her at the same time. The complexity and awareness of social dynamics is basically unparalled (although when I first played Being a Dik I didn't play with cheats so that game may come close in this department but I still don't think it beats all the micro facial expressions, body language changes, etc.).

    All in all, I felt I had to review this game. It's been much lighter on anal content so far than I would like, but in a non-porn world (which this game is modeling) that is more common in most modern cultures so I don't really have an issue with it! Again, it actually feels believable. The MC feels like someone I empathize and identify with rather than a slimeball or some 2D boring exaggeration of lust. Can't recommend the game enough.

    Animations: 5/5
    Models: 5/5
    Writing: 6/5
    Sound: 4.5/5
    (not much in game for sex sounds but music is exceptional)
    Sexual Content Variety: 4.5/5
    (personally I would love to see more anal, but what has been included
    is impressive and for non-anal obsessed people, it's a pretty easy 5/5)
  19. 5.00 star(s)

    throwaway1122

    This is the Nier Automata of AVNs.

    You came for the fap, but you're going to leave questioning if you are true to your own desires and the people around you.

    If you aren't seriously reflecting on your philosophy towards life after playing this, you're Killian, and no one likes Killian.
  20. 5.00 star(s)

    rippertipper

    Most AVN's can make me feel horny. A few AVN's can make me feel love. Only one AVN has made me feel HATE, and it is this one. No that isn't a bad thing, it's a wonderful praise for this title. A title that transcends the sums of its parts. At point of Review, Version Ch4.Up1

    Visuals or the Devil is in the Details:
    4.9/5
    First things first, the characters in this game all look distinctive from one another and the females are quite easy on the eyes. Pointed differences in colorations, silhouettes, outfits, and even facial expressions mean that even one-off extras are impossible to confuse for a different character. Which is always a solid start. However once you get into the game, you'll notice that the love, care and most importantly, direction, put into the character models is spread to all artistic aspects of the game. The backgrounds are highly detailed and even almost themed to subconsciously draw out certain emotions or feelings. From the posh red velvet and satins of the club's lounge and bar and its overly ornate decorations of it's furniture to the kitsch decorations of the MC's mother's house to the oh so wonderfully cliché (for a reason) post-modern minimalist yuppie loft the MC moves to. All of this works really well to create a level of immersion for the player as they step into the shoes of the MC. The adult scenes likewise use good work of angles, colors, and perspective to match the rhythm of the scene. The main LI's are all gorgeous and their appearance suits them, sometimes with devilish details meant to evoke resemblance to other characters, on purpose. My only criticism would be that all females seem to have a porn-star rack, but that is almost to be expected for a 3d AVN. so that is my -0.1

    Audio or How to Set a Tone
    5/5*
    Unfortunately many games don't have either the development time or direction to be able to select a BGM that properly fits and elevates a scene. Music, and audio in general, is usually something we don't notice that we notice but proper implementation can really drive home whatever feelings, lust or otherwise, the visual in front of us makes us feel. Sometimes something as small as a single sound effect can shatter your immersion into the game and quickly remind you that you are indeed where you are simply playing a game. On the flipside, good audio typically goes unnoticed as a component because when it does its job, it blends into the writing and graphics in front of you like salt on a steak. PC does a wonderful job of not only having a decent size library of sounds and songs, they typically are used to their full extent fitting in with the story beat. However there is one track in particular that sounds too much like a certain recently popular pop song that I despise and every time the track plays said terrible pop song gets stuck in my head, hence the asterisk on my 5/5.

    Writing, or how I Came for the Kink and Stayed for the Story
    5/5
    The meat and potatoes. Simply put, the writing in PC is transcendent. Some folks have a talent for writing hot smut, but some have a talent for writing. I think the later is true for the devs of this game. Little. Devilish. Details. Everywhere. Lesser writers will write excellent scenes that are held together by transitional ligaments. In contrast, the writing in PC feels holistic in a way. Even what may seem like simple transitions will sometimes remind of themes previously expressed and blend said themes with teasing of themes of the upcoming scene like blood flowing between two organs.
    The debauchery and decadence of the kinks shown in this game reflect sometimes too well the decisions the MC has made that put him in said situation. The game relishes the rhythmic dance between lust and empathy as you are consistently forced to choose whether or not to debase and strip away the humanity of these women in your care in order to help further their goals. Its a strange and unique dichotomy your are often presented with. Often times "helping" a LI involves corrupting them and guiding them to give in their carnal desires and relinquishing the discipline to stave off desire that separates man from beast. Hell, the game itself even brings up Maslow and plays with that theme constantly. This is corruption done correctly. Every time you give in to your carnal lusts or encourage another to give in to theirs, there is an emphasis upon how that affects said person's wellbeing psychologically. You are not allowed to forget your shame, you are liberated by it. You must revel in it. Your shame exists to enhance the pleasure of lust, rather than detract from it. Or at least, that's how I interpreted it. That being said, none of this would really matter other than to get you hot and bothered if the game didn't exquisitely demand your empathy with its characters.
    The Characters. The characters of this game are where the game truly shines. While a little suspension of disbelief maybe required(depending on your own life experience) to buy into some characters' motivations, the emotional investment I gave them, without realizing it(kudos), absolutely drove me wild. These characters are nothing close to caricature, and instead all have interesting backstories and lives that expertly enhance the situations you will find yourself in with them. You will empathize with them, you will desire them, you may even pity or despise some of them. From a technical standpoint, there is a variety of LI's and side characters for a variety of tastes and the main LI's are all excellently characterized to excruciating details that really bring them to life. This does an excellent job of emotionally manipulating the player in the best way when it comes to interacting with them. There is one character in particular that comes to mind from my experience. She didn't make sense to me, despite seeming quite a bit like multiple people I've had the misfortune of meeting before. This drove my curiosity to explore her path further. As I followed this woman's path and discovered more about her, I began to despise her more, which only served to fuel my curiosity and focus upon her. This eventually paid off in a scene where due to extreme kinkiness and debauchery, she peels away her "gold digging whore" (her words, not mine) façade and eventually reveals her true motivations and philosophy. Finally the nut had cracked and this LI showed a little bit of vulnerability. Normally the payoff in that situation is a feeling of sympathy or empathy or closeness. Instead I felt disgust. Disgust at a fictional character in a fictional setting chock full of terrible, awful people. This woman's philosophy and actions led to the direct result of her unhappiness and she's pointedly aware of that. So what does she do? Does she admit wrongdoing and open up to a different way of life? NO! She doubles down! Then she has the AUDACITY to leverage her power and station to drag you into her world of misery and hopelessness and depression by offering you her ill-gotten money! That, ladies and gentlemen, is the first time I've ever felt actual hatred for a fictional character. I quickly realized this fact and I was confused. I was perplexed. I loved it. Without realizing, the excellent writing of this AVN had gotten me so emotionally invested in it. Which given the previously stated themes of the VN itself, only served to compound the enjoyment I felt. No longer was I the MC being unduly influenced by the decadent and debauched. I was the player, being influenced by Art. All this because I wanted a kinky fap.

    Overall or tl;dr
    5/5.
    A steamy, depraved, and sexy romp through an engaging and addicting story filled with loveable, fuckable, and detestable characters. Resolutely one of the best adult visual novel experiences I've had the pleasure of playing. Given what is already here, I have no doubt it will be a masterpiece upon completion and I look forward to the continued development of this game. A little something for everyone.