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Ottoeight

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Can anyone recommend a Dev Console utility that works.

I've followed the instructions in the official walkthrough to use the Universal Ren'Py Mod from 0x52, installed the latest rpa, but using ALT+O as per the instructions does nothing.

Through trial and error I've found that ALT+M does bring up a console but as soon as try to use it, like searching for a variable, the game immediately crashes 'An exception has occurred'.

I have also tried the Cheat Mod listed on Post #1 of this thread - downloaded the rpa and placed in the correct folder (I think) but no idea how to run it - no instructions that I can see.
It is NOT an official walkthrough.

As far as I know, you need to unpack the game using Unren in order to be able to use the console.
 

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It is NOT an official walkthrough.

As far as I know, you need to unpack the game using Unren in order to be able to use the console.
Not quite, unpacking has nothing to do with it, it's enough to to set config.console to True, but using unren and choosing the "Enable Console and Developer Mode" option is probably the easiest way to do that if you're not familiar with renpy.
It's Shift+O not Alt+O though.
(Developer Mode is Shift+D and requires config.developer being True)
 

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Updated Android port. Nothing too fancy but let me know if you have any issues.

Version: Ch4 Up4 Public + Multimod by Shawnchapp

Appreciate my porting? Leave a Tip! You're supporting my efforts, paying for storage, and encouraging more ports!
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This unofficial port/version is not released by the developer, download at your own risk.

PLEASE don't reply, or @ me, or DM me for updates. I always update my ports, YES I ALREADY KNOW ABOUT THE UPDATE.

IMPORTANT Instructions:
1. Download the APK:

Pixeldrain
Mega
Size 684 MB

2. Install the apk and run it once.

If you are upgrading and you already have the RPA file you can stop here.

3. Download the RPA file:

Pixeldrain
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Size 2.472 GB

4. Move the RPA file to the game directory on your phone:
Documents/Renpy_Saves/com.estrada777.palecarnations/game
The file MUST be named: archive4.2.rpa

5. Restart the game and enjoy.

Updates are faster on .
Updated my android port.
 

Bill Temple

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Thanks, which configuration file is this in?
I usually use Unren to enable the console. It's only had a problem with enabling the console in only a few of the Renpy games I've used it on (Pale Carnations Ch4Up3 was one, but Ch4Up4 wasn't). When it does, just go to \[game folder]\renpy\common\00console.rpy around line 106 or 108 iirc and change config.console to True.
 

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I'm starting to think that the main reason Edwin got the job wasn't because Ian requested it but because Chuck was fascinated by Victoria (she saw how he looked at her and it made her uneasy) and wanted a decent chance at corrupting her / fucking her / fucking with her. We know he has a thing for sick games and what better opportunity than having her son being compromised and a perfect target for blackmail. I can imagine Chuck going to Victoria and saying: you will be available for our pleasure or we will destroy your son's career. I doubt she would refuse.

Being sick man that he is Chuck will organise a masked orgy where Edwin will fuck Victoria not knowing it's her, leaving everyone broken in the end, just like he did with that golf instructor.

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I'm starting to think that the main reason Edwin got the job wasn't because Ian requested it but because Chuck was fascinated by Victoria (she saw how he looked at her and it made her uneasy) and wanted a decent chance at corrupting her / fucking her / fucking with her. We know he has a thing for sick games and what better opportunity than having her son being compromised and a perfect target for blackmail. I can imagine Chuck going to Victoria and saying: you will be available for our pleasure or we will destroy your son's career. I doubt she would refuse.

Being sick man that he is Chuck will organise a masked orgy where Edwin will fuck Victoria not knowing it's her, leaving everyone broken in the end, just like he did with that golf instructor.

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I see no reason to think that. Chuck had years to set something up with Victoria after all, yet never tried anything (AFAWK). Moreover, what we know of Chuck's sick games suggest he's less interested in corrupting women than he is at humiliating them, apparently by literally beating them at their own game. If he wanted to go after Victoria, the last thing he'd do is go through the MC to get there. IMHO, obviously.

I think this is a case where the surface explanation is more compelling. We know Chuck cares about Ian, and I suspect that, like Grace, he recognized the MC as a tool that could break Ian out of his fuckboy rut - his plan was just a lot more effective since he is a much better manipulator and knows Ian much better than Grace. The fact that Chuck finds the MC mildly interesting in his own right sealed the deal.
 

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I see no reason to think that. Chuck had years to set something up with Victoria after all, yet never tried anything (AFAWK). Moreover, what we know of Chuck's sick games suggest he's less interested in corrupting women than he is at humiliating them, apparently by literally beating them at their own game. If he wanted to go after Victoria, the last thing he'd do is go through the MC to get there. IMHO, obviously.

I think this is a case where the surface explanation is more compelling. We know Chuck cares about Ian, and I suspect that, like Grace, he recognized the MC as a tool that could break Ian out of his fuckboy rut - his plan was just a lot more effective since he is a much better manipulator and knows Ian much better than Grace. The fact that Chuck finds the MC mildly interesting in his own right sealed the deal.
They will never give up, Won't they?
 
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I see no reason to think that. Chuck had years to set something up with Victoria after all, yet never tried anything (AFAWK). Moreover, what we know of Chuck's sick games suggest he's less interested in corrupting women than he is at humiliating them, apparently by literally beating them at their own game.
He's going to become a better porn star than she ever was.
 

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I'm starting to think that the main reason Edwin got the job wasn't because Ian requested it but because Chuck was fascinated by Victoria (she saw how he looked at her and it made her uneasy) and wanted a decent chance at corrupting her / fucking her / fucking with her. We know he has a thing for sick games and what better opportunity than having her son being compromised and a perfect target for blackmail. I can imagine Chuck going to Victoria and saying: you will be available for our pleasure or we will destroy your son's career. I doubt she would refuse.

Being sick man that he is Chuck will organise a masked orgy where Edwin will fuck Victoria not knowing it's her, leaving everyone broken in the end, just like he did with that golf instructor.
cinema at its finest lol

PS: did chuck meet victoria? what did he do to the golf instructor? can't remember

I see no reason to think that. Chuck had years to set something up with Victoria after all, yet never tried anything (AFAWK). Moreover, what we know of Chuck's sick games suggest he's less interested in corrupting women than he is at humiliating them, apparently by literally beating them at their own game. If he wanted to go after Victoria, the last thing he'd do is go through the MC to get there. IMHO, obviously.

I think this is a case where the surface explanation is more compelling. We know Chuck cares about Ian, and I suspect that, like Grace, he recognized the MC as a tool that could break Ian out of his fuckboy rut - his plan was just a lot more effective since he is a much better manipulator and knows Ian much better than Grace. The fact that Chuck finds the MC mildly interesting in his own right sealed the deal.
I think with chuck's games its like this: corrupting < ... < humiliating < feeling superior/powerful/in control

would fit with his words to abel that its always about power/ego (?)
 

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I see no reason to think that. Chuck had years to set something up with Victoria after all, yet never tried anything (AFAWK). Moreover, what we know of Chuck's sick games suggest he's less interested in corrupting women than he is at humiliating them, apparently by literally beating them at their own game. If he wanted to go after Victoria, the last thing he'd do is go through the MC to get there. IMHO, obviously.

I think this is a case where the surface explanation is more compelling. We know Chuck cares about Ian, and I suspect that, like Grace, he recognized the MC as a tool that could break Ian out of his fuckboy rut - his plan was just a lot more effective since he is a much better manipulator and knows Ian much better than Grace. The fact that Chuck finds the MC mildly interesting in his own right sealed the deal.
I agree that it is more probable that Chuck took Edwin into the boat to get Ian to "wake up" from his funk. Chuck cares for Ian and Edwin in his own way.

I think you underestimate the danger Chuck is representing. He is not just into humiliation, there were already too many hints in the game is a torturer at best, a murderer at worst. Remember, Dalia is deathly afraid of Chuck, Sophia, hardly a damsel in distress, but a dangerous woman of her own, finds Chuck scary. Chuck is obviously disappointed that even if he should ever win over Sophia at Chess, he cannot maim or leave anything permanent done to her since she is too useful, too good in her work. It is very clear that he did something permanent to his other victims.
 

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has dalia real tits - BUT FAKE LIMBS?? :eek:

;)

im very curious to find out what he did. enjoyed that chuck had screentime last update
Dalia, like Sophia, has her uses for Chuck and the Club. So he held back. It is rather clear by inference that e.g. his golf instructor was not so lucky.
I too am curious what exactly chuck does. As written in an earlier post, I think he is a torturer who maybe also kills the women where he does not need to hold back. Remember August´s talk with his friend Otto. He mentions that he´s worried about Chuck and Kath´s mental state and actions. That they get worse!
 
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I see no reason to think that. (...)
Obviously, hence I've literally said that "this won't happen of course". It triggered people though just as I thought it would :]. I'm neither an incest fan or Victoria fan and for me Victoria could not exist and the story wouldn't lose any of its quality. Her only purpose is for us to see that Edwin is fucked up in the head considering he's regularly watching porn with his mom in the movies.

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He is not just into humiliation, there were already too many hints in the game is a torturer at best, a murderer at worst. (...)
We know that Chuck isn't a fan of violence, he prefers more sophisticated methods of dealing with people. We know he "broke" some of the women he interacted with but we will probably never learn what he did because any explanation TD might come up with would be too far-fetched and unconvincing, hence it's vague like that.
 
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Obviously, hence I've literally said that "this won't happen of course". It triggered people though just as I thought it would :]. I'm neither an incest fan or Victoria fan and for me Victoria could not exist and the story wouldn't lose any of its quality. Her only purpose is for us to see that Edwin is fucked up in the head considering he's regularly watching porn with his mom in the movies.


We know that Chuck isn't a fan of violence, he prefers more sophisticated methods of dealing with people. We know he "broke" some of the women he interacted with but we will probably never learn what he did because any explanation TD might come up with would be too far-fetched and unconvincing, hence it's vague like that.
I agree with you that TD most probably wil only hint at what Chuck did, the own fantasy works better than descriptions sometimes, but I think you underestimate Chuck´s potential for violence. He is obviously disappointed that he cannot maim Sophia since she is too valuable, but for example the golf instructor was not.
As I mentioned before august is worried what happens in his circle and that Chuck and Kath´s deeds become worse.
 

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Dalia, like Sophia, has her uses for Chuck and the Club. So he held back. It is rather clear by inference that e.g. his golf instructor was not so lucky.
I too am curious what exactly chuck does. As written in an earlier post, I think he is a torturer who maybe also kills the women where he does not need to hold back. Remember August´s talk with his friend Otto. He mentions that he´s worried about Chuck and Kath´s mental state and actions. That they get worse!
In which scene is the golf instructor mentioned?

Since august in that scene with otto also mentiones that he has to go behind chucks back to deal with people violently I kinda assumed he means that chuck and kat start to lose it in regards to their passions. If that means extreme violence?

Maybe chuck DOES make a difference between using violence to solve problems and using violence for purely arousing reasons...

But I doubt it. Iirc there hasn't been a incident of violence against a woman in the game aside from the warren x prostitute hints - which where presented like a case of genocide. TD seems more interested in psychological sadism, so I would assume chuck is in that line as well.

Hope we find out. Chucks one of my favourite characters.

There is also still the unsolved mystery of jacobs blue eye, no?
 
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