I truly believe she is one of the characters who is wife material.Did you guys think that we have the chance to see a "fucked up" love path with Kathleen?
I truly believe she is the only character who is wife material.
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I truly believe she is one of the characters who is wife material.Did you guys think that we have the chance to see a "fucked up" love path with Kathleen?
I truly believe she is the only character who is wife material.
Some of y'all love stretching the age difference between these two. Since we're talking about realism at the moment, twenty years from 36 is not a senior citizen. You can maybe argue that 62 is a senior citizen, but retirement ages are rising as people live and stay fitter longer, so realistically 65 or 68 is senior territory nowadays. 56 year olds can be and often are quite active and healthy. Twenty years from 22 is 42, decidedly middle-aged. Twenty years from 13 is 33, so Rosalind's daughter has reached the age where she fully understands just how horny her mom had to be to shack up with a studly catch like Dr. Turner.Most guys probably wouldn't. Different (but similar) point, Rosa probably wouldn't favor Edwin either. There are certain social norms you just can't weasel around. She has to introduce you to the girls from her book club (basically, FRIENDS is what I mean), you have to introduce her to your mom and her friends etc. And in about 20 years Edwin is in his late 30s, Rosa is a senior citizen and you both got really weird looks all throughout your relationship. Rosas daughter has reached an age where she questions just how horny her mom had to be to catch herself a guy this much younger. Most people would not want to put up with any of that.
Yes sure it's a fappy game and milfs in a certain age range are hot. Whatever, but we're talking realism at the moment.
Every time I read that stuff I almost want to claw my eyes out.
I love you TD but jesus christ.
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I didn't write that particular instance, but point taken. 10+ years of eroge-reading has burned out my cringe reflex, but the porn parts must be constant agony for you.Every time I read that stuff I almost want to claw my eyes out.
I love you TD but jesus christ.
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I mean, age gaps can be a big hurdle to a relationship. Personally speaking, I'm 33 and the thought of dating someone 10 years younger than me is unappealing. Even taking account of my own arrested development, the gap between life experience and relationship expectations would likely be large. But that is a personal problem, and as you get older, a 10 year age gap means less and less.Some of y'all love stretching the age difference between these two.
He was not a loser. He was an abusive man and a gambling addict who beat her. She was in an abusive relationship. And that ugly Kathleen bitch cruelly pointed it out (to her and to Edwin).I feel like people here underestimate just how underhanded and vicious Rose is. She's not some beat junkie bimbo getting turned out to get her next fix, she's a mother who's trying to get her child and herself out of danger. A few weeks ago she was a typical repressed housewife in a dead marriage with a loser husband, and now her whole world's been turned upside down.
Are you really sure? honestly, I am not. Just think about what she tells Ian and Edwin.Much like Vicky learned to enjoy the gangbangs and humilliation once she let go of shame and inhibitions, so does Rose start to enjoy her own humilliation, and the little slave/master relationship she's fostering with Edwin, as evidenced by her lust stat. But just as Vicky let go of her porn career and returned to normal life unscathed, Rose will want to forget about the Club as soon as she cashes out, and resume her normal life. And at the end of the day Edwin is just another one of her tormentors, who's also good friends with Ian, who has extensively tested Rose out before she got the gig. I doubt Rose cares about Edwin's petty struggles that led him to the club, especially given the gravity of her own situation.
It depends on your gameplay, as the subtletly changing dialogues and Edwin's thoughts show.Much like Vicky learned to enjoy the gangbangs and humilliation once she let go of shame and inhibitions, so does Rose start to enjoy her own humilliation, and the little slave/master relationship she's fostering with Edwin, as evidenced by her lust stat. But just as Vicky let go of her porn career and returned to normal life unscathed, Rose will want to forget about the Club as soon as she cashes out, and resume her normal life. And at the end of the day Edwin is just another one of her tormentors, who's also good friends with Ian, who has extensively tested Rose out before she got the gig. I doubt Rose cares about Edwin's petty struggles that led him to the club, especially given the gravity of her own situation.
I think he wouldn't.Also, do you people actually think that Rose will let her daughter anywhere near a freak like Edwin, who's morally grey at best. I just think our boy Edwin shouldn't be surprised once Rose skips state after she gets the cash. The age gap is the least of their problems.
Now this is a story all about how, Rose's life got flipped, turned upside down..I feel like people here underestimate just how underhanded and vicious Rose is. She's not some beat junkie bimbo getting turned out to get her next fix, she's a mother who's trying to get her child and herself out of danger. A few weeks ago she was a typical repressed housewife in a dead marriage with a loser husband, and now her whole world's been turned upside down.
I don't think useful idiot is quite the word for this one. Edwin has chances to go out of his way for all the girls and Rose responds accordingly. You can certainly exploit her and see a more vicious side, but someone on YOUR side for getting a bit of breathing room on finances hits different when you're out of your league on an issue. Rose has extraordinary circumstances and was thrust into it. So how she sees Edwin is in relation to what he's doing to help her with a bit of this also overlapping with assisting all the girls in knowing each other while also having them compete. What was stated before was that Rose is adaptable and that's her greatest strength. Girl certainly knows how to use it.Edwin is very susceptible to Rose, due to his own mommy issues and with Rose being in the same situation Vicky was when Edwin was a boy. But I believe Rose only sees Edwin as a useful idiot out of who she can fuck favors and help. It's a shame that Rose doesn't know about Vicky's circumstances, or she would be able to manipulate Edwin much more effectively.
Still haven't gone through the new update but I think both Vicky and Rose are compartmentalizing what they have to do. We know there's social ramifications with Vicky but that princess is in an office castle so isn't quite dealing with her career. And no matter how much you cash this out, the ramifications and experience still hit you... We just don't know how yet.Much like Vicky learned to enjoy the gangbangs and humilliation once she let go of shame and inhibitions, so does Rose start to enjoy her own humilliation, and the little slave/master relationship she's fostering with Edwin, as evidenced by her lust stat. But just as Vicky let go of her porn career and returned to normal life unscathed, Rose will want to forget about the Club as soon as she cashes out, and resume her normal life. And at the end of the day Edwin is just another one of her tormentors, who's also good friends with Ian, who has extensively tested Rose out before she got the gig. I doubt Rose cares about Edwin's petty struggles that led him to the club, especially given the gravity of her own situation.
I'm not understanding this one... Rose MIGHT look into something short term with Edwin or she won't. It's really not up to us at this time. We gotta see how the story flows. But I do know that if Rose gets help on the debt, there's a certain gratitude to that. But seriously, I'd put this as highly speculative. I'll leave it at that.Also, do you people actually think that Rose will let her daughter anywhere near a freak like Edwin, who's morally grey at best. I just think our boy Edwin shouldn't be surprised once Rose skips state after she gets the cash. The age gap is the least of their problems.
She's pushing 90 bro. Your romantic path won't last longSeriously, no one is going to talk about the possibility of a romantic path with Kathleen?
you guys embarrass me with your narrow minds!
You guys look like a bunch of members of the Spanish Inquisition
Seriously, no one is going to talk about the possibility of a romantic path with Kathleen?
you guys embarrass me with your narrow minds!
You guys look like a bunch of members of the Spanish Inquisition
Statistics tell that the single largest commonality in divorced people in Western society is that divorced people have divorced parents.On the whole age gap.
The largest single commonality in future divorces is an age-gap. The closer in age two people in a relationship is, the less likely a divorce becomes.
So in the longterm it's unlikely it would actually work.
My honest feeling is that I would consider Rose getting rid of her debt and move away with her daughter a satisfying, good story end. Same with Veronica saving her gym and getting back with her wife. Felicia? I guess a really good Felicia ending would be Felicia getting a divorce and having her own children and becoming a painter in a distant future.A big age gap in a couple is more accepted in society if the older one is the man, even though women live a few years longer than men. But there are exceptions, even famous ones like a certain president of a top 10 nation.
I think an ending with Rosa is certain, now how it plays out I'm not sure but there can be a good ending. If you play her good path you may notice how she's looking at him
I think there are multiple things at play here. First and foremost its Rose's almost obsession about her daughter to the point it becomes almost questionable. Yes, taking good care for your kid is obviously commendable, important and the right thing to do, but for Rose it has gone so far, that she doesn't even know what to do with herself, when her daughter isn't around to be cared for. That is also the reason, why she immediately starts to take care of Edwin and/or Ian, whenever they are around.I feel like people here underestimate just how underhanded and vicious Rose is. She's not some beat junkie bimbo getting turned out to get her next fix, she's a mother who's trying to get her child and herself out of danger. A few weeks ago she was a typical repressed housewife in a dead marriage with a loser husband, and now her whole world's been turned upside down.
Edwin is very susceptible to Rose, due to his own mommy issues and with Rose being in the same situation Vicky was when Edwin was a boy. But I believe Rose only sees Edwin as a useful idiot out of who she can fuck favors and help. It's a shame that Rose doesn't know about Vicky's circumstances, or she would be able to manipulate Edwin much more effectively.
Much like Vicky learned to enjoy the gangbangs and humilliation once she let go of shame and inhibitions, so does Rose start to enjoy her own humilliation, and the little slave/master relationship she's fostering with Edwin, as evidenced by her lust stat. But just as Vicky let go of her porn career and returned to normal life unscathed, Rose will want to forget about the Club as soon as she cashes out, and resume her normal life. And at the end of the day Edwin is just another one of her tormentors, who's also good friends with Ian, who has extensively tested Rose out before she got the gig. I doubt Rose cares about Edwin's petty struggles that led him to the club, especially given the gravity of her own situation.
Also, do you people actually think that Rose will let her daughter anywhere near a freak like Edwin, who's morally grey at best. I just think our boy Edwin shouldn't be surprised once Rose skips state after she gets the cash. The age gap is the least of their problems.
Wow, you phrased my comment better than I did! Thank you for that. That's exactly what I was trying to say. Rose is by far the most unhealthy and toxic LI option for Edwin, both due to Edwin's mommy issues and Rose's parallels with Vicky, along with the fact that Edwin still hasn't fully come to terms with the duality of his mom being a "saint" and her porn career, which he noticebly struggles with during his interactions with Rose, and he unfairly projects many of his unacknowledged issues with his mom onto Rose, and he hasn't even begun to unpack his mommy issues.I think there are multiple things at play here. First and foremost its Rose's almost obsession about her daughter to the point it becomes almost questionable. Yes, taking good care for your kid is obviously commendable, important and the right thing to do, but for Rose it has gone so far, that she doesn't even know what to do with herself, when her daughter isn't around to be cared for. That is also the reason, why she immediately starts to take care of Edwin and/or Ian, whenever they are around.
A second aspect is that she - for obvious reasons - hates to feel indebted to someone. And I don't only mean the money she owes to the loan shark. It feels like whenever Edwin (or Ian) does something for her, she feels the need to give at least something back. A meal for example or just making them feel good through sex. For her sex is something she does seem to enjoy more and more, but it is also an easy way for her to pay someone back, even if that person just meant it as a favor and doesn't even want anything in return.
At least so far she hasn't really shown any deeper feelings towards Edward in my opinion and I don't think she has space in her heart for anyone but her daughter.
That said she won't skip state after all is said and done, since she explicitly stated she doesn't want to uproot her daughter (circling back to my first point, she is so obsessed with her daughter that she rather goes through the events in the club instead of inconvenience her daughter), but I don't see her and Edwin get into a stable and committed relationship at the end. At least not from the point in the story we're now at and if I interpret TD's comment right, not all the LI paths will lead to a "happily ever after".
I can see a happily ever after for Hana, Mina and it seems to develop for Frankie as well and probably an affair with Felicia (I mean she already is married), but with Rose? Even if she would be younger...right now I don't see a logical path to reach a ending in which here and Edwin are in some form of committed relationship.
Now this is a story all about how, Rose's life got flipped, turned upside down..
And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there...
I'll tell you how she's the Princess of a town called Bel-Air
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Wait, wrong theme song...
I don't think useful idiot is quite the word for this one. Edwin has chances to go out of his way for all the girls and Rose responds accordingly. You can certainly exploit her and see a more vicious side, but someone on YOUR side for getting a bit of breathing room on finances hits different when you're out of your league on an issue. Rose has extraordinary circumstances and was thrust into it. So how she sees Edwin is in relation to what he's doing to help her with a bit of this also overlapping with assisting all the girls in knowing each other while also having them compete. What was stated before was that Rose is adaptable and that's her greatest strength. Girl certainly knows how to use it.
Still haven't gone through the new update but I think both Vicky and Rose are compartmentalizing what they have to do. We know there's social ramifications with Vicky but that princess is in an office castle so isn't quite dealing with her career. And no matter how much you cash this out, the ramifications and experience still hit you... We just don't know how yet.
I'm not understanding this one... Rose MIGHT look into something short term with Edwin or she won't. It's really not up to us at this time. We gotta see how the story flows. But I do know that if Rose gets help on the debt, there's a certain gratitude to that. But seriously, I'd put this as highly speculative. I'll leave it at that.
My honest feeling is that I would consider Rose getting rid of her debt and move away with her daughter a satisfying, good story end. Same with Veronica saving her gym and getting back with her wife. Felicia? I guess a really good Felicia ending would be Felicia getting a divorce and having her own children and becoming a painter in a distant future.
I don't see why I should consider Edwin starting a stable relationship with a Carnation as the only good Carnations' endings.
I honestly think that the biggest problem with these Patreon funded non-hentai erotic VNs is that hentai tropes totally ruined most of them: why is an erotic/porn story supposed to end with its MC starting a stable relationship with a woman?
Hi!I think there are multiple things at play here. First and foremost its Rose's almost obsession about her daughter to the point it becomes almost questionable. Yes, taking good care for your kid is obviously commendable, important and the right thing to do, but for Rose it has gone so far, that she doesn't even know what to do with herself, when her daughter isn't around to be cared for. That is also the reason, why she immediately starts to take care of Edwin and/or Ian, whenever they are around.
A second aspect is that she - for obvious reasons - hates to feel indebted to someone. And I don't only mean the money she owes to the loan shark. It feels like whenever Edwin (or Ian) does something for her, she feels the need to give at least something back. A meal for example or just making them feel good through sex. For her sex is something she does seem to enjoy more and more, but it is also an easy way for her to pay someone back, even if that person just meant it as a favor and doesn't even want anything in return.
At least so far she hasn't really shown any deeper feelings towards Edward in my opinion and I don't think she has space in her heart for anyone but her daughter.
That said she won't skip state after all is said and done, since she explicitly stated she doesn't want to uproot her daughter (circling back to my first point, she is so obsessed with her daughter that she rather goes through the events in the club instead of inconvenience her daughter), but I don't see her and Edwin get into a stable and committed relationship at the end. At least not from the point in the story we're now at and if I interpret TD's comment right, not all the LI paths will lead to a "happily ever after".
I can see a happily ever after for Hana, Mina and it seems to develop for Frankie as well and probably an affair with Felicia (I mean she already is married), but with Rose? Even if she would be younger...right now I don't see a logical path to reach a ending in which here and Edwin are in some form of committed relationship.
I'd consider those scenarios to be good, satisfying endings, but I wouldn't consider Rosalind, Veronica or Felicia to be Love Interests in them. They'd effectively be side-girls writ large: someone we can have sex with during the game, but not someone we can ride off into the sunset with. I don't think that distinction has anything to do with Patreon funding.My honest feeling is that I would consider Rose getting rid of her debt and move away with her daughter a satisfying, good story end. Same with Veronica saving her gym and getting back with her wife. Felicia? I guess a really good Felicia ending would be Felicia getting a divorce and having her own children and becoming a painter in a distant future.
I don't see why I should consider Edwin starting a stable relationship with a Carnation as the only good Carnations' endings.
I honestly think that the biggest problem with these Patreon funded non-hentai erotic VNs is that hentai tropes totally ruined most of them: why is an erotic/porn story supposed to end with its MC starting a stable relationship with a woman?
Well, expecting the protagonist of a VN being somewhat involved with the Love Interests in their dedicated endings is not something unreasonable, I think. And in any case, there are a lot of different ways in which the scenarios could play out. Even in the world of hentai VNs there are a lot of different examples that could be drawn upon.My honest feeling is that I would consider Rose getting rid of her debt and move away with her daughter a satisfying, good story end. Same with Veronica saving her gym and getting back with her wife. Felicia? I guess a really good Felicia ending would be Felicia getting a divorce and having her own children and becoming a painter in a distant future.
I don't see why I should consider Edwin starting a stable relationship with a Carnation as the only good Carnations' endings.
I honestly think that the biggest problem with these Patreon funded non-hentai erotic VNs is that hentai tropes totally ruined most of them: why is an erotic/porn story supposed to end with its MC starting a stable relationship with a woman?
It is an overwhelming inspiration, yes.Also, given that TD has often stated hentai games are a big inspiration, this is an odd place to complain about hentai tropes derailing a game.