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Eyyy, finally someone shares my opinion about this scene :Kappa:
I'm actually kinda with you there myself, it's one of those things I'd cut if we ever remastered that part of the game. Sure she's kinda begrudging about it, with Ian lording the club thing as a far, but in light of how close her relationship with Mina is characterized in later parts of the game it doesn't feel like "her" when I read it now.
 

DarkLords00

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I'm actually kinda with you there myself, it's one of those things I'd cut if we ever remastered that part of the game. Sure she's kinda begrudging about it, with Ian lording the club thing as a far, but in light of how close her relationship with Mina is characterized in later parts of the game it doesn't feel like "her" when I read it now.
Yeah, I feel pretty much the same regarding the scene. Now that I remember, I think we discussed this briefly before xD

Anyways it's just like you said it comes off as odd in retrospect if you take into account how close Felicia and Mina are portrayed later in the story and I doubt Felicia (as portrayed later) would risk hurting Mina like that over pretty much nothing since I find it hard to believe she would think Ian has the power to prevent her for audiotioning for The Club if you take the scene in isolation it's ok considering Felicia stops it before it gets too wild.
 
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Maccabbee

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Didn't know the MC was married, nor does that excuse fucking your best friend's boyfriend in the other room. Both are worth criticism, if I might say. But maybe that's just me.
It's not just you, but this isn't a normal marriage, it's basically a job for her to be his wife. A contractual arrangement, as it were. It's not matrimonial bliss.

I also didn't fuck Felicia in that scene, and I am not even fuckbuddies with Mina at that point, as I was all-in with Hana (though I wish I had gotten the threesome path with Mina and Hana, I couldn't resist my sweet goth rockergirl).

I did fuck Felicia in other scenes, as well as the other carnations, but that's work.

By the way, if our job includes performing sex acts on Carnations, we are the whores, right? The carnations are not being paid, they're basically in a sexual gameshow. They are fucking and doing other sick shit for a prize. Sexual Survivor or whatever. Ian and the MC are the whores, who's job it is to do what's required.
 

GamingSavant

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It's not just you, but this isn't a normal marriage, it's basically a job for her to be his wife. A contractual arrangement, as it were. It's not matrimonial bliss.

I also didn't fuck Felicia in that scene, and I am not even fuckbuddies with Mina at that point, as I was all-in with Hana (though I wish I had gotten the threesome path with Mina and Hana, I couldn't resist my sweet goth rockergirl).

I did fuck Felicia in other scenes, as well as the other carnations, but that's work.

By the way, if our job includes performing sex acts on Carnations, we are the whores, right? The carnations are not being paid, they're basically in a sexual gameshow. They are fucking and doing other sick shit for a prize. Sexual Survivor or whatever. Ian and the MC are the whores, who's job it is to do what's required.
I forget where it is, but Edwin does get that epiphany of "(Wait. Does that mean I'm just a discount Carnation?)" when it came to how he'd probably have to act on stage to help entertain the guests.
 

bonerland

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Not to sound like a broken fucking record, but if you're playing this game and fucking more than one girl, and who isn't, then you're a slut, too. Why criticize a woman for something you're willing to do yourself?

And Mina might not be a slut yet, but she sure wants to be.
Not sure why you included me in that, I wasn't being critical of anyone.
 

Ozymandias037

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I guess I know who's winning this Carnation thing without even continuing. Hard to beat a slut like this one lol.
The player gets a fair bit of influence on who wins each round of the competiton. So if Felicia wins, that's to some extent on you. ;)

Didn't know the MC was married, nor does that excuse fucking your best friend's boyfriend in the other room. Both are worth criticism, if I might say. But maybe that's just me.
It's not the MC who is married. He is a single medical student. But Felicia is, definitely.

Oh yes, because it doesn't make sense for the developer of this game to make you build all these connections with the girls just to send them to get gangbanged in the end. That's why I asked if it was definite, because if it was, I was out.
There are at least a few people here who assume this will happen, but there is absolutely no confirmation of this in the game nor from the developers (so far). It is mentioned, as others have said, that the previous year's competition involved such an event, but there's no reason to assume it will necessarily happen again.
 

Maccabbee

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The player gets a fair bit of influence on who wins each round of the competiton. So if Felicia wins, that's to some extent on you. ;)



It's not the MC who is married. He is a single medical student. But Felicia is, definitely.



There are at least a few people here who assume this will happen, but there is absolutely no confirmation of this in the game nor from the developers (so far). It is mentioned, as others have said, that the previous year's competition involved such an event, but there's no reason to assume it will necessarily happen again.
Hey, man, this is not a typical waifu romance game. I don't think anyone, Carnation or not, is safe from what these wonderful perv devs can do to them. Judging by the three owners of the club and their as bad associates, the coup undercurrents, some of the more awful staff and guests, shit can get real. Why you wouldn't think the sexual decadence of the past exhibitions wouldn't recur or be exceeded seems an almost delusional daydream. They have to give their guests a show, or why would they still keep coming? Spectacles only get more so. This is definitely not a game for someone that can't deal with extreme shit happening to LIs.
 

lustforsex

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Hey, man, this is not a typical waifu romance game. I don't think anyone, Carnation or not, is safe from what these wonderful perv devs can do to them. Judging by the three owners of the club and their as bad associates, the coup undercurrents, some of the more awful staff and guests, shit can get real. Why you wouldn't think the sexual decadence of the past exhibitions wouldn't recur or be exceeded seems an almost delusional daydream. They have to give their guests a show, or why would they still keep coming? Spectacles only get more so. This is definitely not a game for someone that can't deal with extreme shit happening to LIs.
Probably because there are new variables in the equation this time: Kathleen, who is ready for a major loss, Abel Van Doren and his hints that something might happen at the club, as well as the fact that Edwin might use his "harmlessness" (how others see him) for his own purposes, Elias's appearance at the next exhibition and perhaps most importantly - Edwin's very presence this time.

Personally, I am not under any illusion that this time everything might go differently than in previous shows. But at the same time, thinking that everything will definitely repeat itself is also stupid. I think many people want current summer exhibition to develop in the same old footsteps and that is normal. It's not normal to think only that our actions can't somehow influence this. The development of events can go in different ways depending on our actions.

In any case, whatever happens in the game, I will accept it and won't turn into another troll who creates dozens of new accounts and spills his nonsense on the forum :ROFLMAO: This is the creation of TD and GIL, they have the right to do what they want and I won't stop respecting them, although I don't exclude the possibility that I may be disappointed. Still, I understand what thread I am in and it will be only my problem if everything doesn't go as I would like.
 

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Probably because there are new variables in the equation this time: Kathleen, who is ready for a major loss, Abel Van Doren and his hints that something might happen at the club, as well as the fact that Edwin might use his "harmlessness" (how others see him) for his own purposes, Elias's appearance at the next exhibition and perhaps most importantly - Edwin's very presence this time.

Personally, I am not under any illusion that this time everything might go differently than in previous shows. But at the same time, thinking that everything will definitely repeat itself is also stupid. I think many people want current summer exhibition to develop in the same old footsteps and that is normal. It's not normal to think only that our actions can't somehow influence this. The development of events can go in different ways depending on our actions.

In any case, whatever happens in the game, I will accept it and won't turn into another troll who creates dozens of new accounts and spills his nonsense on the forum :ROFLMAO: This is the creation of TD and GIL, they have the right to do what they want and I won't stop respecting them, although I don't exclude the possibility that I may be disappointed. Still, I understand what thread I am in and it will be only my problem if everything doesn't go as I would like.
Kathleen has hinted at making moves to have more control over the club by pushing Hana to partial ownership and replacing August, then having Hana relent that to Kathleen so she has higher influence. She's also been super forward with getting Edwin and Hana together because if she can control Edwin, she can indirectly influence Hana's decisions as well because Hana starts falling in love with him.

All 3 co-owners have shown their hand on wanting to groom a successor to replace them since they're getting old and can't manage the club forever. August sees it as a fine opportunity to pass it on to his estranged daughter that he's trying to reconnect with, Chuck wants to help Ian replace him but seems to be okay with Edwin doing so as well, and Kathleen sees Edwin as a kindred spirit and someone who can take over the Exhibitions when she finally leaves.
 
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lustforsex

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I think TD can put all his money in the casino today. If not now, then when? :sneaky:
Mommy issue much? :ROFLMAO:

Hana is the best match for any man, so is Mina and Felicia (unless you're a prude or puritain).
V is the best match for any girl, tho.
They can't compare with this beauty:
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Turret

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Sophia is the best match for Edwin.
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You called upon me, what is your desire?;):)

Mommy issue much? :ROFLMAO:

Hana is the best match for any man, so is Mina and Felicia (unless you're a prude or puritain).
V is the best match for any girl, tho.
What mommy issues? Sophia is hardly an ersatz milf like Vicki and Rosi are. While older than Edwin, she is the youngest of the "grown up LI" faction. It should also not be underestimated how well they can connect with the other. Edwin asks himself why he can talk so easily with Sophia, even without the drug´s influence. They talk about things they normally would not do with others. Sophia´s genius comes coupled with eccentrism, she is hardly a honey trap.
Take a look at Sophia and Edwin, two nerds with various amounts of eccentrism. That is definitely a fit!

Besides that, Hana and Felica are a great match for Edwin. Mina, Dalia and Andrea follow. I would put Veronika and Rosi last without doubt.
 

Turret

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Yes and no. The great part of Kathleen's pyscho-acceptable (that is, she is "our" psychopath) is that she can provide reasonable and valid arguments, while at the same time she can take a loss without making a fuss.
Removing August as a partner in favour of Hana means a couple of things, some of them are bad for the club: August is the Fixer, and while he resorts to illegal and violent means more often than not, he's quite correct in that an imperfect (as in violent, here) and fast solution is usually better than a perfect, yet late one (kinda military motto, btw). August, however, is not going to stop protecting the club, because it's Hana's "future", so Hana having August's part is perfect for Kathleen, because she can "leak" what she considers to August instead of having him there with a direct eye in the club.
In that regard, Kathleen is very unlikely to buy Hana's part (regardless of the issue of having the money!), but her reasoning would be "I'll keep her as long as possible", meaning "corrupt" Hana... which incidentally would be in line with August's wishes for Hana to "inherit" the whole of the family business.
But if needed, Kathleen may look for other investors that would buy Hana's part too. Ones she can control somehow. Or maybe by that time it's irrelevant since she is too old for keeping the pace.

As for the "grooming the next generation", the small problem here would be that Dr. Chuck will retire when he's dead (or with too many health problems to partake in certain excitements, and even so he looks to me like the one that will keep meddling until he dies or has a stroke), and that his "heir" would be Edwin (who seems to be more capable and determined than Ian, something coherent with having to claw his opportunities from fate, unlike "silver spoon" Ian who is so contrarian he doesn't even want to study photography... at least unless he discovers that, after bribing Edwin, his mother tried to blackmail Vicky).
TLDR, I think both Kat and Chuck don't really wanna leave, but making it look like they may spices things up, which is the sole purpose of the club.
Interessting argumentation! The only problem with this I see is that it is a side theatre for Kath. Her desire is clearly becoming the sole head honcho of the Club. That is one reason she got Abel and Sophia involved. Kath´s biggest problem with herself is that as a card carrying sadist, her desire for more and more influence, even when all is well for her, is pushing her to this gamble.(This is a mental thing most sadists exhibit) She definitely does not get that Abel and Sophia are helping her now because she is one way into the club. The two doctors have plans for the club which do not include any of the current leadership remaining.
 
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