VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.5 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Ungawa]

A lot of correct observations. Still, when you go by their personalities, the probably best outcome would be a win by Felicia! Feli is actually one of the nicest characters in the cast, winning would give her the own money/influence to save her school, which is the main reason she is at PC in the first place. Felicia also gives, if you choose so, Rosi the money to calm the loan sharks, despite they are competitors. If Feli wins and has halfway good relations with Rosi, I am sure a goodsih Edwin could convince Felicia to give her enough money to get the loan sharks off Rosi´s back. (Rosi might still be "moonlighting" at PC in the future even on a good Edwin run, but that would be Rosi-specific choices)
Maybe Felicia would give Veronika some money to save her gym, but only maybe. Not only is the amount of money needed a lot higher than that for Rosi, Samson has to brought to let his obsession with Veronika go, but the main problem here is that Veronika and Felicia dislike the other. Felicia is a proven nice person, but like with everybody, there are borders how far you go.

It's certainly part of it, but we do have to look at what the game has given us as a result:

The Rosi deal fell through when you have to pull from club resources to get it resolved ultimately.

Felicia wants power and if she gets into "Da Club" she has social access. But what's the cost? She's a member but you've seen the lion's den she's in. How does SHE utilize what's she's coveted?

What we're seeing is that Felicia might be wanting to do things with her own power, but still relying on others. Sure, she can get Samson to let go of his obsession but it might backfire to targeting her instead. Felicia needs the power (and to an extent, the confidence) to do things herself. Create and build her OWN base, not just a network. She can certainly get away with building a talent agency or art house which could be, but she's looking into a dark void which might not be what she wants in the end. Such is the power of chasing what she perceives as good and easy if she wins.

And Felicia and Veronica certainly start off on the bad foot but seeing as how Felicia would eat that clam chowder if given half a chance right along with Veronica is the largest perv, they have quick ways to amend that bridge.

 

[Ottoeight]

We will see what the Authors have in store for the characters. Whatever it is, I'm sure it will be juicy.

 

[MaxRichard]

I made a Cheat mod for This Masterpiece game and decided to share it. It's based on Scrappy's CheatMod. So thanks for giving me the green-light to use his cheatmod as a base. And Many thanks to wurg for helping and guiding me.

Note: The Cheatmod should work with the future updates, unless the Dev Add or Change variables.

(I tested the cheat mod on the Public update and it works well without any issues.)​

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Does the CheatMod also include a walkthrough? If not, is it compatible with the WT mod linked in the OP?

 

[pinuz1]

While we wait on the next update I want to ask this to all the people reading:

I think it's safe to assume that based on our choices we'll be able to determine which Carnation will win the competition, Who will you give the victory to?

Im like 100% sure I'll make Veronica win, I think she's the one that "deserves" it the most and I do like her quite a bit, my favorites are definitely Mina and Hana, and if I had to choose 1 of the carnations I'd say Felicia is my favorite when it comes to the porn, but she's definitely the one that needs it the least in my opinion, even if she loses she'll live a decent life, the tough choice is between Vero and Rosalind, and I'd agree if someone tells me Rosa needs the money more, problem for me is that she's the girl I like the least, so I think I will try to make Veronica Win.

I'd like to believe the dev will still make out a ending where every girl can be "Happy" even if they lose tho, It'd be soul crushing if they don't.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

While we wait on the next update I want to ask this to all the people reading:

I think it's safe to assume that based on our choices we'll be able to determine which Carnation will win the competition, Who will you give the victory to?

Im like 100% sure I'll make Veronica win, I think she's the one that "deserves" it the most and I do like her quite a bit, my favorites are definitely Mina and Hana, and if I had to choose 1 of the carnations I'd say Felicia is my favorite when it comes to the porn, but she's definitely the one that needs it the least in my opinion, even if she loses she'll live a decent life, the tough choice is between Vero and Rosalind, and I'd agree if someone tells me Rosa needs the money more, problem for me is that she's the girl I like the least, so I think I will try to make Veronica Win.

I'd like to believe the dev will still make out a ending where every girl can be "Happy" even if they lose tho, It'd be soul crushing if they don't.

No cows or amazonion wildlife on my ranch, no sir! Only buxom blondes!

 

[TD1900]

Driving oneself into a corner is arguably a want of purpose. Veronica's the 80s hardbody+tough/dominant anime waifu archetype. For me Hana is the only realistic character. Her straight-edge bullshit genuinely annoys me because I know people like that. And her motivations are intelligible which is probably why they don't seem to trigger as many thesis-length effortposts.

I wasn't using humanized as a 1:1 synonym for realistic there. The whole cast skews larger than life if you put it kindly, and clichéd if you're not. It's a scenario where one of the villains routinely goes "bahahaha." However, I do think each of the heroines have nuggets of relatability, and of Veronica in particular, I find her brand of "unintelligible" motivation to be distinctly sympathetic especially since they're easy to scrutinize - which is what I like to believe is why she's so polarizing in discussions. She's a character that refuses to see reality out of a combination of fear and ego, holds desperately onto the "last thing" she has, and whose identity and self-esteem is wrapped up in unhealthy worldy markers. A lot of we deserve better. That we are better.

None of which is ground breaking stuff that plays against archtype, but I said most humanized (and, of the Carnations).

 

[TM | Twisted Games]

The characters are certainly heightened to some degree, and a modicum of porn logic is necessary if you want a story with good porn, but I reject the premise that any of their actions are unintelligible. Even the ones who I think are being really dumb (Felicia) are acting in ways entirely realistic and consistent with the world that exists around them in the story.

 

[agrdtcwa]

The ugly bastards are the most realistic. Bunch of perverted rich old freaks who screw over girls for their entertainment? Can't get more realistic than that. Join the dark side and screw everyone over.

While we wait on the next update I want to ask this to all the people reading:

I think it's safe to assume that based on our choices we'll be able to determine which Carnation will win the competition, Who will you give the victory to?

I will either make everyone lose or make Rose win. I am most sympathetic towards Rose. Her situation is by far the worst of the bunch. If I had to pick a carnation as the winner it would be her. She stayed in her marriage longer than she should have but when you have kids, you want to desperately avoid divorce for the sake of the kid. I am most sympathetic towards her by a wide margin.

Veronica is there mostly because of her ego. Samson fucked her over but she ended up ruining her marriage and does not know when it is better to quit and move on. I think she has options outside the club but deliberately chooses to cling to her business because of ego rather than desperation.

And I think Felicia is just being stupid. In veronica's case at least it is not fully her fault. Felicia willingly signed up to be a trophy wife to someone who does not give a crap about her and when faced with the consequences of her actions she goes ahead and does something even more stupid. It is like watching someone sabotage their own life.

 

[Ottoeight]

Well, I'm definitely rooting for Rosalind and I'm making her win the "contest" in my saves.

Anyway, I'll tell you that whenever the storyline branches I play every different sub-branch. It is worthwile.

 

[strangelandQQ]

If choosing purely out of my personal preferences, I'd give Veronica the win at the show.

If reasoned out of context, based on feelings and empathy, Rosalind should win. Not only is she threatened by gangsters, she's also a direct reference to Edwin's mother.

But I'd rather wait until I see the whole picture. Currently there are two metrics in the game, the essence of which is not clear yet - Hana's anger and Felicia's confidence. Add to that the opportunity to find out about Veronica's problems with her gym, with the goal of helping her.

What if there was an option at the end to make everyone happy? Rosalind wins and settles her debts. Veronica loses, but thanks to our intervention, she uncovers the deception. So she sues the coach and a company connected to Samson or something like that.
(conspiracy to fraud or whatever the law is in this fictional world).
Felicia became more confident and was able to stand up for herself to her husband (after all,she's smart, and also she is a billionaire's wife).

 

[Great730]

Hello people, explain when the subscription of the club owner began to cost 71, it seemed to be for 40?

 

[TERES]

Simple l have 6 save playlists in my game everyone wins.
Veronica,Felicia,Rosali,Mina,Hana,Kathleen

 

[The Witcher]

Does the CheatMod also include a walkthrough? If not, is it compatible with the WT mod linked in the OP?

No, it's just a cheatmod and Yes, it's compatible with the WT mod.

 

[dolfe67]

Hello people, explain when the subscription of the club owner began to cost 71, it seemed to be for 40?

You must have changed your currency. It's $50 (USD) though

 

[Ottoeight]

ICurrently there are two metrics in the game, the essence of which is not clear yet - Hana's anger and Felicia's confidence.

Well, my guess is:

- less angry Hana is better than angrier Hana (for her, for Edwin and for the club's girls; not so sure for the Carnations);

- more confident Felicia is better than less confident Felicia (for her and for Edwin; not so sure for the other Carnations).

 

[Idontplay]

Maybe it depend from the outcome you want: an angrier Hana is better if you want use her to destroy the club, a less angry Hana is better if you want use her to create your own position inside the club.

 

[YuNobi1]

Maybe it depend from the outcome you want: an angrier Hana is better if you want use her to destroy the club, a less angry Hana is better if you want use her to create your own position inside the club.

That's the impression I get.
Less Angry = "Under New Management" Hana and Edwin take over the club, and whatever changes that are made, they'll certainly involve increasing the housegirls' quality of life.
More Angry = "Burn it Down"

 

[plznoiamnotaweirdo]

do we know what is update 4 is gonna be about yet ? Are we gonna get to the show or is that another update cooking ?

 

[Takkatakka]

do we know what is update 4 is gonna be about yet ? Are we gonna get to the show or is that another update cooking ?

It will contain Wednesday, including the evening at the art exhibition with Felicia (and maybe more, but that isn't sure yet). The next show will likely be at least another Update maybe two off though.

 

[Axeleen]

the only sexual content that needs to revolve around victoria is the porn she was already in otherwise, leave her be!

No, she really needs to be fucked by MC. In fact, I truly believe the original idea, and thus ultimate goal and endgame of this project by GIL3D and TD1900 was originally to find a way to make a realistic Oedipus story* or at least theoretically possible in our real world, even if they may never admit this to themselves (or to us... )


PS: or maybe I just want to defile those slutty milkers, who knows...

*i.e that every single event in that story is a strategic step towards its inevitable resolution where the end page of the book would consist of Victoria being utterly dominated by Edwin and all the pieces in both their life would fall right into place, obviously.