VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.5 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[TD1900]

It's not surprising that people ask or desire it, but it's simply not a direction the story will go.

And while Pale Carnations may not be a realistic narrative, it does have a status quo and scope, and incest falls outside those bounds. Plus, in my opinion as a guy who takes his porn game story way too seriously (if you don't, no one will), it would run contrary to the foundation of Edwin and Vicky's character.

Plus, I don't like it, and there isn't a more important reason than that.

 

[link18]

Not all games with family members needs to have incest most good ones (story wise) don't, its very hard to pull off a unique incest story especialy if its based in modern times with no fantasy or sci_fi genres elements

All that in mind i still hold hope to see Vicky get some action in the present time in the story shes hot and that will be even hotter

Though wherever creative decision the devs make im here for it the game is great already without it

 

[N024]

The reality that none of the people clamouring for it are going to have to accept is that the absolute peak of these terribly incestous vibes is a result of the fact that they're all just Edwin's subconsious fantasies, and nothing will ever be better.

 

[link18]

The reality that none of the people clamouring for it are going to have to accept is that the absolute peak of these terribly incestous vibes is a result of the fact that they're all just Edwin's subconsious fantasies, and nothing will ever be better.

Exacty, like how many people IRL fantasize about it the answer is a alot and how many act on it almost none, its one of the most prominant genres in porn for a reason but the chances of that happening IRL is slim to none excluding abuse

also this is the only vn i played that tackles the life of an ex pornstar son Pov its weird and hot in the same time

 

[lnppo]

It's not surprising that people ask or desire it, but it's simply not a direction the story will go.

And while Pale Carnations may not be a realistic narrative, it does have a status quo and scope, and incest falls outside those bounds. Plus, in my opinion as a guy who takes his porn game story way too seriously (if you don't, no one will), it would run contrary to the foundation of Edwin and Vicky's character.

Plus, I don't like it, and there isn't a more important reason than that.

Fair enough.
Although ultimately I think the only true reason is your last one since large portions of the narrative is characters doing things they don't want to or that they didn't think they were capable of.
Removing every scene that was "contrary to the foundation of [...] character(s)" would result in no Carnations since they're all betraying themselves in some regard.

 

[TD1900]

Although ultimately I think the only true reason is your last one since large portions of the narrative is characters doing things they don't want to or that they didn't think they were capable of.
Removing every scene that was "contrary to the foundation of [...] character(s)" would result in no Carnations since they're all betraying themselves in some regard.

It's more of an overarching thing, rather than "characters must behave the way they think they will."

I'm talking about how Edwin and Victoria's relationship informs other components of the story, where I want that to lead, and how it was pretty much the first thing I conceptualized writing even before the sex club aspect got folded into the scenario. What I'm trying to say is that, at it's core, this is not an incest story. And sure, it's all made up and the story can twist any direction one pleases, but it'd be working against the logic that has been built up and followed in my head.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

It's more of an overarching thing, rather than "characters must behave the way they think they will."

I'm talking about how Edwin and Victoria's relationship informs other components of the story, where I want that to lead, and how it was pretty much the first thing I conceptualized writing even before the sex club aspect got folded into the scenario. What I'm trying to say is that, at it's core, this is not an incest story. And sure, it's all made up and the story can twist any direction one pleases, but it'd be working against the logic that has been built up and followed in my head.

For me personally, Victoria is a real mother for Edwin and support for Ian, and I don’t see any sense in any dirty plots and incest for her. I like how she behaves openly around Edwin and Ian, as if they were her sons and is ready to support them no matter what their problem is, she even jokes better with Ian when they both tease Edwin. so for me she is like a mother and a friend, the best character in the game!

 

[Whiteknightskyy]

I tried following your instructions for installing Android but no matter what I do I can't find the file the game file you're talking about I go into Ren play saves but the pale coronation the game file isn't in there. Never mind I kept reading it wrong I know what I'm doing wrong now

 

[Ottoeight]

Exacty, like how many people IRL fantasize about it the answer is a alot and how many act on it almost none, its one of the most prominant genres in porn for a reason but the chances of that happening IRL is slim to none excluding abuse

also this is the only vn i played that tackles the life of an ex pornstar son Pov its weird and hot in the same time

It is NOT one of the prominant genres: it is just a lame and sad byproduct of the hentai subculture.

I don't remember a single erotic-pornographic movie or novel in the whole history of Western civilisation where incest is the main theme.

You guys always forget that on Internet the most extreme dudes who belong to tiny minorities are the most vocal people by far.

 

[link18]

I was making a refrence to step mom step sis in the porn industrie not main stream media

main theme.

No u cant make it the main theme remember its still illegal in the US and taboo in other countries u cant make money out of it in mainstream media but i can think of GOT and STARWARS That are well known
And hey Oedipus is greek mythology its as western as u can get plus not only western people play these games

PS : Im not advocating for incest in PC the exact opposit

 

[dolfe67]

The first incest genre is the bible

Or the greek/roman/egyptian mythology, gods are consanguineous

 

[Takkatakka]

The first incest genre is the bible

Or the greek/roman/egyptian mythology, gods are consanguineous

The Greek had everything already, including bestiality.

 

[Ottoeight]

I was making a refrence to step mom step sis in the porn industrie not main stream media


No u cant make it the main theme remember its still illegal in the US and taboo in other countries u cant make money out of it in mainstream media but i can think of GOT and STARWARS That are well known
And hey Oedipus is greek mythology its as western as u can get plus not only western people play these games

PS : Im not advocating for incest in PC the exact opposit

(this is an answer to everybody)

If I remember well, homicide is illegal, nonetheless you see murders in quite a lot of fiction.

I think you guys should realise that every erotic work from the past was forbidden and printers and booksellers illegally printed, copied and sold it.

You might want to remember that Flaubert and Baudelaire were charged for immorality and went on trial, for instance, and that evey protestant denomination and the Catholic Church banned all of the erotic literature in the 16th century, who was prohibited until the 20th century.

Greek and latin writers wrote in greek and latin (of course), so no one knew and read them except very few scholars.


BUT I think we went off topic, so let's put an end and let's say what TD1900 just said: this game WILL NOT have incest content because this is NOT that kind of story.

So please stop busting our balls about Vic and Ian's mom and leave us alone.

 

[link18]

I dont care about Ian's mom but heeellll nah, still want vicky to have fun on display for us shes the best milf

 

[Ottoeight]

I dont care about Ian's mom but heeellll nah, still want vicky to have fun on display for us shes the best milf

He just said she won't. Get over it.

 

[link18]

He just said she won't. Get over it.

dude im not talking about Edwin here, she mentioned online dating early on so why not take two birds with one stone let her find happiness and me two though it can be just one night stands or somthing like that since Edwin's dad is the love her life and i know that she wont partake in the club activities lets wait and see

 

[LjQujd]

You know, Felicia is something else.

This character is unlike most similar slutty female characters around because she can be classy as well, on top of being very smart and wise for her age. It's like in every conversation with her she is 1 step ahead of you most of the time. Her scenes are not just porn, they are written to convey something more for us to ponder about ourselves. I believe this character will be bigger then we think, possibly a secret puppet master of sorts that might pull the rug under everyone's noses in the endgame.

Do I think she is a waifu material, hell no! It's very clear that romance, chastity and love isn't what she is about. But she is special, has her succubi-esque charms and wits, and I just feel she also hides a heart of gold underneath. So yeah, just wanted to drop an appreciation post for Felicia, for her pretty unique design and captivating presence in the story.

 

[Ass prefer]

You know, Felicia is something else.

This character is unlike most similar slutty female characters around because she can be classy as well, on top of being very smart and wise for her age. It's like in every conversation with her she is 1 step ahead of you most of the time. Her scenes are not just porn, they are written to convey something more for us to ponder about ourselves. I believe this character will be bigger then we think, possibly a secret puppet master of sorts that might pull the rug under everyone's noses in the endgame.

Do I think she is a waifu material, hell no! It's very clear that romance, chastity and love isn't what she is about. But she is special, has her succubi-esque charms and wits, and I just feel she also hides a heart of gold underneath. So yeah, just wanted to drop an appreciation post for Felicia, for her pretty unique design and captivating presence in the story.

Huh, it's good that some whore was able to give you such feelings But don't forget who your heart belongs to its Hana and Mina

 

[Ass prefer]

So for some reason I can't find any news about the next update? Developers are silent or...

 

[Turret]

You know, Felicia is something else.

This character is unlike most similar slutty female characters around because she can be classy as well, on top of being very smart and wise for her age. It's like in every conversation with her she is 1 step ahead of you most of the time. Her scenes are not just porn, they are written to convey something more for us to ponder about ourselves. I believe this character will be bigger then we think, possibly a secret puppet master of sorts that might pull the rug under everyone's noses in the endgame.

Do I think she is a waifu material, hell no! It's very clear that romance, chastity and love isn't what she is about. But she is special, has her succubi-esque charms and wits, and I just feel she also hides a heart of gold underneath. So yeah, just wanted to drop an appreciation post for Felicia, for her pretty unique design and captivating presence in the story.

Hi!
The only part of your post I have to disagree with is about Feli as not being "waifu material"! On the contrary, IMHO Felicia is one of the few true future wife options you have in the game.
For a nice Edwin there are just 4 main wife options: Hana, Felicia, Mina and Sophia, depending on what traits we lay our focus on!