VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.5 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Ottoeight]

I guess there's 4.4 version set somewhere in windows. Even if I delete the saves folder, it appears again after starting the game.

Good Lord...


1. your saves are into your Users/[your name]/AppData/Roaming/Renpy/PaCaGame-1554919452 folder as well;

2. did you previously play a modded game? if the answer is YES, then your saves are your problem: they won't work until the mods get updated and you installed an updated mod;

3. you didn't previously play a modded game, but you merged some mod into the game folder: the mods are your problem because they need to be updated;

4. none of the above? dunno what to say.

I won't answer you anymore.

 

[Ottoeight]

Hi! After the new update the girl´s tierlist was thoroughly in need of an update too.

 

[Turret]

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No, we do not! Grey morale, eccentric, medical empire inheriting, nerd genius future wife for the win!
But personal likes/dislkes aside, at the end of the day Sophia is one of the most interesting characters in the game. So her place in S tier is a must.

 

[Ottoeight]

colombianhoes

It's interesting you're so sure of that when it's just as plausible (that she will go back to Ian) as Edwin staying her boyfriend. And she has hots for EVERYONE, even that supposedly handsome, big nosed guy at the party:

Spoiler: handsome guy

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I'm guessing we as players will decide how it will turn out. If we will be bros to Ian and not pursue Mina ourselves it's very likely that Mina will go back to her ex. This is what Mina had to say about Ian:

"I like that Ian can still surprise me. He's goofy and it's almost like he's stumbling through life with blinders on, but sometimes he blindly walks into making a girl feel special"

She was pretty shaken-up for a reason after their break-up.

Now that she will have her "revenge" and that Ian will make an effort (his apology is the first step, although it depends on us whether we will help or not) I'm pretty sure it will be one of available endings.

Well, now I'm pretty sure that we're seeing a lot of things quite differently.

Wanna make a bet?

- Mina won't go back to Ian no matter what. Ian will settle with Alice/the hairdresser by the story epilogue (if he settles with somebody).

My second bet is:

- even though we might see more scenes involving lewd activity between Edwin and Sophia, we won't have any proper sex scene / date between them.

My third bet is:

- Darius and Isla are alive and well.

 

[longjohngold]

I think I've been underrating Harper.

She's always been the most prominent club girl, but outside of that early scene where Kath drugs the MC and he fucks a bunch of them over and over, then I don't think he ever hooks up with her. The dangly scene ends with him and Kath. Then there's one where she's blowing the action dude very early on, another where she seduces Lucy (great scene that put her on my radar)... I don't think I'm missing any.

I guess she used to be more standoffish and maybe that's why, but in the new update her little appearance on the bro out option was probably my favourite interaction between the MC and any of the girls (Fel arrives too late for anything much, and Ronnie I'm obviously throwing at Mina like a shotput). I was actually a bit disappointed when the get involved with none of the major chars led the MC to the bar girl and not flirting with Harper a bit more. Which is interesting as I don't think before I've been jonesing for Harper content over my main 3: Fel/Ronnie/Kath. Also liked that little bit where she hits on (?) Mina if you're on the path to hang with her, or maybe she wanted to talk to MC? She seems kinda sad when they take off, I felt a bit sad for her, though it was a bit reckless to just go up and ask if girls you see with people you know are prostitutes, even if discreetly.

So yeah I think I've underrated her. She's clearly a damn perv too with how she was sneaking about with Lucy (I don't think that was just her under orders trying to make Lucy better at her job), and then those comments about her maybe trying to do the same with the grumpy pink haired one. Could make a decent partner - likes old movies too. Only thing is I vaguely remember something about her having a kid that she leaves at home with her mother when she's working, so that's not ideal. Though it's been years since that part of the game so I could be easily mis-remembering.

Oh a mild bug too, if you go watch Harper's dangly scene in the memories section, but then actually choose to let her down to get her raincheck dialogue (honestly if I'd seen lively Harper back then I woulda had more of a thing for her for a while)... the replay doesn't end just keeps going... it's missing one of them quit lines.

 

[Ungawa]

... I will strongly advise against any and all bets because when they backfire...

Oh boy is there fallout...

 

[XLSergioXL]

Good Lord...


1. your saves are into your Users/[your name]/AppData/Roaming/Renpy/PaCaGame-1554919452 folder as well;

2. did you previously play a modded game? if the answer is YES, then your saves are your problem: they won't work until the mods get updated and you installed an updated mod;

3. you didn't previously play a modded game, but you merged some mod into the game folder: the mods are your problem because they need to be updated;

4. none of the above? dunno what to say.

I won't answer you anymore.

Thank you very much. I used mod. Maybe I should wait for its update. Without one I feel totally lost.

 

[joryh]

any heroes with the bugfixed version? started a fresh run and the font size is killing me halfway thru...

Can't even see the font. Every save file just bugs out and drops me at starting a new game.

 

[NH_Ash]

I see in memory have some scenes from the Hana rock show, but I can't seem to grasp the overall story. After my date with Felicia, it already showed the end of the version. Did I miss anything?

 

[ffive]

I see in memory have some scenes from the Hana rock show, but I can't seem to grasp the overall story. After my date with Felicia, it already showed the end of the version. Did I miss anything?

Try to rollback your save a few steps and then play from that point. It sounds like your save is from past the bridge from last update to the new one.

 

[Ottoeight]

Thank you very much. I used mod. Maybe I should wait for its update. Without one I feel totally lost.

Maybe you should stop using mods and wait for the pdf walkthrough update made by Mr Bubu.

I see in memory have some scenes from the Hana rock show, but I can't seem to grasp the overall story. After my date with Felicia, it already showed the end of the version. Did I miss anything?

Oh well. Here we go again.

 

[sunaboz]

Wanna make a bet?

I don't bet but even if I would, we will learn about it in 5 years or more. As for Ian, if he will settle with anyone it certainly won't be that hairdresser. Besides Mina I can see him with Hana. They have the best chemistry out of all characters and we can clearly see that Hana has changed her mind about Ian (even told Edwin to invite him to her concert) and we know that Ian likes Hana (he said so in this update). Them being PC owners successors makes them even easier to connect.

But yeah, we will see. Such option (Hana or Mina) will certainly be not met enthusiastically by psycho fans who worship Hana/Mina (and there are a lot of those).

Regarding Sophia - I agree that we won't have a date but I'm sure we will have sex. She had already handjobbed Edwin (assuming we preferred her over Kat) while he was watching carnations being punished and she is open for sex, plus Abel has offered her at least once so I doubt we won't see some fanservice.

As for Isla and Darius - while Isla might be well, Darius is definitely not.

But personal likes/dislkes aside, at the end of the day Sophia is one of the most interesting characters in the game.

Most interesting? Why do you think that?

 

[Ottoeight]

Can't even see the font. Every save file just bugs out and drops me at starting a new game.

A MESSAGE TO EVERYBODY

THIS IS A REN'PY GAME

Just press shift + A on your PC keyboard and change font and size:

 

[ffive]

They have the best chemistry out of all characters and we can clearly see that Hana has changed her mind about Ian

There's also this variant of Hana/Mina talk, if you didn't push Mina towards girls:

            mina "...do you want me to back off?"
            hana "Like I said... we're not dating."
            mina "I know from personal experience that doesn't mean feelings aren't involved."
            hana "...yeah, but it is what is. It might not end pretty, but..."
            hana "...shit, I want to get to know you better. I don't want to budge on a thing."
            hana "We have so much in common, including our taste in men apparently."
            mina "...if that's true, does that mean you think Ian's hot?"
            hana "Fuck no! I mean, as far as looks go, I guess--"
            hana "*Sigh* Let's get you home."
            mina "...alright."

 

[Ottoeight]

SECOND MESSAGE TO EVERYBODY:

your saves won't work because of you.

How many times must we remind people that your modded saves - ANY modded save in ANY modded game - ONLY work IF AND WHEN the mod GETS UPDATED?

 

[Ottoeight]

I don't bet but even if I would, we will learn about it in 5 years or more. As for Ian, if he will settle with anyone it certainly won't be that hairdresser. Besides Mina I can see him with Hana. They have the best chemistry out of all characters and we can clearly see that Hana has changed her mind about Ian (even told Edwin to invite him to her concert) and we know that Ian likes Hana (he said so in this update). Them being PC owners successors makes them even easier to connect.

But yeah, we will see. Such option (Hana or Mina) will certainly be not met enthusiastically by psycho fans who worship Hana/Mina (and there are a lot of those).

Regarding Sophia - I agree that we won't have a date but I'm sure we will have sex. She had already handjobbed Edwin (assuming we preferred her over Kat) while he was watching carnations being punished and she is open for sex, plus Abel has offered her at least once so I doubt we won't see some fanservice.

As for Isla and Darius - while Isla might be well, Darius is definitely not.


Most interesting? Why do you think that?

There's also this variant of Hana/Mina talk, if you didn't push Mina towards girls:

            mina "...do you want me to back off?"
            hana "Like I said... we're not dating."
            mina "I know from personal experience that doesn't mean feelings aren't involved."
            hana "...yeah, but it is what is. It might not end pretty, but..."
            hana "...shit, I want to get to know you better. I don't want to budge on a thing."
            hana "We have so much in common, including our taste in men apparently."
            mina "...if that's true, does that mean you think Ian's hot?"
            hana "Fuck no! I mean, as far as looks go, I guess--"
            hana "*Sigh* Let's get you home."
            mina "...alright."

Hana is simply telling Mina that she's aware that Mina has the hots for Edwin.

I think that you guys are starting to forget that Edwin is the MC, not Ian.

The dude who's supposed to score chicks is the Main Character, not his buddy.

 

[ffive]

Hana is simply telling Mina that she's aware that Mina has the hots for Edwin.

Not quite. Hana all but confirms here in response to Mina's question that she finds Ian sexually attractive.

I think that you guys are starting to forget that Edwin in the MC, not Ian.

The dude who's supposed to score chicks is the Main Character, not his buddy.

Well that's a fair point :v

But i think this might be left as option for e.g. scenario where the player opts to ultimately focus on Mina as his gf (taking the public kiss option at the concert etc) which would leave Hana and Ian as a potential "other" pair. Having these 4 end up like this could be pretty cute. And Hana is probably best equipped to handle Ian's bullshit

 

[Ungawa]

Not quite. Hana all but confirms here in response to Mina's question that she finds Ian sexually attractive.

... Yes... But... Remember that those two are like oil and water in the fact that they don't mix and the entire early game is about establishing a big reason they won't ever want to get emotionally involved unless both change very drastically as characters.

Well that's a fair point :v

But i think this might be left as option for e.g. scenario where the player opts to ultimately focus on Mina as his gf (taking the public kiss option at the concert etc) which would leave Hana and Ian as a potential "other" pair. Having these 4 end up like this could be pretty cute. And Hana is probably best equipped to handle Ian's bullshit

Cute, maybe.

But the writing on that is incredibly messy when emotions are involved and they've been established as antagonistic for very good reasons.

 

[Turret]

SECOND MESSAGE TO EVERYBODY:

your saves won't work because of you.

How many times must we remind people that your modded saves - ANY modded save in ANY modded game - ONLY work IF AND WHEN the mod GETS UPDATED?

I like the intensity of your answers here!

 

[ffive]

... Yes... But... Remember that those two are like oil and water in the fact that they don't mix and the entire early game is about establishing a big reason they won't ever want to get emotionally involved unless both change very drastically as characters.

I think this is why people talk about Hana and Ian pairing in the context of Ian who has undergone the introspective, as opposed to his regular douchy self.