pigg

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Lots of choices and a story are great, of course, when it all leads somewhere... But there are very few H-scenes for nine months of development. At the same time, there's a lot of plot and those same "empty" choices. Apparently, the developer has been working on this game for so long that they've forgotten they're making a porn game, and its core is H-scenes, not a story and various meaningless choices. And this is already the second such pointless update, and considering that you have to wait almost a year for each update, it's quite disappointing... especially if something similar happens next year...
Apparently, it was decided some time ago they were going to split the update, which is why it seems short. Hopefully, that means the next half will be ready in less than nine months.
 
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I haven't played the update (neither I know when I will play it), so what I'm about to write is likely totally wrong; anyway…
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P.S. I'm pretty sure there is an h somewhere in Elias' name, but I don't remember where.
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The three old milfs carnations are fine, but none are especially appealing; they are not even the best looking girls in the brothel. One has huge muscles; another has moles on her breast. Almost all the girls in the game have the same shape, big busty girls with big hips, all about thirty-four years old, mothers. Yay! That's a fantasy of most of us, right?

It seems that it is, judging by the enthusiasm I'm seeing on this board. I'm guessing most players are younger than 34 and yet, that's their fantasy?
Stop projecting your own desires and preferences onto other people, and especially stop labeling word and others as "weirdos" just because they don't behave the way you want them to. That's childish.
 
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DeronMaron

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Apparently, it was decided some time ago they were going to split the update, which is why it seems short. Hopefully, that means the next half will be ready in less than nine months.
Well, let's hope that less than nine months will not be eight months or something like that.:HideThePain:
 
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Stop projecting your own desires and preferences onto other people, and especially stop labeling word and others as "weirdos" just because they don't behave the way you want them to. That's childish.
Well, I'm not a fan of MILFs in general either. And here they're really not that great. So I can understand some of the players' dissatisfaction with the older women.
 

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Well, I'm not a fan of MILFs in general either. And here they're really not that great. So I can understand some of the players' dissatisfaction with the older women.
The three Carnations have been an important part of the plot since Chapter 1, I understand if they are not your favorites but complaining about them at this point is absurd, the 3 of them are important to the story being told.
 

HUNUTAN

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The three Carnations have been an important part of the plot since Chapter 1, I understand if they are not your favorites but complaining about them at this point is absurd, the 3 of them are important to the story being told.
Well, I'm not complaining about them. I'm just saying that I'm not particularly interested in them in terms of content. (I won't even mention the plot; it's already stretched out to the limit.) And that's all we get in that regard these days. So, naturally, I'm not thrilled with this milf parade either.
 

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Yes, the scene with Mina was romantic, and that's all. And it wasn't easy to trigger, which was frustrating and annoying and, well, not fun. Then when it happened, it was less of a scene than the previous scenes with her, despite the foreshadowing of something more. So no advance, except for "romance." So . . . despite what some might have been thinking, and despite Mina's long list of kinky things she wants to try . . . now it appears that very little of any of those things will be happening.

Mina and Hana are the stars of this game, according to many. But here we are at week three, and some stranger movie star with weird skin is thrust upon us, instead of developing something with any of the established girls. It seems that the developer is making this story up as he goes along. He gets an inspiration, hey let's add this, that'll be fun. And forgets the flow of the game as it is experienced by those playing it.
The flow of the game and how things connect is one of my primary concerns. It's what I spend the greatest amount of time wrestling over, and while result isn't perfect, it's not arbitrary; it's a reflection of what I think a visual novel should try to be. I'm sorry you find the structure irritating, and thank you for the feed back, but it's not done capriciously like you're suggesting.

Frankly: the function of the scene was presenting Edwin an emotional outlet post-Vicky talk with the seeming "girlfriend" options of the game. If you're loaning Mina out to Veronica or spending time with another girl instead of Mina during the last update, the game sees that an implicit choice about where you want Mina's relationship to go.

As for the list: should Edwin run out and grab some dude off the street corner so they can Eiffel tower her? Should he break out the dog collar after spilling his guts? No, not the time. Mina uses the moment to be tender and make Edwin feel better. Deepening their romantic connection within the remaining week and some change is a more time sensitive matter than exploring her kinky side - of which we'll get to.

I'll add one more thing: the game isn't just about the "stars", but also Edwin himself. Under that light, I hope Allison has a point (beyond being smoking hot).

Apparently, the developer has been working on this game for so long that they've forgotten they're making a porn game, and its core is H-scenes, not a story and various meaningless choices. And this is already the second such pointless update, and considering that you have to wait almost a year for each update, it's quite disappointing... especially if something similar happens next year...
That actually makes me feel better since I figured people would complain about the opposite. That is, a short update where the majority of dev energy was spent sex scenes. Trust me, most of those "story" scenes were a lot quicker to craft than the 8ish sex scenes and their constituent parts. I mean just look at the orgy scene itself: there's like 40+ animations within, juggling 12 actors between the statics.

I think your real issue may be with the breadth, focus, and presentation of the sex scenes themselves rather than a lack of 'em. Which is fair enough.
 
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Maevos

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How do you get the latest scene with our favorite milf sadist? Scene gallery hints at Edwin making a mistake but I never got a choice related to that.
 

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I just want to remind you oblivious guys to pay attention to saves, gallery unlockers and mods posted on the threads.

If you ask why, then check this thread https://f95zone.to/threads/recent-malware-infected-games.207437/

and remember that a few weeks ago some damn fucker repeatedly posted gallery unlockers on quite a few threads that had a malicious virus in them using different aliases.

That's why I think you guys should stop asking for saves, unlockers, mods and whatever.

And that's one of the reasons I'm not going to play this game until the public version comes out.

Other reasons:

- because the public version is going to be bugfree and more polished than the patreon version;
- because our buddy Mr Bubu most likely is going to update his walkthrough in the meanwhile;
- because I think the Authors deserve some respect, for fuck's sake.
 

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The scenes that I haven't unlocked are still locked.
Let me get a handle on the situation. You copied the 'unlocker.rpy' file into the 'game' folder, right? Did you then run the game, and did it run without any error messages? Have you restarted the game since adding the file?
 
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DeronMaron

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The flow of the game and how things connect is one of my primary concerns. It's what I spend the greatest amount of time wrestling over, and while result isn't perfect, it's not arbitrary; it's a reflection of what I think a visual novel should try to be. I'm sorry you find the structure irritating, and thank you for the feed back, but it's not done capriciously like you're suggesting.

Frankly: the function of the scene was presenting Edwin an emotional outlet post-Vicky talk with the seeming "girlfriend" options of the game. If you're loaning Mina out to Veronica or spending time with another girl instead of Mina during the last update, the game sees that an implicit choice about where you want Mina's relationship to go.

As for the list: should Edwin run out and grab some dude off the street corner so they can Eiffel tower her? Should he break out the dog collar after spilling his guts? No, not the time. Mina uses the moment to be tender and make Edwin feel better. Deepening their romantic connection within the remaining week and some change is a more time sensitive matter than exploring her kinky side - of which we'll get to.

I'll add one more thing: the game isn't just about the "stars", but also Edwin himself. Under that light, I hope Allison has a point (beyond being smoking hot).



That actually makes me feel better since I figured people would complain about the opposite. That is, a short update where the majority of dev energy was spent sex scenes. Trust me, most of those "story" scenes were a lot quicker to craft than the 8ish sex scenes and their constituent parts. I mean just look at the orgy scene itself: there's like 40+ animations within, juggling 12 actors between the statics.

I think your real issue may be with the breadth, focus, and presentation of the sex scenes themselves rather than a lack of 'em. Which is fair enough.
Is anyone really complaining about too many H-scenes? Do such people exist?:WaitWhat:
Well, I immediately forgot about the orgy after watching it; it was quite chaotic and didn't stick in my memory at all. I really don't appreciate the constant perspective shifts from scene to scene.
I looked at all the other scenes in the gallery after opening it because I couldn't get to any of them either. These decisions are becoming more and more unwise. Moreover, their number has increased, while their impact on the protagonist's actions has diminished, since most of them simply result in inaction. Is it enough to make a mistake once. There's no need to complicate the game; it's pointless. If the game doesn't have enough scenes, let's at least get to them properly, that would be something.
 
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