VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Simpgor]

I wonder who we can use the contents of the briefcase that Kat gave us.

Are we talking about the thing you get from spending the night (after the show) with her? I recall there were just normal household objects included in the box i seem to recall a hairbrush at least?

Assuming the contents was sexy time stuff: Rose makes the "most sense" since you can have a deal with her and she is currently staying at your apartment. It also works from a story perspective as Kathleen gave you the box and Kathleen wants you to embrace your deviance nature and since Rose is constantly compared to your mom it makes sense Kathleen would want that.

Assuming the contents was more normal stuff: I think the box itself is the "trap" since we don't know where any of them came from they could have been used by anybody (once again Kathleen pushing MC to embrace lusting after mom?)

Like I said I don't really recall what was in the box or if you are even talking about the same thing. I do think that the box will likely have a specific usage as opposed to being usable on anyone just to cut down on possible branches if nothing else

 

[boy1208]

Is there any way for me to unlock the scenes i didnt choose without having to play through the game again?

 

[RoaringDream]

estimated late February/early March

So close to Eternum's next update. Nice!

 

[hotdtakagi]

is there gonna be a victoria in the brothel soon? or is it gonna be all past porn videos?

 

[Takkatakka]

is there gonna be a victoria in the brothel soon? or is it gonna be all past porn videos?

As long as TD doesn't go down a very dark path in which Kath might force her she likely won't end up in the brothel anytime soon and incest is off the table, if that is the idea here.

 

[se20299]

As a huge Victoria enjoyer, I'm content with her porn flashbacks. I really hope we get a threesome or a gangbang animation, as I think Vicky is the hottest girl in game.

 

[Ottoeight]

As a huge Victoria enjoyer, I'm content with her porn flashbacks. I really hope we get a threesome or a gangbang animation, as I think Vicky is the hottest girl in game.

The Authors wrote and told that Vic is a huge no and we will only have her flashback movies (they told it over and over), but I guess some people just won't understand that every character has his/her own place and role in the story and that seeing our favourite porn mommy being sexually active in the present doesn't make sense.

 

[se20299]

The Authors wrote and told that Vic is a huge no and we will only have her flashback movies (they told it over and over), but I guess some people just won't understand that every character has his/her own place and role in the story and that seeing our favourite porn mommy being sexually active in the present doesn't make sense.

Absolutely. She's a huge plot device for Edwin's character arc, and throwing that away would be pretty stupid. Besides, I really enjoy the juxtaposition of the wholesome housewife she presents herself as and the depraved slut we see in her flashbacks, and the effect it has on Edwin. I just hope we get more flashbacks, there must be more of those tapes lying around

 

[Nulldev]

The Authors wrote and told that Vic is a huge no and we will only have her flashback movies (they told it over and over), but I guess some people just won't understand that every character has his/her own place and role in the story and that seeing our favourite porn mommy being sexually active in the present doesn't make sense.

That's not true.
The creators have a story in mind, that does not involve Mom sex in present. That's ok.
But saying you can't envision any way that makes sense is serious lack of imagination. Kat the sadist is trying to foster MC the mini-sadist. Mom acts as a moral pillar for the MC, so it's clearly useful to Kat to destroy this pillar to unleash MC's dark side. Shattering the good mother illusion in the MC's mind is easy if you show how she did not make sex videos for money but because she is just a whore who can't keep her legs closed.

 

[GokutheG]

That's not true.
The creators have a story in mind, that does not involve Mom sex in present. That's ok.
But saying you can't envision any way that makes sense is serious lack of imagination. Kat the sadist is trying to foster MC the mini-sadist. Mom acts as a moral pillar for the MC, so it's clearly useful to Kat to destroy this pillar to unleash MC's dark side. Shattering the good mother illusion in the MC's mind is easy if you show how she did not make sex videos for money but because she is just a whore who can't keep her legs closed.

But the mc makes it clear that if Kat tries to mess with his mom again that he will quit the job. She already knows that he was hesitant to even accept the job in the first place. I think she's smart enough not to cross that line to achieve her goals.

 

[Ottoeight]

That's not true.
The creators have a story in mind, that does not involve Mom sex in present. That's ok.
But saying you can't envision any way that makes sense is serious lack of imagination. Kat the sadist is trying to foster MC the mini-sadist. Mom acts as a moral pillar for the MC, so it's clearly useful to Kat to destroy this pillar to unleash MC's dark side. Shattering the good mother illusion in the MC's mind is easy if you show how she did not make sex videos for money but because she is just a whore who can't keep her legs closed.

They said it won't happen. Over and over and over. DEAL WITH IT

And what you wrote about her is totally wrong: I think you misinterpreted Victoria as a character.

What Kat is "fostering" is totally up to you as player: my Edwin is totally rejecting this. And remember: Victoria has no game/system points.

 

[Elduriel]

They said it won't happen. Over and over and over. DEAL WITH IT

And what you wrote about her is totally wrong: I think you misinterpreted Victoria as a character.

What Kat is "fostering" is totally up to you as player: my Edwin is totally rejecting this. And remember: Victoria has no game/system points.

I don't mind at all, not every character needs to be an LI. I like her as it is, one of my fav characters in the game.

 

[Ottoeight]

I don't mind at all, not every character needs to be an LI. I like her as it is, one of my fav characters in the game.

That's not it. They wanna see her gangbanged by those fucking Carnation patrons and Edwin being aware of it.

I SAY: "NOT ME!"

 

[YuNobi1]

But the mc makes it clear that if Kat tries to mess with his mom again that he will quit the job. She already knows that he was hesitant to even accept the job in the first place. I think she's smart enough not to cross that line to achieve her goals.

Kat practices Domination as a lifestyle, but to do it effectively, she needs to know the psychology of her subject(s) in order to develop a proper training plan, else she's liable to use the carrot/stick at the wrong time or wrong severity. Whether we humans like it or not, our background dictates much about our personality and character, either in agreement or rejection of our original values, so naturally she checks MC's upbringing, and finds a hostile and protective response from her subject regarding his mother. Here she kills two birds by 1) gaining valuable background information, 2) discovering a soft spot or "pressure point" in the MC. Another critical part of her discovery/training regimen is to isolate the border between a subject's compliance and resistance, thus she has to deftly press on the subject's limits just until she finds the point where they finally snap back. Her goading of Rose to the point that Rose slaps her is a perfect example. For MC, she discovered the pressure point in the limo, and then pressed his limit before the studio shoot. I suspect she's satisfied, at least regarding MC's position on Victoria, so she won't press the issue again, unless it's related to his sadistic limit (like the conversation following Week 2's Exhibition).

 

[Elduriel]

That's not it. They wanna see her gangbanged by those fucking Carnation patrons and Edwin being aware of it.

I SAY: "NOT ME!"

 

[adanu]

When the dev of your favourite h-game makes a recommendation for another h-game. Let's fucking go boys.

I can highly second that recommendation. The Last Sovereign has been an incredible ride so far.

 

[Idontplay]

Shattering the good mother illusion in the MC's mind is easy if you show how she did not make sex videos for money but because she is just a whore who can't keep her legs closed.

If you read the dialogues of the last two updates, you will find out that what you have written is exactly the opposite of how the developer have conceived MC's mom.

 

[adanu]

Kat practices Domination as a lifestyle, but to do it effectively, she needs to know the psychology of her subject(s) in order to develop a proper training plan, else she's liable to use the carrot/stick at the wrong time or wrong severity. Whether we humans like it or not, our background dictates much about our personality and character, either in agreement or rejection of our original values, so naturally she checks MC's upbringing, and finds a hostile and protective response from her subject regarding his mother. Here she kills two birds by 1) gaining valuable background information, 2) discovering a soft spot or "pressure point" in the MC. Another critical part of her discovery/training regimen is to isolate the border between a subject's compliance and resistance, thus she has to deftly press on the subject's limits just until she finds the point where they finally snap back. Her goading of Rose to the point that Rose slaps her is a perfect example. For MC, she discovered the pressure point in the limo, and then pressed his limit before the studio shoot. I suspect she's satisfied, at least regarding MC's position on Victoria, so she won't press the issue again, unless it's related to his sadistic limit (like the conversation following Week 2's Exhibition).

You don't get to be in her position by being an idiot. She knows manipulation VERY well.

 

[Nulldev]

The creators have a story in mind, that does not involve Mom sex in present. That's ok. But saying you can't envision any way that makes sense is serious lack of imagination.

They said it won't happen. Over and over and over. DEAL WITH IT

And what you wrote about her is totally wrong: I think you misinterpreted Victoria as a character.
...

...how the developer have conceived MC's mom.

Try to read the red part again slowly.

We need facepalm back.

 

[Mograx]

That's not true.
The creators have a story in mind, that does not involve Mom sex in present. That's ok.
But saying you can't envision any way that makes sense is serious lack of imagination. Kat the sadist is trying to foster MC the mini-sadist. Mom acts as a moral pillar for the MC, so it's clearly useful to Kat to destroy this pillar to unleash MC's dark side. Shattering the good mother illusion in the MC's mind is easy if you show how she did not make sex videos for money but because she is just a whore who can't keep her legs closed.