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she herself said that sex for her is like mange as a need. That's why I don't think she's particularly interested.
Well you can manage food as a need too. Limiting the sugar, getting 190g of protein everyday, salads with no dressing, then indulging on occasion with a cheat meal. For me, it's crawfish etouffee. For Sophie, maybe her cheat meal is pasta salad
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Might not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's at least interesting. Cold, intelligent people can be kinky too, maybe even more than us normies, because they limit themselves to experiencing thrills in short, intense bursts.

That's my theory anyway.
 

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Might not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's at least interesting. Cold, intelligent people can be kinky too, maybe even more than us normies, because they limit themselves to experiencing thrills in short, intense bursts.
You're presuming that drug-fuelled gang bang was an actual thrill for her, as opposed to something she was simply subjected to as part of her owner's usual showing off and/or drug test.
 
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she herself said that sex for her is like mange as a need. That's why I don't think she's particularly interested.
You have to remember when and who she said that to, Kath, a person Sophia dislikes and loaths. And the occasion was during the watching session in the blue room. In a certain way, if you let the situation go sexual, Sophia and Kath were competing for the MC. While Sophia can be detached, she has more fire in her than she lets on.
Something which is obvious even at this point of the game is that Sophia in many ways is the fitting puzzle piece for a goodish Edwin. They are very alike screenshot0004.png

There are several good reasons why I champion a Sophia romance ark for our MC. They fit better than some of the possible LIs we have. And with their personalities a romance with the MC and Sophia becomng a couple would be a quite tasty different take on romance. So please TD, give us such a path!

Smart girls are not good in bed :Kappa:
Definitely depends! While there are rather detached smart girls, there re also really wild smart girls.
Well you can manage food as a need too. Limiting the sugar, getting 190g of protein everyday, salads with no dressing, then indulging on occasion with a cheat meal. For me, it's crawfish etouffee. For Sophie, maybe her cheat meal is pasta salad
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Might not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's at least interesting. Cold, intelligent people can be kinky too, maybe even more than us normies, because they limit themselves to experiencing thrills in short, intense bursts.
That's my theory anyway.
Your theory has some real merit, I have a similar one on this topic.
You're presuming that drug-fuelled gang bang was an actual thrill for her, as opposed to something she was simply subjected to as part of her owner's usual showing off and/or drug test.
While Sophia is an eccentric, cool, amoral nerd genius, there are several hints thoughout the game that there are limits to her detachment. She also likes, going by the description, kissing and groping with the MC quite much (if you treated her nice before). I think Sophia had thrill and fun with the gangbang. She has her own black ops lab to test the drug, she would not have tested it herself if she were not ok with the gangbang.
You have to remember, while Sophia is the loyal Samurai to her Daimyo van Doren, she is his heir and both play quite a charade with the PC owners.
Abel and Sophia stick out like sore thumbs among the members of the Club for several reasons. Van Doren and Sophia "showing off" like that is to pretend to be like the other members.
 

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Is this game a little bit close to complete?
The game offers plenty of content already, if that's what you worry about, it also has a really healthy development cycle by getting constant updates and there's no signs of the devs wanting to slow down things to milk it.

But to answer your question, No, the game is still "decently" far away from being finished, like 1/3 left I'd say. Gladly tho. I'll be sad when there's no more PC updates to look forward to :cry:
 
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The game offers plenty of content already, if that's what you worry about, it also has a really healthy development cycle by getting constant updates and there's no signs of the devs wanting to slow down things to milk it.

But to answer your question, No, the game is still "decently" far away from being finished, like 1/3 left I'd say. Gladly tho. I'll be sad when there's no more PC updates to look forward to :cry:
Thank you so much for your reply.
Why I asked this question because, I'm half way of the game and I'm really loving it!
I'm really really curious about the endings, I hope there will be harem ending too.

.......well...thanks for the reply. :)
 
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Thank you so much for your reply.
Why I asked this question because, I'm half way of the game and I'm really loving it!
I'm really really curious about the endings, I hope there will be harem ending too.

.......well...thanks for the reply. :)
likewise, it is very good game. There is no harem tag, hopefully soon. Some of the characters are quite likable.
 

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Thank you so much for your reply.
Why I asked this question because, I'm half way of the game and I'm really loving it!
I'm really really curious about the endings, I hope there will be harem ending too.

.......well...thanks for the reply. :)
likewise, it is very good game. There is no harem tag, hopefully soon. Some of the characters are quite likable.
There will be no harem for this game, there is a high chance that there will be 1 or 2 throuples, but that is it as far as how many girls you can end up with. It will not be possible to be with all the girls at the end.
 

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There will be no harem for this game, there is a high chance that there will be 1 or 2 throuples, but that is it as far as how many girls you can end up with. It will not be possible to be with all the girls at the end.
Tbh it would feel weird to me as it's (with all weirdness going on) among the more realistic VNs in terms of story and characters; I mean it's not as much totally disconnected fairytale feeling as harem games usually are. I'm sure not everyone likes it but for my fantasy needs it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make :)
 

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While Sophia is an eccentric, cool, amoral nerd genius, there are several hints thoughout the game that there are limits to her detachment. She also likes, going by the description, kissing and groping with the MC quite much (if you treated her nice before). I think Sophia had thrill and fun with the gangbang. She has her own black ops lab to test the drug, she would not have tested it herself if she were not ok with the gangbang.
No one is claiming Sophia doesn't experience pleasure from sexual activities, at the end of the day she's got a human body with all that entails. But by her own statement, she treats this sphere as completely perfunctory, something she doesn't pay any real thought.

To think someone who doesn't really enjoy something actually enjoyed it because they went along with it, that's just wishful thinking. It's like concluding someone who doesn't enjoy classical music actually enjoyed a concert they've attended at their partner's insistence, because they were ok with going together rather than object. Following this logic the Carnations also have nothing but thrill and fun with what they're subjected to, because they consent to it.

Abel and Sophia stick out like sore thumbs among the members of the Club for several reasons. Van Doren and Sophia "showing off" like that is to pretend to be like the other members.
Sure, it absolutely isn't because Van Doren is old, narcissistic creep who enjoys showing off his power. Not at all. It's a carefully arranged charade and he actually weeps every time he has to subject his beloved assistant and heir to it, to maintain the illusion.

Something which is obvious even at this point of the game is that Sophia in many ways is the fitting puzzle piece for a goodish Edwin. They are very alike
I'm sorry, but

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Well you can manage food as a need too. Limiting the sugar, getting 190g of protein everyday, salads with no dressing, then indulging on occasion with a cheat meal. For me, it's crawfish etouffee. For Sophie, maybe her cheat meal is pasta salad
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Might not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's at least interesting. Cold, intelligent people can be kinky too, maybe even more than us normies, because they limit themselves to experiencing thrills in short, intense bursts.

That's my theory anyway.
is this sophia????
what the fuck
 
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No one is claiming Sophia doesn't experience pleasure from sexual activities, at the end of the day she's got a human body with all that entails. But by her own statement, she treats this sphere as completely perfunctory, something she doesn't pay any real thought.
To think someone who doesn't really enjoy something actually enjoyed it because they went along with it, that's just wishful thinking. It's like concluding someone who doesn't enjoy classical music actually enjoyed a concert they've attended at their partner's insistence, because they were ok with going together rather than object. Following this logic the Carnations also have nothing but thrill and fun with what they're subjected to, because they consent to it.
While Sex might not play a big role in Sophia´s life, she is not made from sugar frosting, as you also said. Still you discount that part of her saying this was to rile up Kathleen.
As for the gangbang, we have word of god that she was at least partly into it and what also flies a bit under the radar of the discussion: Abel very rarely orders Sophia to do something and she is at the end of the day his heir. And van Doren does not strike me as a guy giving the future of his medical empire into the hands of a yesman doormat. There is more to it than the obvious.


Sure, it absolutely isn't because Van Doren is old, narcissistic creep who enjoys showing off his power. Not at all. It's a carefully arranged charade and he actually weeps every time he has to subject his beloved assistant and heir to it, to maintain the illusion.
The last sentence was uncalled for, because it is clear you made the argument in bad faith. A part, but just a part, is Abel showing off being one of the big whales in town, yes. But if you read all the stuff about Abel and Sophia more closely, you see clearly that they are NOT there for the reasons the other members are!
Chuck is one of the few who knows that the offical reason the two are in PC is complete bogus! Abel and Sophia have their own black ops labs, testing the new drug at PC (which is a potential danger to being discovered) is completely unnecessary. But Chuck looks at this point only from his own PoV (Abel being another deviant) and I think he underestimates the situation.
We can learn that Abel and Sophia not just dislike the PC leadership, they actually loath them, Chuck the most. The two support Kathleen´s bid for power, but just because it helps to further their own goals, which certainly differ from hers.
I mentioned it before, going by what we can learn throughout the game, Abel and Sophia want either revenge for something that happened in the past or want to screw over Chuck. They might want to take over the club for some currently unknown reasons and it is also possible the two are punchclock villains.


You simply not seeing it does not make it less true! Do not only look at Edwin as your alter ego, think about his possible backgrounds. Then look at what Sophia and the MC talk about and Sophia in general. Edwin also has/had times of serious detachment, he also normally thinks about something, before doing it.
Remember Sophia is creeping out even our residential sadist and schemer Kathleen, no one at the Club beside Abel has something like normal conversations with her until our MC comes around. I posted the screenshot in the earlier post with a reason! Those two can click with each other and that is the reason they find it so easy to talk. And you cannot click with someone you cannot relate to.
 
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