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CorprealFale

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So, you are a rich powerful person who can have almost any girl. You know for sure that she is a gold digger who cheated on her husband, almost certainly ruined his political career and social reputation, voluntarily degraded and humiliated herself to the lowest level. Would you marry her or have business with her? Honestly?
As you said. I can have whatever girl I want.

If I'd want one that had been a prostitute? So the fuck what.
We also know that she's a trophy wife, not a gold digger. Those are very different.
 

Beduin123

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Now imagine if someone answers you with "I don't really give a damn about any of that."
Well, the problem is that the people who do big business do care. One thing is to fuck nameless girls in a sex club. Another is to connect your whole future life and business with someone like that.

Especially in the context of the husband being a douchebag who had it all coming for him?
That's exactly what they do not care. They are all like him. At least in the game.

a smart, funny, intelligent, talented and beautiful person to "but she debased herself in a sex club!" as if it decides all her worth.
I told me a few times about my (wrong) prospective. But now you speak completely out of your prospective. In the world where money, power and reputation matter so much, who cares about "smart, funny, intelligent, talented and beautiful person". Well, beautiful may be. Like the car you have shown. She is an item for them, like Sofia is an item for Abel. They don't care how talented and funny she is. They can buy a whole circus or theater to perform for them all day

If that's not a hint you're severely overestimating their moral code and who they're willing to deal with for personal benefit, i don't know what is.
What is in the Club stays in the Club. Why shall they mix it with their business or personal lives? Give me one reason they may want Felicia as a business partner. They may snatch her as a prize wife, if they are not very fastidious. But is that what she want? I highly doubt.
 

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We also know that she's a trophy wife, not a gold digger. Those are very different.
She is called a gold digger many times in the game. Well, I guess you know better than the Devs :sneaky:

As you said. I can have whatever girl I want.
If I'd want one that had been a prostitute? So the fuck what.
Well, your choice, though that's may be why you are not a rich and powerful person. :cool: But even so, would you want to have business with her?
 

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Well, the problem is that the people who do big business do care.
Some do and some don't. How many times are we going to go in circle with this exchange, where you'll keep ignoring what's repeatedly being pointed out to you, that not all people are the same and think and act in the same way?

I told me a few times about my (wrong) prospective. But now you speak completely out of your prospective.
Absolutely, and that's the very point. I have different opinion on this matter than you do. The rich people will also, similarly, have different opinions of Felicia. There will be people who are going to be willing to make deals with her, no matter how impossible to accept such possibility seems to be for you.

What is in the Club stays in the Club. Why shall they mix it with their business or personal lives?
It's funny you should say that, when at the same time you're using "what Felicia did in the club" as argument why people wouldn't want to do business with Felicia or have her in their social circle outside of the club. What just happened to that supposed separation? Why would they mix events from the club (which "stay in the club") with their business or personal lives? Outside of the club Felicia is a respected socialite and as such an excellent candidate for business and social gatherings.

If you are posing that yes, what Felicia did in the club affects how people will deal with her when it comes to business and personal lives, well, then you'll have to accept apparently there isn't a hard rule about never mixing these two things. Your own argument is based on this. You can't have it in opposite ways in two different claims you're making at the same time.
 

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If I'd want one that had been a prostitute? So the fuck what.
Being able "to have almost any girl" includes the ability to have exactly the girl one wants. As opposed to what a narrowminded part of society will see as appropriate.
Just to sum this kind of arguments up. I know Caligula made his horse a Roman senator. Fuck, because he could.
Now tell me: was that a cunning plan of the horse to become a Roman senator? :ROFLMAO:
I hope you can see the similarity with your line of argument.

Outside of the club Felicia is a respected socialite and as such an excellent candidate for business and social gatherings.
Did she show any prowess for business before? I thought her skill was to become a trophy wife. And part of the trophy wife appeal is the behavior and reputation. Have you seen how well Felicia behaves around Elias?

PS Damn, and those people call me stubborn. :cool:
 
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Just to sum this kind of arguments up. I know Caligula made his horse a Roman senator. Fuck, because he could.
Now tell me: was that a cunning plan of the horse to become a Roman senator? :ROFLMAO:
I hope you can see the similarity with your line of argument.



Did she show any prowess for business before? I thought her skill was to become a trophy wife. And part of the trophy wife appeal is the behavior and reputation. Have you seen how well Felicia behaves around Elias?

PS Damn, and those people call me stubborn. :cool:
Something you have overlooked among the patrons of the club is they will do things just to spite another member. It has happened before where one of the members does something just to piss off another member. Think it may have been taken his favorite girl just before he got there or something like that. So imagine felicia is here and offers a deal to which you would definitely turn her down because she's a whore, scum, whatever. Now imagine how many other readers would support/work with her just to piss you off. There is your WHY they would do it no other reason needed.
 

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IMO imagining that Felicia has some great plan ignores a central theme of the story: Desperation. All three women in the contest are desperate in their own way for a shot at freedom from their current life. Felicia may present as more self-assured, but she's really just as desperate as they are.

Her scheme isn't some brilliant move of 8D chess; it is a Hail Mary.
 

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i think the better question is what happened to the previous carnations AFTER the events
so far all we have seen are hints about the last years winner becoming a successful movie star but nobody not even ian or hana mentions what happened to the previous losers
i always assumed kathy paid them off some hush money and moved on but for some reason she has recruited lucy who didn't even make it to the final selection process
one could argue kathy keeps her around because her patrons like Isak likes her but if that was the case then surely at least one of these men must have liked one of the previous girls who happened to be a loser and could have requested kathy to make them a house girl like lucy
the most simplest conclusion is that the men don't care enough about the girls themselves and since they see fresh "meat" come and go every season of the games i don't think they care enough to help felicia with whatever she is trying to pull off
whether its some sort of blackmail or schemes that she is planning
 
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Something you have overlooked among the patrons of the club is they will do things just to spite another member. It has happened before where one of the members does something just to piss off another member. Think it may have been taken his favorite girl just before he got there or something like that. So imagine felicia is here and offers a deal to which you would definitely turn her down because she's a whore, scum, whatever. Now imagine how many other readers would support/work with her just to piss you off. There is your WHY they would do it no other reason needed.
They just need to show to Elias and may be (or may be not) to other high society people around the city that his wife is a whore. Which, I believe, is well on the way and Felicia did a lot to bring it upon Elias and herself. They don't need to do business with her or financially support her the rest of her life to fuck Elias' career and social status. Isn't it easy to understand?
 
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i think the better question is what happened to the previous carnations AFTER the events
so far all we have seen are hints about the last years winner becoming a successful movie star but nobody not even ian or hana mentions what happened to the previous losers
1) Hana and Ian never mentioned any former carnation anyways;

2) the movie star is mentioned by Kathleen while speaking with the police chief;

3) Hana never met the movie star - it happened before she joined:

4) Ian doesn't give a damn about house girls and Carnations - he talked about Darius and Isla only because Edwin questioned him.
 

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i think the better question is what happened to the previous carnations AFTER the events
so far all we have seen are hints about the last years winner becoming a successful movie star but nobody not even ian or hana mentions what happened to the previous losers
*crowd chants* Fireball! Fireball! Fireball!
 
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