VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[camube]

And what about those who don't have that trait? The traits don't affect the story that much, until now it changed very little elements and it'll stay like that imo.

If he burn the club, he'd have to go on the run not to be killed by the club owners as he would be the first suspect. Didn't you get what happened to his predecessor for less than that?

then those players don't get to burn the club? there are other ways to do things if multiple endings is the aim.

i don't remember whether i read it here or in some other place but i read that either gil or td or both like or took inspiration from Starless. And in Starless the protagonist can run away from the mansion in some routes, and stay in the mansion in some other routes. So i'm guessing the end of pale carnation would have burn the club, run the club, or simply end the tenure with not much fanfare as three of the possible endings.

i don't think a mad Hana would have the same ending with a chill Hana and i hope a bro relationship Edwin-Ian would lead to a different ending with Edwin that doesn't have good relation with Ian.

I do think burning would be one of the option leading to the ending though imo

 

[ArsenHumby]

Weird we haven't got a Dev Diary from mid august to now

 

[TD1900]

Weird we haven't got a Dev Diary from mid august to now

No, it's not.

Sometimes we do two weeks if GIL doesn't have any bonus images on the back burner, but three weeks is pretty typical.

Dev diary -> Preview Image -> Bonus Art -> Dev diary, and so on.

 

[ArsenHumby]

No, it's not.

Sometimes we do two weeks if GIL doesn't have any bonus images on the back burner, but three weeks is pretty typical.

Dev diary -> Preview Image -> Bonus Art -> Dev diary, and so on.

I get it, i thought it was bi-weekly looking at the last one, my bad

 

[Simpgor]

The way I see it, the avalanche has already started. Kathleen is planning to rock the Club to its core as part of whatever her scheme is, so the Club is changing one way or the other. The MC's only vote is to nudge things in a particular direction by pushing in the right place at the right time. That could have a wide range of possible outcomes, from new leadership to a new 'business' model all the way to shuttering the Club entirely, but things will not remain as they have been.

Assuming the Club survives this upcoming crisis in one form or another, presumably we will also have a choice about whether the MC stays for the long haul or leaves once the drama is over, but I definitely think there could be ways for the MC could burn the Club down (literally or figuratively) and get away with it during the confusion.

I mean there could be an ending where he "burns down the club"....but gets away with it? That I doubt... and for sure he won't get away with it and then have a happy ending with anybody who has been involved with it at all.... like would nobody think to go check with Edwin's mom after he disappears after a fire? Not his best friend Ian, or his "mentor" Chuck? Not his potential girlfriend or her gansgter dad that employed him? Do they all just assume he died in the fire? Or does literally anybody who has ties to the illegal sex club (even people Edwin likes) die in the fire?

I think sticky fingers is more likely to get us to a "shut the club down and get away with it ending" maybe by stealing some of the (likely) illegal experimental drugs that Kath is using to experiment on unwilling or uninformed humans? But like dolfe67 said I don't think the traits (even Firestarter) will be used ONLY to get an exclusive ending (one that most people could see as potentially the "correct" choice).

Maybe the recently completed Kath scene is TD new favorite because they finally got an excuse to use the Firestarter trait!

 

[pinuz1]

eh, could be, I can get along with that
plus IIRC one of the recent previews actually featured Andrea, so that also corroborates your theory

or Sofia perhaps, everything kinda points towards the fact that she's going to be fucking obliterated somewhere along the road.

I don't think Sofia would be considered a random "side girl" by now, with how many people want her to get a scene, whenever that is going to happen, I think the devs will make more hype around it, instead of keeping it secret, tho who knows. I fully agree she's going to get obliterated at some point tho, and I can't fucking wait for it .

Also yea, I'm like 99% sure Andrea is the lucky gal, might just be the thing I'm the most hypped about next update now, tho we still don't know if it was a big scene or just a small one.

 

[Ottoeight]

I don't think Sofia would be considered a random "side girl" by now, with how many people want her to get a scene, whenever that is going to happen, I think the devs will make more hype around it, instead of keeping it secret, tho who knows. I fully agree she's going to get obliterated at some point tho, and I can't fucking wait for it .

"how many people" my ass.

As far as I can remember there was a single dude who started a crusade on her behalf.

 

[Dr. Mick]

Hopefully Edwin can give her his undivided attention. I am starving for a full Kat scene since, I don´t know, the birthday gift in week 2?

Is that what the "gift" led to, a scene with Kat? I'm even more glad I rejected it now. I initially did it to save the poor girl Kat had hanging from the ceiling, but if it also meant avoiding Kat getting any pleasure out of it that's even better.

The way I see it, the avalanche has already started. Kathleen is planning to rock the Club to its core as part of whatever her scheme is, so the Club is changing one way or the other. The MC's only vote is to nudge things in a particular direction by pushing in the right place at the right time. That could have a wide range of possible outcomes, from new leadership to a new 'business' model all the way to shuttering the Club entirely, but things will not remain as they have been.

Assuming the Club survives this upcoming crisis in one form or another, presumably we will also have a choice about whether the MC stays for the long haul or leaves once the drama is over, but I definitely think there could be ways for the MC could burn the Club down (literally or figuratively) and get away with it during the confusion.

Really looking forward to seeing how this goes. I'm hoping that the MC will have a hand in influencing the outcome of what Kat is planning so that it blows up in her face. Be even better if Chuck somehow gets dragged down with her; perhaps through a connection with the scientist and his "assistant".

Maybe the recently completed Kath scene is TD new favorite because they finally got an excuse to use the Firestarter trait!

If it means they get to set something of Kat's on fire, then I'm all for it.

 

[ename144]

I mean there could be an ending where he "burns down the club"....but gets away with it? That I doubt... and for sure he won't get away with it and then have a happy ending with anybody who has been involved with it at all.... like would nobody think to go check with Edwin's mom after he disappears after a fire? Not his best friend Ian, or his "mentor" Chuck? Not his potential girlfriend or her gansgter dad that employed him? Do they all just assume he died in the fire? Or does literally anybody who has ties to the illegal sex club (even people Edwin likes) die in the fire?

I think sticky fingers is more likely to get us to a "shut the club down and get away with it ending" maybe by stealing some of the (likely) illegal experimental drugs that Kath is using to experiment on unwilling or uninformed humans? But like dolfe67 said I don't think the traits (even Firestarter) will be used ONLY to get an exclusive ending (one that most people could see as potentially the "correct" choice).

Maybe the recently completed Kath scene is TD new favorite because they finally got an excuse to use the Firestarter trait!

I think you misunderstand what I'm saying. The MC won't be blamed for destroying the Club because it will have very nearly disintegrated all on it's own thanks to Kathleen's nuclear gambit. We'll likely have opportunities to influence how the carnage plays out by siding with different factions at various opportunities, but to the outside observer the MC will very much look like the little fish rather than the main instigator.

Unless we make a direct bid to control things ourselves, of course; presumably that will be a possibility, but I doubt the MC would try such a thing if all he wants to do is shut the whole thing down immediately afterwards.

 

[Simpgor]

I think you misunderstand what I'm saying. The MC won't be blamed for destroying the Club because it will have very nearly disintegrated all on it's own thanks to Kathleen's nuclear gambit. We'll likely have opportunities to influence how the carnage plays out by siding with different factions at various opportunities, but to the outside observer the MC will very much look like the little fish rather than the main instigator.

Unless we make a direct bid to control things ourselves, of course; presumably that will be a possibility, but I doubt the MC would try such a thing if all he wants to do is shut the whole thing down immediately afterwards.

I think we have a diffrent view on what Kats gambit is/will mean. IIRC she says that she's going to be risking everything to Edwin but I took that as a "if I get caught I'll be voted out/removed" rather than "if this goes wrong somehow the club will literally burn down".

Would you mind sharing any idea about what you think her gambit could be? Not even detailed but moreso just in scope because I struggle to think of anything she can do that would risk the "whole club" instead of her personally while still logically serving her goals.

Even an outlandish and silly plan like kathleen killing both Chuck and August on stage during the finale doesn't really cause enough panic/distraction for Edwin?

Edit: The drugs she's been testing with Van Doren seem like the obvious choice for the gambit but that again doesn't really "burn the Club down" or even change anything other than people will be more aroused lol.

 

[uda123ca]

brothel game, so the girls in the game are mostly prostitutes?

 

[The Senior Perv]

Dev Diary 81

TD here, coming off the top rope with a dev diary.

Currently Ch4Up5 sits at 2,091 statics, 61 animatons, and 39,152 words.

That means 226 statics, 10 animations, and 4,873 words have been added to the project since the last report.

Things are wrapping up with the big Kathleen scene for this update. The image work might be finished today or should be finished tomorrow. Either way, we'll be breaking ground on the big multi-character event that will be the final feather in the update's cap.

In other news, I've taken to learning some rudimentary video editing so that we can better integrate sound into our scenes. It's been a lot of fun! That's part of my love of developing an AVN; it asks a lot of different things from you and learning is its reward. But yeah... expect some nasty noises from our work with Kat.

Welp, I'll end it here.

Thank you so much for your interest and support.

 

[Takkatakka]

View attachment 4014023

Dev Diary 81

TD here, coming off the top rope with a dev diary.

Currently Ch4Up5 sits at 2,091 statics, 61 animatons, and 39,152 words.

That means 226 statics, 10 animations, and 4,873 words have been added to the project since the last report.

Things are wrapping up with the big Kathleen scene for this update. The image work might be finished today or should be finished tomorrow. Either way, we'll be breaking ground on the big multi-character event that will be the final feather in the update's cap.

In other news, I've taken to learning some rudimentary video editing so that we can better integrate sound into our scenes. It's been a lot of fun! That's part of my love of developing an AVN; it asks a lot of different things from you and learning is its reward. But yeah... expect some nasty noises from our work with Kat.

Welp, I'll end it here.

Thank you so much for your interest and support.

That's Jessica from Ripples, right?

 

[Elduriel]

That's Jessica from Ripples, right?

indeed it's her

 

[ename144]

View attachment 4014023

Dev Diary 81

TD here, coming off the top rope with a dev diary.

Currently Ch4Up5 sits at 2,091 statics, 61 animatons, and 39,152 words.

That means 226 statics, 10 animations, and 4,873 words have been added to the project since the last report.

Things are wrapping up with the big Kathleen scene for this update. The image work might be finished today or should be finished tomorrow. Either way, we'll be breaking ground on the big multi-character event that will be the final feather in the update's cap.

In other news, I've taken to learning some rudimentary video editing so that we can better integrate sound into our scenes. It's been a lot of fun! That's part of my love of developing an AVN; it asks a lot of different things from you and learning is its reward. But yeah... expect some nasty noises from our work with Kat.

Welp, I'll end it here.

Thank you so much for your interest and support.

Yay, new numbers! TD already gave us the raw totals, but he and GIL have completed an average of roughly 75 statics, 3.3 animations and 1624 words per week since the last Dev Diary 21 days ago. Overall, that gives them an average of ~93 statics, 2.7 animations and 1746 words per week since work on Chapter 4 Update 5 began. Here are the charts for Week 22:

Spoiler: Still Charting Silently

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Looks like we're approaching the final lap, though this is a big course so we still have a while to wait. But I'm very eager to see what hints we can get about this big multi-character extravaganza - and obviously to play it eventually, too. As for the improved sound effects, not going to lie, I'm pretty nervous about it. I rarely like sound effects in lewd scenes, and I just as rarely have the stomach for Kathleen's take on a lewd scene. So this could have some major squick potential. Still, you can't win them all; as long as they're hooked up to the sound sliders in the Settings menu, all will be will.

And now for a completely random aside. I opened the game's Settings menu while writing this, just verify the term used. While there I thought I accidentally clicked one of the buttons, at which point I realized I have no clue what the different 'Skip' buttons actually mean! That made it very hard to work out what I might have done.

Opening an older copy of the game, I realized that while the buttons themselves are the same, the labels they used to have were apparently removed when the image of the girls was enhanced. The original image was glaringly bright so the change was a good one, but could we get the labels back?

 

[Babusfrisco123!]

Not yet but that is the mother of all Damocles swords to have hanging over the MC, just waiting to drop. The MC was right when he said that neither he nor Hana are ready for a proper relationship and Ian was right when he said that when this doesn't work the MC would still have to work with Hana. So I figured it was the best for the MC to just promise to be there for her but to leave it as a open relationship than committing to being her boyfriend...it just seems like the best course of action for everyone.

I just finished the current update, and even when I told Felicia that Hana is my gf she said something like "that will probably go up in flames". Which I hope it doesn't mean that HANA will cheat or do something to the player because if so... she's getting bodied after all the good times I had to say no to.

 

[Deyn21]

brothel game, so the girls in the game are mostly prostitutes?

It's not brothel game. So no.

 

[Dark479]

I just finished the current update, and even when I told Felicia that Hana is my gf she said something like "that will probably go up in flames". Which I hope it doesn't mean that HANA will cheat or do something to the player because if so... she's getting bodied after all the good times I had to say no to.

I don't think that it means that at all...but if you are on the paths for a bunch of the other girls the MC cheating on Hana is just about unavoidable and she will not take that well when she finds out...THAT will blow up in your face. Personally I would not give up on Mina for Hana, no way...plus I like the arrangement with Felicia too. I have no interest in the game starting to add up cheating points in the background for every time I fool around outside of the club.

 

[uda123ca]

It's not brothel game. So no.

it's a club where we have sharing content, right? pls no, thanks

 

[Simpgor]

brothel game, so the girls in the game are mostly prostitutes?

Depends on how "cucky" about it you want be about it for lack of a better term.

Like girls on screen? (With no regards to if they have route) yes all but like 2-5 girls and at this point only 1 main girl you interact with are somehow involved in the club

Girls that are LI? Objectively no none of the LI are prostitutes whose normal job is to suck dick for cash.

Girls that are LI viewed from a less reasonable angle: 3 of the 5 (or 6) """""""main girls"''""'""" are prostitutes (being compensated to enter the sex club as a "willing participant")

Girls that are LI viewed from someone sadly fragile: every single one of the girls is a dirty whore, 3 are involved in the competition, 1 runs it, 1 is a bartender there (who even is forced to dress slutty! The whore!), and 1 basically lies to everyone she meets and wants to be "messed up sexually"!!!!1

Obviously feel free to play regardless of which camp you are in but the lower you go down the list the higher your chances of us shitting on you is (assuming you post about it)