VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[XLSergioXL]

Good Lord...


1. your saves are into your Users/[your name]/AppData/Roaming/Renpy/PaCaGame-1554919452 folder as well;

2. did you previously play a modded game? if the answer is YES, then your saves are your problem: they won't work until the mods get updated and you installed an updated mod;

3. you didn't previously play a modded game, but you merged some mod into the game folder: the mods are your problem because they need to be updated;

4. none of the above? dunno what to say.

I won't answer you anymore.

Thank you very much. I used mod. Maybe I should wait for its update. Without one I feel totally lost.

 

[joryh]

any heroes with the bugfixed version? started a fresh run and the font size is killing me halfway thru...

Can't even see the font. Every save file just bugs out and drops me at starting a new game.

 

[NH_Ash]

I see in memory have some scenes from the Hana rock show, but I can't seem to grasp the overall story. After my date with Felicia, it already showed the end of the version. Did I miss anything?

 

[ffive]

I see in memory have some scenes from the Hana rock show, but I can't seem to grasp the overall story. After my date with Felicia, it already showed the end of the version. Did I miss anything?

Try to rollback your save a few steps and then play from that point. It sounds like your save is from past the bridge from last update to the new one.

 

[Ottoeight]

Thank you very much. I used mod. Maybe I should wait for its update. Without one I feel totally lost.

Maybe you should stop using mods and wait for the pdf walkthrough update made by Mr Bubu.

I see in memory have some scenes from the Hana rock show, but I can't seem to grasp the overall story. After my date with Felicia, it already showed the end of the version. Did I miss anything?

Oh well. Here we go again.

 

[sunaboz]

Wanna make a bet?

I don't bet but even if I would, we will learn about it in 5 years or more. As for Ian, if he will settle with anyone it certainly won't be that hairdresser. Besides Mina I can see him with Hana. They have the best chemistry out of all characters and we can clearly see that Hana has changed her mind about Ian (even told Edwin to invite him to her concert) and we know that Ian likes Hana (he said so in this update). Them being PC owners successors makes them even easier to connect.

But yeah, we will see. Such option (Hana or Mina) will certainly be not met enthusiastically by psycho fans who worship Hana/Mina (and there are a lot of those).

Regarding Sophia - I agree that we won't have a date but I'm sure we will have sex. She had already handjobbed Edwin (assuming we preferred her over Kat) while he was watching carnations being punished and she is open for sex, plus Abel has offered her at least once so I doubt we won't see some fanservice.

As for Isla and Darius - while Isla might be well, Darius is definitely not.

But personal likes/dislkes aside, at the end of the day Sophia is one of the most interesting characters in the game.

Most interesting? Why do you think that?

 

[Ottoeight]

Can't even see the font. Every save file just bugs out and drops me at starting a new game.

A MESSAGE TO EVERYBODY

THIS IS A REN'PY GAME

Just press shift + A on your PC keyboard and change font and size:

 

[ffive]

They have the best chemistry out of all characters and we can clearly see that Hana has changed her mind about Ian

There's also this variant of Hana/Mina talk, if you didn't push Mina towards girls:

            mina "...do you want me to back off?"
            hana "Like I said... we're not dating."
            mina "I know from personal experience that doesn't mean feelings aren't involved."
            hana "...yeah, but it is what is. It might not end pretty, but..."
            hana "...shit, I want to get to know you better. I don't want to budge on a thing."
            hana "We have so much in common, including our taste in men apparently."
            mina "...if that's true, does that mean you think Ian's hot?"
            hana "Fuck no! I mean, as far as looks go, I guess--"
            hana "*Sigh* Let's get you home."
            mina "...alright."

 

[Ottoeight]

SECOND MESSAGE TO EVERYBODY:

your saves won't work because of you.

How many times must we remind people that your modded saves - ANY modded save in ANY modded game - ONLY work IF AND WHEN the mod GETS UPDATED?

 

[Ottoeight]

I don't bet but even if I would, we will learn about it in 5 years or more. As for Ian, if he will settle with anyone it certainly won't be that hairdresser. Besides Mina I can see him with Hana. They have the best chemistry out of all characters and we can clearly see that Hana has changed her mind about Ian (even told Edwin to invite him to her concert) and we know that Ian likes Hana (he said so in this update). Them being PC owners successors makes them even easier to connect.

But yeah, we will see. Such option (Hana or Mina) will certainly be not met enthusiastically by psycho fans who worship Hana/Mina (and there are a lot of those).

Regarding Sophia - I agree that we won't have a date but I'm sure we will have sex. She had already handjobbed Edwin (assuming we preferred her over Kat) while he was watching carnations being punished and she is open for sex, plus Abel has offered her at least once so I doubt we won't see some fanservice.

As for Isla and Darius - while Isla might be well, Darius is definitely not.


Most interesting? Why do you think that?

There's also this variant of Hana/Mina talk, if you didn't push Mina towards girls:

            mina "...do you want me to back off?"
            hana "Like I said... we're not dating."
            mina "I know from personal experience that doesn't mean feelings aren't involved."
            hana "...yeah, but it is what is. It might not end pretty, but..."
            hana "...shit, I want to get to know you better. I don't want to budge on a thing."
            hana "We have so much in common, including our taste in men apparently."
            mina "...if that's true, does that mean you think Ian's hot?"
            hana "Fuck no! I mean, as far as looks go, I guess--"
            hana "*Sigh* Let's get you home."
            mina "...alright."

Hana is simply telling Mina that she's aware that Mina has the hots for Edwin.

I think that you guys are starting to forget that Edwin is the MC, not Ian.

The dude who's supposed to score chicks is the Main Character, not his buddy.

 

[ffive]

Hana is simply telling Mina that she's aware that Mina has the hots for Edwin.

Not quite. Hana all but confirms here in response to Mina's question that she finds Ian sexually attractive.

I think that you guys are starting to forget that Edwin in the MC, not Ian.

The dude who's supposed to score chicks is the Main Character, not his buddy.

Well that's a fair point :v

But i think this might be left as option for e.g. scenario where the player opts to ultimately focus on Mina as his gf (taking the public kiss option at the concert etc) which would leave Hana and Ian as a potential "other" pair. Having these 4 end up like this could be pretty cute. And Hana is probably best equipped to handle Ian's bullshit

 

[Ungawa]

Not quite. Hana all but confirms here in response to Mina's question that she finds Ian sexually attractive.

... Yes... But... Remember that those two are like oil and water in the fact that they don't mix and the entire early game is about establishing a big reason they won't ever want to get emotionally involved unless both change very drastically as characters.

Well that's a fair point :v

But i think this might be left as option for e.g. scenario where the player opts to ultimately focus on Mina as his gf (taking the public kiss option at the concert etc) which would leave Hana and Ian as a potential "other" pair. Having these 4 end up like this could be pretty cute. And Hana is probably best equipped to handle Ian's bullshit

Cute, maybe.

But the writing on that is incredibly messy when emotions are involved and they've been established as antagonistic for very good reasons.

 

[Turret]

SECOND MESSAGE TO EVERYBODY:

your saves won't work because of you.

How many times must we remind people that your modded saves - ANY modded save in ANY modded game - ONLY work IF AND WHEN the mod GETS UPDATED?

I like the intensity of your answers here!

 

[ffive]

... Yes... But... Remember that those two are like oil and water in the fact that they don't mix and the entire early game is about establishing a big reason they won't ever want to get emotionally involved unless both change very drastically as characters.

I think this is why people talk about Hana and Ian pairing in the context of Ian who has undergone the introspective, as opposed to his regular douchy self.

 

[Ungawa]

I think this is why people talk about Hana and Ian pairing in the context of Ian who has undergone the introspective, as opposed to his regular douchy self.

Okay, he's in the process of introspection but going for Hana, who's his boss, over the regular girls, as well as all the issues that come with that are still on the table. There'd have to be a regression of Hana to go out with Ian when she knows the history and she's not just going to forgive what he did to Mina same as Felicia, although she's caught up in Carnation business.

 

[Garen]

 

[colombianhoes]

colombianhoes

It's interesting you're so sure of that when it's just as plausible (that she will go back to Ian) as Edwin staying her boyfriend. And she has hots for EVERYONE, even that supposedly handsome, big nosed guy at the party:

Spoiler: handsome guy

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I'm guessing we as players will decide how it will turn out. If we will be bros to Ian and not pursue Mina ourselves it's very likely that Mina will go back to her ex. This is what Mina had to say about Ian:

"I like that Ian can still surprise me. He's goofy and it's almost like he's stumbling through life with blinders on, but sometimes he blindly walks into making a girl feel special"

She was pretty shaken-up for a reason after their break-up.

Now that she will have her "revenge" and that Ian will make an effort (his apology is the first step, although it depends on us whether we will help or not) I'm pretty sure it will be one of available endings.

Yeah, thats what i thought as well as an possibility. Idk what that other guy problem is tho.
The game just doesnt show it fast enough to decide, like saying ok this is happening right now, but in this case, yet again, gotta wait for another version to see whats up before i decide i wanna play that route.

 

[ffive]

There'd have to be a regression of Hana to go out with Ian when she knows the history and she's not just going to forgive what he did to Mina same as Felicia, although she's caught up in Carnation business.

Ehh, let's not forget that Hana is potentially going out with MC who can be all kinds of asshole to the club girls and/or carnations. While, granted, it does impact her opinion of MC in such scenario, I think she's more flexible in this regard than you give her credit for.

 

[Ungawa]

Ehh, let's not forget that Hana is potentially going out with MC who can be all kinds of asshole to the club girls and/or carnations. I think she's more flexible in this regard than you give her credit for.

But this isn't only a focus on Hana. It's that their relationship is already an antagonistic one. Sure, MC can do this. But she's been in the club seeing Ian at his worst and hedonistic and it's harder to establish trust within a month of that stature. Not that it can't be done, but she'd have to be extremely skeptical of the transformation as Ian is going through it. I'm not saying that it can't be something eventually, as the drinking game does show cordiality, but it would take a lot more writing than possibly keeping it off the table and maybe in the epilogue if I'm being honest.

 

[Turret]

Well, now I'm pretty sure that we're seeing a lot of things quite differently.
Wanna make a bet?
- Mina won't go back to Ian no matter what. Ian will settle with Alice/the hairdresser by the story epilogue (if he settles with somebody).

I would not disregard a reconciliation of the two completely, esp. if we get Ian onto the introspection path and help him otherwise as well. Still, your bet might be correct on them staying apart.
Also while a bit an "out there" option, Ian and Viktoria coming together in the epilog is not impossible. Improbable, but not impossible, but hinges IMO on how the Vicki-Grace crisis gets solved too.

My second bet is:
- even though we might see more scenes involving lewd activity between Edwin and Sophia, we won't have any proper sex scene / date between them.

Won´t surprise you that I sincerely hope you are incorrect with this, even if it is a probable situation. But I would be happy with a "tame" date if that would foster a romance of the MC and Sophia in the end.
Actually, Vicki´s problem with Grace (Chuck´s sister!) could be an opportunity to call Sophia for help. Abel and Sophia loath Chuck the most from the PC leadership. And Grace made the mistake to threaten the currently most important person in the MC´s life, his Mom. I am sure Abel and Sophia would like to get ammo against Chuck.

My third bet is:
- Darius and Isla are alive and well.

This has a quite high probability. But it is not a sure thing, since we know that the Club does not shy away from eliminating those getting in the way. See Olli, but he brought it onto himself. August pulled a classic "Make him an offer he can´t refuse" and Olli was dumb enough to disregard the old saying "Watch old people in professions where you do not get old."