Draim

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Do you need to change a lot in the game's plot to make Edwin an adopted/stepson in order to fuck Victoria?
Because the rules of patreon forbade incest.
 
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Do you need to change a lot in the game's plot to make Edwin an adopted/stepson in order to fuck Victoria?
Because the rules of patreon forbade incest.
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Actually it is pretty easy: you just need to rewrite every single dialogue between Edwin and his mom and every single dialogue about them and their relationship.
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What the hell!
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Question if you want the ending with Mina and Hana what choices should you make do you need to not have sex with Mina after you become official or is it only during the Felicity date you need to not invite Mina
 

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Actually it is pretty easy: you just need to rewrite every single dialogued between Edwin and his mom and every single dialogue about them and their relationship.
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What the hell!
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It doesn't sound difficult :)
 

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Question if you want the ending with Mina and Hana what choices should you make do you need to not have sex with Mina after you become official or is it only during the Felicity date you need to not invite Mina
I dunno what you mean since by ending because it still I think halfway through the story maybe a little more.. But if you are talking about the Hana Mina scene from last updates the requirements are:

- Be on Hana's fuckbuddies route
- Be on Mina's route (Either cheat with her on Ian or choose to sleep with her after the fact if you have enough affection score with her)
- Have Mina's Bi-curious score be 5 or above. You've got to pick choices at several points on the game that rise the score. Check the walkthrough for more info

Also I think that at the concert you have to kiss Hana at the stage but I'm not quite sure and the bicurious score thing it's mandatory for the gallery scene if not you will get a different scene and Mina won't makeout with Hana.
 

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I dunno what you mean since by ending because it still I think halfway through the story maybe a little more.. But if you are talking about the Hana Mina scene from last updates the requirements are:

- Be on Hana's fuckbuddies route
- Be on Mina's route (Either cheat with her on Ian or choose to sleep with her after the fact if you have enough affection score with her)
- Have Mina's Bi-curious score be 5 or above. You've got to pick choices at several points on the game that rise the score. Check the walkthrough for more info

Also I think that at the concert you have to kiss Hana at the stage but I'm not quite sure and the bicurious score thing it's mandatory for the gallery scene if not you will get a different scene and Mina won't makeout with Hana.
Huh so to get the Hana and Mina route you need to not be in an official relationship with either by the end of the update guess i have some backtracking to do:oops:
 

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Question if you want the ending with Mina and Hana what choices should you make do you need to not have sex with Mina after you become official or is it only during the Felicity date you need to not invite Mina
Save and save often and don't overwrite your saves when an update comes out.



Anyway, she's Felicia.
 
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If you can romance/fool around with anyone on the Hana Fuck buddy path without having repercussions for cheating on her and possibly even get bothg her and Mina what is the benefit of having her as your gf
 
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If you can romance/fool around with anyone on the Hana Fuck buddy path without having repercussions for cheating on her and possibly even get bothg her and Mina what is the benefit of having her as your gf
Well, they know that. Devs have mentioned that they need to make Hana's GF path more enjoyable since we are losing content with most girls... and this upcoming update will possibly be the beginning of it.
 
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iirc the recent updates took 8 months? Is there a real chance this one will take maybe 9 or more? I know its hard to say so early, but I ask for a specific reason and maybe someone is familiar enough with the game and the creators to know.
There's definitely a real chance (the last update already took about 9 months, though it spanned two in-game days), but it's very hard to quantify that chance. It all comes down to how much content there will be in the update. Exhibitions are usually content heavy since there are a lot of sex scenes, plus some alternative paths to give our MC choices - to say nothing of all the plot and character development. With the stakes rising and Elias set to make his Club debut I do not believe this update will skimp on content, but what does that mean in terms of development time?

If we assume the most recent Dev Diary marks the effective start of work on the Exhibition itself, then assume the Exhibition will be roughly the same amount of material as the second Exhibition in Chapter 3 Update 4 (which took 167 days to develop), that would put our total development time at ~260 days or roughly 8.6 months. Of course, Ch3Up4 included some non-Exhibition content (mainly lunch with the Carnations), so maybe we could shave a little time off that estimate. Then again, with the story further along there's an argument to be made that Exhibition 3 will need to cover more material than Exhibition 2 did, so maybe our estimate is too conservative.

If you want my best guestimate, I'd expect this to run on the longer side; these things have a tendency to grow in the telling. But I wouldn't bet any money on that. If you want a more informed estimate, you'll need to get TD liquored up and see if he'll spill some details. Just don't overdo it: we need him back at work ASAP! :p

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Huh so to get the Hana and Mina route you need to not be in an official relationship with either by the end of the update guess i have some backtracking to do:oops:
Technically, you will get a version of the Hana/Mina scene if you formally commit to Hana and meet the other requirements, but it's one that ends with Mina realizing the MC effectively lied to Hana. I wouldn't expect that path to go anywhere pleasant.

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Content with the main or side girls?
Presumably you'll get unique content with Hana and lose out on non-Exhibition content with everyone else. That's the logical implication of committing to a monogamous relationship with her, no?
 
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As someone who played this game as a sadistic scumbag, dating Hana and immediately cheating on her was as natural as breathing. I haven't played since the update where you sleep with Mina and will probably wait until the next one drops, but I'm really curious about what will happen with Hana when she finds out.
 
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There's definitely a real chance (the last update already took about 9 months, though it spanned two in-game days), but it's very hard to quantify that chance. It all comes down to how much content there will be in the update. Exhibitions are usually content heavy since there are a lot of sex scenes, plus some alternative paths to give our MC choices - to say nothing of all the plot and character development. With the stakes rising and Elias set to make his Club debut I do not believe this update will skimp on content, but what does that mean in terms of development time?

If we assume the most recent Dev Diary marks the effective start of work on the Exhibition itself, then assume the Exhibition will be roughly the same amount of material as the second Exhibition in Chapter 3 Update 4 (which took 167 days to develop), that would put our total development time at ~260 days or roughly 8.6 months. Of course, Ch3Up4 included some non-Exhibition content (mainly lunch with the Carnations), so maybe we could shave a little time off that estimate. Then again, with the story further along there's an argument to be made that Exhibition 3 will need to cover more material than Exhibition 2 did, so maybe our estimate is too conservative.

If you want my best guestimate, I'd expect this to run on the longer side; these things have a tendency to grow in the telling. But I wouldn't bet any money on that. If you want a more informed estimate, you'll need to get TD liquored up and see if he'll spill some details. Just don't overdo it: we need him back at work ASAP! :p

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Thank you very much for the very detailed answer. Does the time count from the release date, in this case from the 10th of january?

Very kind of you to take the time to write this good reply. I appreciate it. And I think I may follow your advice with the liquor lol...
 
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There's definitely a real chance (the last update already took about 9 months, though it spanned two in-game days), but it's very hard to quantify that chance. It all comes down to how much content there will be in the update. Exhibitions are usually content heavy since there are a lot of sex scenes, plus some alternative paths to give our MC choices - to say nothing of all the plot and character development. With the stakes rising and Elias set to make his Club debut I do not believe this update will skimp on content, but what does that mean in terms of development time?

If we assume the most recent Dev Diary marks the effective start of work on the Exhibition itself, then assume the Exhibition will be roughly the same amount of material as the second Exhibition in Chapter 3 Update 4 (which took 167 days to develop), that would put our total development time at ~260 days or roughly 8.6 months. Of course, Ch3Up4 included some non-Exhibition content (mainly lunch with the Carnations), so maybe we could shave a little time off that estimate. Then again, with the story further along there's an argument to be made that Exhibition 3 will need to cover more material than Exhibition 2 did, so maybe our estimate is too conservative.

If you want my best guestimate, I'd expect this to run on the longer side; these things have a tendency to grow in the telling. But I wouldn't bet any money on that. If you want a more informed estimate, you'll need to get TD liquored up and see if he'll spill some details. Just don't overdo it: we need him back at work ASAP! :p

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TD1900 , ename144 suggested to get you liquored up to get you to talk, so...

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...so about that next release... ahem... is there a point where the two of you would say we split the update in two parts if it for example would take more than 10 months to release - or would you rather release it as one even if it would take 12 or more months? I know, very strange question, but its quite important to me and I would appreciate any kind of info on that end to plan ahead.

Also sorry for the watered-down beer...
 

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TD1900 , ename144 suggested to get you liquored up to get you to talk, so...

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...so about that next release... ahem... is there a point where the two of you would say we split the update in two parts if it for example would take more than 10 months to release - or would you rather release it as one even if it would take 12 or more months? I know, very strange question, but its quite important to me and I would appreciate any kind of info on that end to plan ahead.

Also sorry for the watered-down beer...
Lump sum is better for me. I can chew, I don't want little tiny bites.
 
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Thank you very much for the very detailed answer. Does the time count from the release date, in this case from the 10th of january?

Very kind of you to take the time to write this good reply. I appreciate it. And I think I may follow your advice with the liquor lol...
Release times are calculated from the initial release date of each update (so 2024-12-28 for Chapter 4 Update 6). This does introduce some potential weirdness as new tiers are added, but I think it's the simplest way to consistently track time spent creating an update.
 
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