VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[MWPA78]

Release times are calculated from the initial release date of each update (so 2024-12-28 for Chapter 4 Update 6). This does introduce some potential weirdness as new tiers are added, but I think it's the simplest way to consistently track time spent creating an update.

You answered every question I had, that could have been answered by you. Thank you! I wish that your day is a good one.

Kind Greetings

 

[Bobhanw]

Oh. i perfectly get that worry, honestly seeing the guy there makes my skin crawl. I guess the quote was at least in part so i could delude myself ease my own worries which are pretty similar.

Tbh ever since the second challenge i believe it was where the loser gets bukkaked and filmed i've always had the feeling we will eventually have to leave 1 if not all but 1of the girls to the club or even Donovan and his business and now Mina has met August who seemed very interested in her honestly i am kinda worried no matter how kind/helpful you are to the girls main or side unless the Mc somehow gets on top they wont all get out of this either okay or at all

 

[Ozymandias037]

I am pretty sure TD has said somewhere that we're not going to get a happy ending for everyone. Which makes sense given the circumstances. But it makes me sad, too.

 

[pinuz1]

I am pretty sure TD has said somewhere that we're not going to get a happy ending for everyone. Which makes sense given the circumstances. But it makes me sad, too.

Well, if at the end of the game we can just help every Carnation with their problem it would remove the stakes from the competition quite a bit, it really would depend on how generous TD feels about giving us a big happy ending, I'm personally all for it, but then you see all the comments of the people begging for an ending where all the girls end up as the clubs property and I do wonder what the general consensus even is, do people want the girls to be happy or not? .

I think it's rather doable to give every girl a happy ending, if I remember correctly Rose's debt wasn't actually that big, and I think Ian could borrow some money to Edwin so he can help her, for Veronica I've heard a few theories of Mina lending a hand with some type of marketing campaign to make her Gym start making money, etc, Felicia's definitely the only one where I can't really see how the MC could help her achieve her goal, though, maybe being her a sugar baby is all she really needs .

 

[MWPA78]

TD1900 , ename144 suggested to get you liquored up to get you to talk, so...

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...so about that next release... ahem... is there a point where the two of you would say we split the update in two parts if it for example would take more than 10 months to release - or would you rather release it as one even if it would take 12 or more months? I know, very strange question, but its quite important to me and I would appreciate any kind of info on that end to plan ahead.

Also sorry for the watered-down beer...

Seems beer was too watered-down...

 

[DETROIT123_io]

i am new to this game . Is their a walkthrough and are the updates very slow?

 

[torresm]

i am new to this game . Is their a walkthrough and are the updates very slow?

Right there in the first post, my man.

 

[TD1900]

TD1900 , ename144 suggested to get you liquored up to get you to talk, so...

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...so about that next release... ahem... is there a point where the two of you would say we split the update in two parts if it for example would take more than 10 months to release - or would you rather release it as one even if it would take 12 or more months? I know, very strange question, but its quite important to me and I would appreciate any kind of info on that end to plan ahead.

Also sorry for the watered-down beer...

The only thing I can say definitively is that Week 3 Saturday will be massive. Our biggest single day ever in terms of renders and animations. We are still in the early stages of the pre-exhibition free roam and we're already 800 images and 30 animations deep, although some of those animations are for future scenes.

Splitting Saturday across two updates is a possibility as there's a rise and fall to the free roam that would let us end there cleanly. However, we do not wish to do that out of fear of killing the story's already plodding momentum.

However, however... the existential dread of not releasing an update, going hungry for feedback, and living in the shadow of a still remaining mountain of work has not hit us yet. We are presently in the having a lot of fun stage of development, so it's too early to say where the line will be drawn.

 

[DETROIT123_io]

How to get perks like social chameleon . And I am thinking of supporting the developer , any idea how long each update takes??

 

[Takkatakka]

How to get perks like social chameleon . And I am thinking of supporting the developer , any idea how long each update takes??

Those perks come from the small backstory choices you make for your version of the MC at the beginning of the game.

For the social chameleon it's the following:

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Updates take...at what frequency are we now? Above half a year or so? Probably a bit longer, especially since they update seems to be pretty big.

 

[DETROIT123_io]

Those perks come from the small backstory choices you make for your version of the MC at the beginning of the game.

For the social chameleon it's the following:

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Updates take...at what frequency are we now? Above half a year or so? Probably a bit longer, especially since they update seems to be pretty big.

thanks for the info!! and dang the updates are long . My life could change in that time lol

 

[Takkatakka]

thanks for the info!! and dang the updates are long . My life could change in that time lol

Yeah...well...all high quality VNs on this site that have sizeable updates take about that long as far as I know. Some even considerable longer. That is just how it goes when only 1-2 people work on them.

The only way to have shorter update times seem to be to have either smaller or less quality updates. There is no magical way to produce high quality updates with lots of content in like a month.

 

[ename144]

How to get perks like social chameleon . And I am thinking of supporting the developer , any idea how long each update takes??

As Takkatakka mentioned, you pick one perk at the start of the game.

As for the development time, it's lengthy and the current update is likely to be the longest yet (though there is the possibility it will be split into two smaller updates to reduce the wait). It sucks, but that's the price to pay for quality when a game with plenty of choices gets into the later stages.

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Personally I think the game is more than worth the wait, but if you prefer shorter and more frequent updates it could be frustrating.

 

[MWPA78]

The only thing I can say definitively is that Week 3 Saturday will be massive. Our biggest single day ever in terms of renders and animations. We are still in the early stages of the pre-exhibition free roam and we're already 800 images and 30 animations deep, although some of those animations are for future scenes.

Splitting Saturday across two updates is a possibility as there's a rise and fall to the free roam that would let us end there cleanly. However, we do not wish to do that out of fear of killing the story's already plodding momentum.

However, however... the existential dread of not releasing an update, going hungry for feedback, and living in the shadow of a still remaining mountain of work has not hit us yet. We are presently in the having a lot of fun stage of development, so it's too early to say where the line will be drawn.

That was not a very helpful but an understandable reply. Then I have to let go and take it however it comes. Thank you for the elaborate answer and I wish the two of you work free from stress. Kind greetings

 

[Owarishi]

are all sex scenes are optional ? +

The main characters have sex with others other than mc ?




like sex scene (rosalind * killian)

 

[torpedogoat]

are all sex scenes are optional ? +

The main characters have sex with others other than mc ?

like sex scene (rosalind * killian)

Regarding your second question: This game is about a particularly perverted high class brothel in which men use women freely in front of everyone. I think there is no way to prevent seeing almost all women have sex with other men (and women). In fact, the game opens with the MC watching pornographic footage of his mother that is an important backstory element because he found it accidentally when he was a child. I think so far you can probably avoid seeing Hana, Mina or Kathleen having sex with people other than the MC; though Mina is initially Killian's girlfriend. I think there is no sex scene involving Sophia so far. Regarding specifically Rosalind and Killian: Both are the MC's natural girlfriends, either individually or both at the same time. But at least generally speaking you can avoid both. Same for the three carnations. You can pick and choose which of them, if any, you have a relation with. The game branches very heavily. But them having sex in public with someone (which sometimes may optionally be you) is obviously the point of this game.

Regarding your first question: There are two potential issues here. Many games have a main love interest that you cannot avoid. The main character will love her and have sex with her, and it does not occur to the developer that someone might not want this. I think this issue does not exist here. However, while the MC can so far always opt out of having sex in public with anyone (I think), there is at least one scene where Kathleen asks the MC to her office, injects him a substance against his will, and forces him to have sex with other women. Here the player cannot avoid this because it is part of the story that the MC cannot avoid it. There is also a scene where the MC has sex with a prostitute to impress a client. Not sure if you can avoid this, but if you can avoid it and insist on doing so, I guess you will seriously restrict the directions in which you can take the story. There may be more like that. Plus, as I said, you cannot completely avoid seeing other people having sex in public or at least in front of the MC.

I think to some limited extent you can avoid even seeing the exhibitions, but then what's the point of the game? If you are squeamish about any of these things, this game is probably not a good match for you. But then it's also a bit of a mystery why you are interested in it in the first place.

 

[GokutheG]

are all sex scenes are optional ? +

The main characters have sex with others other than mc ?




like sex scene (rosalind * killian)

The Exhabition scenes where the Carnations compete against each other aren't avoidable but you can help shape their outcome.

The LIs can sleep with others but that's usually the direct result of your choices. If you have a problem with that the choice is usually very obvious which one is pointing a LI towards someone else and you can avoid it.

 

[Owarishi]

The Exhabition scenes where the Carnations compete against each other aren't avoidable but you can help shape their outcome.

The LIs can sleep with others but that's usually the direct result of your choices. If you have a problem with that the choice is usually very obvious which one is pointing a LI towards someone else and you can avoid it.

Oh thanks for the information
Good it's avoidable , I know the game about prostitution but I'm not into see one of LI to have sex with another person it's big off for me that make me sometimes don't care about her xD

 

[Owarishi]

Regarding your second question: This game is about a particularly perverted high class brothel in which men use women freely in front of everyone. I think there is no way to prevent seeing almost all women have sex with other men (and women). In fact, the game opens with the MC watching pornographic footage of his mother that is an important backstory element because he found it accidentally when he was a child. I think so far you can probably avoid seeing Hana, Mina or Kathleen having sex with people other than the MC; though Mina is initially Killian's girlfriend. I think there is no sex scene involving Sophia so far. Regarding specifically Rosalind and Killian: Both are the MC's natural girlfriends, either individually or both at the same time. But at least generally speaking you can avoid both. Same for the three carnations. You can pick and choose which of them, if any, you have a relation with. The game branches very heavily. But them having sex in public with someone (which sometimes may optionally be you) is obviously the point of this game.

Regarding your first question: There are two potential issues here. Many games have a main love interest that you cannot avoid. The main character will love her and have sex with her, and it does not occur to the developer that someone might not want this. I think this issue does not exist here. However, while the MC can so far always opt out of having sex in public with anyone (I think), there is at least one scene where Kathleen asks the MC to her office, injects him a substance against his will, and forces him to have sex with other women. Here the player cannot avoid this because it is part of the story that the MC cannot avoid it. There is also a scene where the MC has sex with a prostitute to impress a client. Not sure if you can avoid this, but if you can avoid it and insist on doing so, I guess you will seriously restrict the directions in which you can take the story. There may be more like that. Plus, as I said, you cannot completely avoid seeing other people having sex in public or at least in front of the MC.

I think to some limited extent you can avoid even seeing the exhibitions, but then what's the point of the game? If you are squeamish about any of these things, this game is probably not a good match for you. But then it's also a bit of a mystery why you are interested in it in the first place.

Idk why I didn't see your quote but anyway thanks u have explained things simply and given an idea about them
About exhibitions I don't mind it cuz like u said the main plot about prostitution , all I care about is " Li have sex or relationship with another person" but it's avoidable so win/win situation
+ Sometimes It's just good to try something different
(Ofc not Ntr or cuckold )

 

[DETROIT123_io]

Does the mom get involved with the club ?? Is thier any content with her except the backstories . She is too hot to be not used and roughed up by the club