VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Avaron1974]

Ha already disliked Kathleen alot that drugging didn't help her case, here hoping we get one or several over her in a future build.

He likes her in my game.

That being said, I doubt he'll get one over on her. Not only is she incredibly powerful she also runs the show.

Considering the differing routes with regards to her, if she is taken down it will probably be by people like August.

 

[dghunk]

He likes her in my game.

That being said, I doubt he'll get one over on her. Not only is she incredibly powerful she also runs the show.

Considering the differing routes with regards to her, if she is taken down it will probably be by people like August.

with voyer path u actually get a better notion of what is goin on, and u get the notion MC is letting her lead on him. Not that he can do anything to stop her, but I dont think it would be simple has that.

Great game, was expecting a more stupid lost to cock plot, but the fact it is kinda more realistic on the character motivations is really nice

 

[vulcan432]

Man, the writing and pacing in this game is amazingly good; I can't remember the last time I came across a game that I could play through without wanting to skip a second.

Very enjoy, please continue on Dev

 

[fasd95]

Spoiler: I am happy now

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[RandyPhoenix]

GIL3D Hey man i want ask you someting. With last update we have bad animations. You changed animation frame count and made them better or they are still same?

 

[Deleted member 219953]

More Please

 

[qwerty848]

Hi there, TD1900

Sorry for taking your time, I just wanted you to know that I haven't been this excited about a visual novel in a really long time until Pale Carnations arrived. The amout of effort you've put into this game is simply outstanding. I can't believe you guys achieved that level of render quality with HS, I thought for sure you were at least using Play Home. Also, let's not forget about the writing, you managed to make the characters in your story feel alive, eveyone looks and acts in a different way; not every writer can do this.

Anyways, there are tons of positive things I would like to say about Pale Carnations, but I don't wanna come across as a fanboy or random creppy dude on the internet. I just wanted you guys to know you've created something you can be really proud of. I would choose Pale Carnations over many triple AAA games coming this year; that's how good I think it is.


If it's okay, I would also like to ask you a few questions:


- This one is mainly to control my hype: Even though Pale Carnations is clearly a Sei Shoujo game, can I still expect some degree of romance, especially with Mina? I know this is far from a vanilla game, but I thought I wouldn't hurt to ask.

- This one is quite personal so feel free to ignore this question: does your own game arouse you sometimes? I'm completely aware this sounds weird, but in the future I want to make my own erotic visual novel too. The thing is, I can never feel any arousal for the things I draw o write so I have no way of telling if what I'm doing could even be considered interesting by others. I was wondering how other creators deal with this issue.


Don't worry about the questions if you feel I'm asking for spoilers or if they are too personal. The main reason why I decided to make this post, in the first place, is just to let you know how much I appreciate what you guys created.


Thanks for lending me some of your time.


Best regards

 

[Avaron1974]

- This one is mainly to control my hype: Even though Pale Carnations is clearly a Sei Shoujo game, can I still expect some degree of romance, especially with Mina? I know this is far from a vanilla game, but I thought I wouldn't hurt to ask.

This one I know, it's the one thing I was interested in originally.

I don't know all the women that will be a romance option but I believe the contest girls will be, not sure about Hana or Harper or any of the others.

As far as romance goes that will build up over time. Relationships won't start until later with the contest girls having their relationship built up over the duration of that contest.

It's not a traditional romance but it will be in towards the end.

 

[qwerty848]

This one I know, it's the one thing I was interested in originally.

I don't know all the women that will be a romance option but I believe the contest girls will be, not sure about Hana or Harper or any of the others.

As far as romance goes that will build up over time. Relationships won't start until later with the contest girls having their relationship built up over the duration of that contest.

It's not a traditional romance but it will be in towards the end.

Good to know there will be some kind of romance though. I was initially worried mainly because of the genre of the game and the fact that I'm not quite sure what Mina role is in the overall story; she feels "too good/pure to be true". In a game like this, being pure could be quite dangerous.

 

[GIL3D]

GIL3D Hey man i want ask you someting. With last update we have bad animations. You changed animation frame count and made them better or they are still same?

There are no true animations in Ch.1, that's why we never added the "animated" tag. What you got was basically a bonus. I was never an animator and I cannot commit the amount of time I would like to perfect them. That said, I tried my best to improve within those limitations. You'll be the judge.

Hi there, TD1900

Sorry for taking your time, I just wanted you to know that I haven't been this excited about a visual novel in a really long time until Pale Carnations arrived. The amout of effort you've put into this game is simply outstanding. I can't believe you guys achieved that level of render quality with HS, I thought for sure you were at least using Play Home. Also, let's not forget about the writing, you managed to make the characters in your story feel alive, eveyone looks and acts in a different way; not every writer can do this.

Anyways, there are tons of positive things I would like to say about Pale Carnations, but I don't wanna come across as a fanboy or random creppy dude on the internet. I just wanted you guys to know you've created something you can be really proud of. I would choose Pale Carnations over many triple AAA games coming this year; that's how good I think it is.


If it's okay, I would also like to ask you a few questions:


- This one is mainly to control my hype: Even though Pale Carnations is clearly a Sei Shoujo game, can I still expect some degree of romance, especially with Mina? I know this is far from a vanilla game, but I thought I wouldn't hurt to ask.

- This one is quite personal so feel free to ignore this question: does your own game arouse you sometimes? I'm completely aware this sounds weird, but in the future I want to make my own erotic visual novel too. The thing is, I can never feel any arousal for the things I draw o write so I have no way of telling if what I'm doing could even be considered interesting by others. I was wondering how other creators deal with this issue.


Don't worry about the questions if you feel I'm asking for spoilers or if they are too personal. The main reason why I decided to make this post, in the first place, is just to let you know how much I appreciate what you guys created.


Thanks for lending me some of your time.


Best regards

Not TD, but thank you for the props, it means a lot. This whole process has taught me a lot about studio work, and I'm still learning. I do pour my soul into every little detail and pull off insane work days, but it's all worth it with comments like yours. Regarding your questions, hmm what can I tell you... Welp, I know how the Mina storyline will evolve, and I consider it by far the most romantic and organic of them all. That much I can say. She is probably my favourite girl, both her and Hana are very dear to me.

About your other question, it's funny, TD and I have talked about this a couple times, in-depth. In my case, 90% of the porn I consume is made by me, and in recent months it prominetly features these women. Even if I'm not partial to a girl or a particular kink, sooner or later every single scene I've worked on in this game has excited me to some degree. It is indeed a measure of "success" in my mind. But that's just my case and my opinion.

 

[TD1900]

Hi there, TD1900

First of all: thank you for the kind, polite words. I'm glad you're enjoying our project.

- This one is mainly to control my hype: Even though Pale Carnations is clearly a Sei Shoujo game, can I still expect some degree of romance, especially with Mina? I know this is far from a vanilla game, but I thought I wouldn't hurt to ask.

Mina, Hana, and the three Carnations will all be romance options.

Mina and Hana in particular should scratch the itch of a more romance-minded player. Not to say they won't have their own share of kinky content, or their routes won't have dramatic turns, but their addition to the story during planning was because GIL and I wanted to round out the cast with some softer romantic options that would tether the player character to the world outside the club. Well, Hana is inside the club, but I hope you get what I mean. They're there to help potentially pull the player a certain way when it comes to deciding to stay or leave at the end of the game.

- This one is quite personal so feel free to ignore this question: does your own game arouse you sometimes? I'm completely aware this sounds weird, but in the future I want to make my own erotic visual novel too. The thing is, I can never feel any arousal for the things I draw o write so I have no way of telling if what I'm doing could even be considered interesting by others. I was wondering how other creators deal with this issue.

While an odd question, it's actually one I've wondered about other devs myself. The answer for me is.... 90% of the time, not really.

The best reasons I could come up with for that is because working so closely with the material for hours on end, you don't really stop to smell the roses and it naturally loses some of it's novelty when you go back and read it. That and if you've even have a sliver of perfectionist desire, when you do look at the material casually, you can't help but pick it apart. For me, I get too hung up on the clunkiness of the language and start thinking about how I might improve it.

The 10% of the time that is exciting for me is usually before I start writing, when I'm laying out the scene in my mind and trying to come up with devious games, and when GIL gives me the latest batch of images that pairs with my writing.

 

[qwerty848]

Not TD, but thank you for the props, it means a lot. This whole process has taught me a lot about studio work, and I'm still learning. I do pour my soul into every little detail and pull off insane work days, but it's all worth it with comments like yours. Regarding your questions, hmm what can I tell you... Welp, I know how the Mina storyline will evolve, and I consider it by far the most romantic and organic of them all. That much I can say. She is probably my favourite girl, both her and Hana are very dear to me.

Sorry I didn't include your name in my first post, I wasn't completely sure who else was a dev ( should have done some research). Still, my first post was adressed to every single person that is part of the dev team, obviously that includes you.


You know someone has pour his soul into every detail when every single cg in the game could easily be wallpaper material. As an artist, I know it must have taken a lot of time an effort to create something of that quality. Can't wait to see the rest of your work.


As regards romances and Mina. I really appreciate that you answered my question, I know that some devs don't like talking about such topics because they could be consider spoilers. Now, I know I can just relax and enjoy the game you guys want to create. I was afraid Mina and Hana (those outside the club) were bait to making us feel invested in those characters before "breaking" them; not necessarily a bad thing, but I wanted to know if Pale Carnations was the right game for me before I became too emotionally invested.

About your other question, it's funny, TD and I have talked about this a couple times, in-depth. In my case, 90% of the porn I consume is made by me, and in recent months it prominetly features these women. Even if I'm not partial to a girl or a particular kink, sooner or later every single scene I've worked on in this game has excited me to some degree. It is indeed a measure of "success" in my mind. But that's just my case and my opinion.

I certainly wasn't expecting this answer, lol. I think it's great that you are able to enjoy your creations to this extend. In my case, I can't even draw a sexy character because I kind of become so invested in my drawings that I lose the ability too even perceive them as sexy; this is probably similar to what TD feels, I think.

Again, thanks for going out of you way to answer my questions.

 

[Naxos]

TD1900 so started this game earlier this morning and just finished the current version and I must say at the end I was kinda speechless and surprised by this game.

Like many I came for Veronica, not really knowing what it was going to be like and having read the synopsis, I wasn't sure I really wanted to try it, but the quality of the renders drew me in. As I said I came for Veronica, but I stayed for Felicia.

To be honest I struggled with the game at first, it's not the thing I normally go for and I wasn't sure if I wanted to keep going. I really don't like male MC games where the women get it on with others and with the nature of the club that's going to happen, but I surprisingly have really enjoyed it.

The quality of the game and renders is really good. I actually have nothing bad, or negative to say. Though now I've spent a little time thinking about it, a little explanation at the start on the various traits etc would have been nice.

I've decided to embrace my inner "strongman" and become good, more than good with the clubs activities. I really hope there will be a path to become Kathy's partner and help her with her plans, without being a pawn or manipulated. I'd like the MC to have an option to just sit down with her and say he see's what she's doing and wants in as an equal and will do whatever is needed, just don't lie or manipulate or backstab me.

Edit.
GIL3D add you for some props, too. didn't know there was more than one of you from the team here.

 

[qwerty848]

First of all: thank you for the kind, polite words. I'm glad you're enjoying our project.



Mina, Hana, and the three Carnations will all be romance options.

Mina and Hana in particular should scratch the itch of a more romance-minded player. Not to say they won't have their own share of kinky content, or their routes won't have dramatic turns, but their addition to the story during planning was because GIL and I wanted to round out the cast with some softer romantic options that would tether the player character to the world outside the club. Well, Hana is inside the club, but I hope you get what I mean. They're there to help potentially pull the player a certain way when it comes to deciding to stay or leave at the end of the game.

I'm actually kind of relieved to hear that Hana and Mina were, in a way, created to appeal to players like me. As I explained to GIL3D in my previous reply, part of me was telling me to prepare for the worst; I thought you had very dark plans for those particular characters. Well, even if that was the case, it doesn't change the fact that Pale Carnations is a top quality visual novel/game. I'm ready too see this story through.


That contrast between the girls who work at at club and those that "outsiders" is one of the reasons I think the plot is really interesting. Not only it gives plenty of opportunities for player agency and deciding what course of action should the mc take, but also because the replayability it provides; not to mention the moral dilemma the mc faces. Looking forward to see how everything unfolds.

While an odd question, it's actually one I've wondered about other devs myself. The answer for me is.... 90% of the time, not really.

The best reasons I could come up with for that is because working so closely with the material for hours on end, you don't really stop to smell the roses and it naturally loses some of it's novelty when you go back and read it. That and if you've even have a sliver of perfectionist desire, when you do look at the material casually, you can't help but pick it apart. For me, I get too hung up on the clunkiness of the language and start thinking about how I might improve it.

The 10% of the time that is exciting for me is usually before I start writing, when I'm laying out the scene in my mind and trying to come up with devious games, and when GIL gives me the latest batch of images that pairs with my writing.

This is something I can relate too. When drawing a character in a sexy pose or writing a scene I can't really consider my creations sexy or arousing because I'm too invested in them. As you say, I can't help but pick it apart and analyze the parts but not the whole. I'm currently trying to figure out how to get past that obstacle and perceive my drawings for what I was actually trying to convey.

Anyways, thank you so much for replying to my post. I really appreciate how open you guys are with the rest of us.

 

[Avaron1974]

Mina, Hana, and the three Carnations will all be romance options.

I didn't want to assume but i'm so glad Hana is an option.

The whole band thing and the conversation afterwards pushed her to my top girl list. She would have been top girl even if she couldn't be romanced which would have sucked for whoever I romanced after that.

How excited she got when the MC remembered Suzie Q's name, she just went all cinnamon roll and needs to be hugged.

 

[Naxos]

I didn't want to assume but i'm so glad Hana is an option.

The whole band thing and the conversation afterwards pushed her to my top girl list. She would have been top girl even if she couldn't be romanced which would have sucked for whoever I romanced after that.

How excited she got when the MC remembered Suzie Q's name, she just went all cinnamon roll and needs to be hugged.

I'm loving ruining Mina & Kill's relationship and she's probably the only one I'd consider for romance in this.

Hana doesn't do it for me, she's nice, but she's just got far to much ink of my tastes. When I saw

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My immediate reaction was I'm in! Whatever Kath needs.

I'm amazed at how gleefully I've stepped into that role of being willing to exploit the woman for the club. That is the complete antithesis of who and what I am in real life.

 

[Weiheishen]

Piece of art

 

[pmyourladyparts]

A fantastic update done. I'm a fan of pretty much all of the girls so far. My least favorite at the moment is probably Veronica, but there is still a certain appeal to her.

The plotline I'm probably looking to most forward to is NTR'ing Killian and getting with Mina. In the first release Killian was like, kind of an asshole sure, but in this update with him drunkenly stumbling into your apartment with a random girl shows that he's actively cheating on her. With that fact in place I'm all for pursuing Mina lol. Plus the slow burn of it all is fun.

Of the three carnations I lean more towards Rosalind. I think it's because she has the most sympathetic angle. Felicia seems like fun I guess, but her motivation being purely for pleasure seems like she's not even interested in "winning" so it feels like there's no real reason to care about how she ends up doing in the games at the moment.

One of the minor details that seemed skipped over that has me curious is how Killian seems to obviously have a crush on MC's mom, but also doesn't seem aware of the fact that she did porn. I would think this will end up being revealed at some point so I'm curious as to what the consequences of that will be.

It was nice to see Lucy again. Even if she doesn't end up being part of the main cast I hope she still pops up for the MC to have fun with.

This is probably just me, but I kinda wish there was a bit more to the sex scenes. Like if they were a bit longer or involved more poses and such in each encounter. The Gonzo reward was probably the most actual action the MC got and it felt like it kind of glossed over the scene after the injection. Like with Rosalind it was fine that the MC ate her out until she came, but then it felt like there was more effort put into that part of the scene compared to when he actually has sex with her.

 

[TheDisgracedOne]

Amazing, this new version is as good as the last one, i never liked non-daz games, especially this engine, don't know the name but the characters are unrealistic and they all look asians with poor renders in the majority of the games using it, but this game is an exception the renders are amazing and the characters too, i'm really looking for the next version, but from what i can see from the lack of patch this game is not going to give us any landlady with mc content, but it's not that big of a deal the game is excellent and the female boss is a perfect milf character to balance that little problem.

 

[Naxos]

Amazing, this new version is as good as the last one, i never liked non-daz games, especially this engine, don't know the name but the characters are unrealistic and they all look asians with poor renders in the majority of the games using it, but this game is an exception the renders are amazing and the characters too, i'm really looking for the next version, but from what i can see from the lack of patch this game is not going to give us any landlady with mc content, but it's not that big of a deal the game is excellent and the female boss is a perfect milf character to balance that little problem.

The milf boss is probably the best 56 year old I've ever seen.

I hate this whole fucking f95zone and all you perverts for exposing me to so much incest that i'm starting to get into it and was hoping something would happen with the mother, maybe ending up at the club too.

There is one unrealistic name though in the game, Harper. She has a very American first name with a very Eastern European surname, but fuck it, her parents immigrated and she was born there and given a western name right? That's how I'm rolling with it.