Spfjolietjake
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That would be a sure fire way to further piss off the ones that want the mc to bang her (which is confirmed not happening).
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I could be wrong but I'm like 90% sure I read somewhere that the dev said the mom is a no-go
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Was a porn star, not is.
And she only did it out of necessity to raise the MC.
Rosalind is the Mom placeholder lol
Spfjolietjake
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As Walnutt has stated "was" a porn star. Also the mom is not in the brothel and is not a love interest.
The dev can do whatever they want but if you see earlier in this thread there were many of posts about the mom fucking the mc (no incest killed that one) or somebody else. From those posts I really doubt it is going to happen.
My advice don't get your hopes up... Or do if you are a masochist.
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only that the story isn't hinting at all...Ian respects her...and i don't think he knows the truth about MC's mother(unless it will be a flashback in the next chapters)
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How was there a hint of Killian and MC's mom getting together?
If anything, the story was hinting at MC getting with Ian's mom, though I don't think that'll actually come to fruition
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No, the plot is hinting (more like explicitly stated) that for Ian MC's mom is a second mom, he truly loves her like his mother and would never want to hurt her or treat like another whore. It's a fresh approach and we already have enough material that adding another "girl" is pointless. Better focus on the ones we have and get scenes of such great quality like the ones we've already had than to add more women and dilute the experience. Many most successful games do it and I for one don't like it because I always have to wait long for my favourite girl's turn or the number of scenes we get is laughable. Not here though, one of the reasons I consider PC the best game.
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Wasn't implying you were talking about incest. Just that it was discussed at the same time as any male fucking his mom.
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I was talking about people saying that Ian will try to fuck MC's mom.
Ian's mom may be an option but like one sex scene, she is not a major character...or doesn't seem a major one...so far
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Hmm, well, some minor spots still have some basic animations and a couple more major scenes can't be feasibly improved upon without recreating the pose from scratch, so I don't know if we'll get to those anytime soon if at all.
So... up to you? Animations aside, if I remember correctly, you didn't seem too keen on the game's type of content in the first place. None of that has or will change, so you might still want to pass.
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I was just asking you bc you gave me the ol thinkin face when I mentioned it lolol
I think the path to something with Ian's mom is open because of the deal she tried to make with the MC and the unmentioned "reward" if he is able to talk Ian into going back to school.
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i need a "i agree with you"-emoji and to me the Thinking Face Emoji, looks like someone who is thinking about stuff but like it's also agreeing XD
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From what we've seen so far, Victoria seems to be one of the few girls in the game with whom Ian would not want to have sex. I think he idolizes her in a platonic way, as exemplified by her unique ability to make Ian feel genuine shame.
The writing in this game is out of control good. Some of the best I've seen on this site, and the writer definitely understands the male dom fetish. He has what I call "killer instinct". I don't know how to put it. A certain edge of ruthlessness/cruelty that defines the fetish and makes it separate from "BDSM".
The art is also solid - it's probably the best Honey Select artwork I've seen, although I admit I'm really not a big fan of that program.
10/10, can't wait for the next release.
The art is also solid - it's probably the best Honey Select artwork I've seen, although I admit I'm really not a big fan of that program.
10/10, can't wait for the next release.
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Personally I don't get the hate Killian is getting (so this post isn't directed at you only, that Killian shouldn't have Mina is a common opinion). In my eyes he's a better person than MC, who is a sadist and an even bigger degenerate than Killian. He's also a much worse friend to Killian than vice-versa, e.g. the only reason he stayed in touch with his best friend was thanks to Killian's efforts, he was the one who was calling, MC was focused on his studies and part-time job as a tutor while ignoring his friend. MC has also no problems with seducing his best friend's girlfriend (well, depending on our choices but once we do it he doesn't seem to have much remorse) and doesn't seem to appreciate enough how much help he got from Kill.
That's why I would prefer if Mina would still choose Killian over MC after their fling which would make Killian realize what he could have lost if he wouldn't change and wouldn't stop chasing after different skirts. BTW, it's funny how Killian is hated for ignoring Mina (which isn't true) and going after different girls while at the same time our MC is having sex left and right and is at least as horny as Kill. Anyway, I haven't seen Killian acting like a jerk yet but I've seen MC do it (e.g. peeing on Veronica or acting like a sadist or ignoring his friend and being an ungrateful asshole).
In certain scenarios MC can be a true altruist and a great guy but in the "let's see as many erotic scenes as we can" playthrough, he's not and he's definitely worse for Mina than Killian. Well, whatever devs will decide I'll probably like it (because MC having Mina's pussy is great in itself) but I'm just of the opinion that Killian is undeservedly bashed (at least when you take into account the alternative, i.e. MC).
/unpopular opinion
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I've actually been pleasantly surprised by the number of people (it's more than 1!) who seem to like or at least be on the fence about Killian's character. I know how male side characters are usually received in adult games, and when you throw in his despicable chauvinistic world view and serial cheating, I was worried he'd be universally hated.
He and Edwin (the mc)'s relationship is actually one of the more fundamental aspects of the project, stretching back to the very early stages of the game, before I was fortunate enough to have GIL as a partner. In the earliest conception of the story, he was actually a player-controlled deuteragonist. For that reason, his character holds a special place in my heart.
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Well, I think it's all comes down to his rather earnest personality and somewhat touching affection towards MC. I think, that as much as we want a girl like Mina, we also want to have a bro like Killian. And his scambaggery doesn't detract from this much.I've actually been pleasantly surprised by the number of people (it's more than 1!) who seem to like or at least be on the fence about Killian's character. I know how male side characters are usually received in adult games, and when you throw in his despicable chauvinistic world view and serial cheating, I was worried he'd be universally hated.
He and Edwin (the mc)'s relationship is actually one of the more fundamental aspects of the project, stretching back to the very early stages of the game, before I was fortunate enough to have GIL as a partner. In the earliest conception of the story, he was actually a player-controlled deuteragonist. For that reason, his character holds a special place in my heart.
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It's a valid point and I'm generally in favor of trying to make Killian a better person rather than writing him off. But I think there are a few specific reasons why Ian gets such flack.
First, the MC is the player's avatar. That means he benefits from all of our human hypocrisy, and we're also automatically inside his head. We not only see how he treats girls around him, we know why he's treating them that way - in fact, we're the ones who made that decision much of the time. That gives the MC's transgressions a lot more nuance and support than Killian has generally had. (It also means that people inclined to be judgmental of Ian are probably also more inclined to make the MC behave better.)
Second, Killian has a formal relationship with Mina that the MC doesn't have with any of the girls (so far). Sure, Veronica is (rightly) angry if the MC pees on her, but in general she still sees him as another pervert who works at the club; his actions don't amount to a personal betrayal. Ian, on the other hand, still comports himself as Mina's boyfriend even though she's made it clear that his blatant womanizing bothers her. I think that makes his actions more problematic than the MC's... with the obvious exception of making the moves on Mina herself. That is clearly a similar betrayal of Ian's trust, but we haven't quite got to the tipping point on her path yet.
Finally, while the MC is clearly capable of great dickery and definitely has a dark side, he is also far more aware of how those tendencies can affect other people. No doubt due to Victoria's influence, the MC has a high level of empathy that does tend to temper his worst impulses (at least until Kat starts working her dark magic on him). Ian's empathy usually extends only to the MC and Victoria; even when other people call him on the consequences of his actions, he tends to brush off the criticism. Eventually, I suspect that last point will be a point in Killian's favor, since if the MC persists in behaving badly he will seem far more deliberate in his cruelty. But for now it makes the MC seem like someone struggling with his conscience while Ian comes across as an entitled child acting out, which is rarely a good look.
Alice may have raising him, but that doesn't mean he automatically idolizes her: Grace played a part in raising Ian too, after all. For whatever reason, Victoria seems to have become the focus for all of Ian's nobler impulses. Maybe it's as simple as the combination of her being a surrogate mother and her connection to Ian's BFF.