VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[kiki013]

Victoria is hot and there are other ways to have scenes with her that does not involve incest. Her porn is nice but I also want scenes with present day Victoria. We can have some other character thats not the MC hooking up with her although it might be hard to incorporate that in the game given she has nothing to do with the club.

Warren it is then.

 

[Takkatakka]

so you guy's are telling me that this is not on the menu? Especially when the game is set up for incest from the beginning? (dead dad and a single + lonely mom)

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I'm no game maker but this is like having an all star player on your team and not using him. I'm just starting but I hope theres other female characters that makes up for this...

There are lot other ways to get Victoria more involved. The game really doesn't need incest.

 

[dumbo10]

There goes incest talk again

The game really doesn't need incest

I said this is pretty selfish subjective opinion, which also equally selfish to opinion that the game need incest.
What isnt selfish is just trust the writer and just accept what comes next
If there's incest I'm down for it, or I can even avoid it, if there's no incest, no biggie

If rosalind won't lactate, fine then..

 

[Takkatakka]

There goes incest talk again



I said this is pretty selfish subjective opinion, which also equally selfish to opinion that the game need incest.
What isnt selfish is just trust the writer and just accept what comes next
If there's incest I'm down for it, or I can even avoid it, if there's no incest, no biggie

If rosalind won't lactate, fine then..

I mean...yeah...if the developers want to build it in, they will. If they don't they won't, that is pretty much the gist of it.

Still, I probably should have elaborated more: In my opinion the game doesn't need incest because it wouldn't add any meaningful new element to the game. We already have a motherly character with a large bust in the game that the MC can have a relationship with. What exactly would an incest relationship with Victoria add outside of that singular element that it is incest?

To me the whole "my mother did porn" angle so far seems to be more intended as an element to emotionally anchor the MC. It helps him to understand the women (especially Rose) and to remind him that they are still human beings he should respect and care for. How far the MC will actually end up doing that will - hopefully - be up to player and seems to be one of the core points of the story.

I rather expect that Vicky might be dragged into the club in some way at some point or Ian will get involved with her or something, depending on how dark and evil the story will get.

 

[GIL3D]

I suspect it isn't. He google translates and picks whichever words have the most syllables. I also come across a lot of gibberish sometimes like Fwich, Swhip, etc. I'm guessing something's lost in translation.

TD is american, but thank you for the chuckle. I'll save your comment to keep him grounded every now and then

 

[Bill Temple]

TD is american, but thank you for the chuckle. I'll save your comment to keep him grounded every now and then

Yea, he's gotta be joking, right? It's such a ridiculous statement if one has read TD's work that it has to be a joke, but the delivery felt so deadpan that I couldn't tell.

 

[GIL3D]

Yea, he's gotta be joking, right? It's such a ridiculous statement if one has read TD's work that it has to be a joke, but the delivery felt so deadpan that I couldn't tell.

I hope it's not a joke, I love the precision describing the process. He might be onto something
It was a joke.. bummer I so wanted it to be real

 

[Armada1987]

GIL3D

I agree that there is no incest in the game, but will Vicky be involved in the game? I think she's a great Milf
Right at the beginning of the game she turned me on

 

[BrockLanders]

so you guy's are telling me that this is not on the menu? Especially when the game is set up for incest from the beginning? (dead dad and a single + lonely mom)

dead dad and a single + lonely mom ≠ setup for incest

Jesus Fucking Christ.

 

[White Lamp]

dead dad and a single + lonely mom ≠ setup for incest

Jesus Fucking Christ.

if you play incest games this is a very common set up for that fetish…

edit: as others have mention, I mean in games. Of course not in real life. It’s fine if you don’t like that type of game but I can assure you as someone who played many games with that kink, that is the most common set up for it.

 

[GIL3D]

GIL3D

I agree that there is no incest in the game, but will Vicky be involved in the game? I think she's a great Milf
Right at the beginning of the game she turned me on

Yes, there will be more Victoria moving forward. That's all I can say!

 

[rippertipper]

I mean...yeah...if the developers want to build it in, they will. If they don't they won't, that is pretty much the gist of it.

Still, I probably should have elaborated more: In my opinion the game doesn't need incest because it wouldn't add any meaningful new element to the game. We already have a motherly character with a large bust in the game that the MC can have a relationship with. What exactly would an incest relationship with Victoria add outside of that singular element that it is incest?

To me the whole "my mother did porn" angle so far seems to be more intended as an element to emotionally anchor the MC. It helps him to understand the women (especially Rose) and to remind him that they are still human beings he should respect and care for. How far the MC will actually end up doing that will - hopefully - be up to player and seems to be one of the core points of the story.

I rather expect that Vicky might be dragged into the club in some way at some point or Ian will get involved with her or something, depending on how dark and evil the story will get.

I'm definitely of the camp that suspects Victoria and Kathleen/Chuck will represent different ends of the same axis in the MC's psychological development and his adaption to this life of debauchery. This is a game about corruption after all and after the scene where you ask Kathleen for advice, I'm absolutely down to see that axis as a plot point for character development.

 

[Takkatakka]

I'm definitely of the camp that suspects Victoria and Kathleen/Chuck will represent different ends of the same axis in the MC's psychological development and his adaption to this life of debauchery. This is a game about corruption after all and after the scene where you ask Kathleen for advice, I'm absolutely down to see that axis as a plot point for character development.

I don't think I would put Kathleen and Chuck together like that. It very much seems to me, Kath has something brewing neither Chuck nor August are aware off. There is this one scene very early during the beginning of the "pre-show" with Lucy and Veronica when Chuck cuts Kath's long monologue short and here face is full of disdain at that moment. I think there will be very much a conflict between the owners of the Club at some point.

So Chuck stands for debauchery but I don't think he wants to really harm people. Kath on the other hand is very much a psychopath who revels in other people's misery.

 

[BrockLanders]

if you play incest games this is a very common set up for that fetish…

edit: as others have mention, I mean in games. Of course not in real life. It’s fine if you don’t like that type of game but I can assure you as someone who played many games with that kink, that is the most common set up for it.

For once, can we go against type then and just deal with it?

 

[White Lamp]

For once, can we go against type then and just deal with it?

I’m all for uniqueness but my initial reaction was that it would be a waste to not use her in any scenes and only used for the story. Because her model is very attractive.

upon further inspection of the thread it seems like she will be used. Just not for the incest kink which is more than fine with me.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

I don't think I would put Kathleen and Chuck together like that. It very much seems to me, Kath has something brewing neither Chuck nor August are aware off. There is this one scene very early during the beginning of the "pre-show" with Lucy and Veronica when Chuck cuts Kath's long monologue short and here face is full of disdain at that moment. I think there will be very much a conflict between the owners of the Club at some point.

So Chuck stands for debauchery but I don't think he wants to really harm people. Kath on the other hand is very much a psychopath who revels in other people's misery.

I have to disagree on your assessment about Chuck. From everything the game showed so far he seems very much to be a sociopath. There are people there actually afraid of him every time he lets his facade of debauchery drop.

 

[rippertipper]

I have to disagree on your assessment about Chuck. From everything the game showed so far he seems very much to be a sociopath. There are people there actually afraid of him every time he lets his facade of debauchery drop.

I absolutely agree with this. Chuck is a different animal altogether with only a few scenes even hinting at the man behind the mask. I think Chuck is the scariest character of them all. He works very hard to appear as "Just an old pervert," but both him and Kath still represent different forms of embracing the corruption, whereas Victoria I think will work as a humanizing factor and a counterbalance to the MC succumbing to his own debauched and sadistic desires. I really think any "Victoria Incest" as is being spoke about would absolutely ruin and undermine the important role her character plays in the story and would be ill-fitting at best. Besides, we already have Rose as an outlet for Oedipean desire.

 

[Carl0sDanger]

As I've already stated, I think the Ian/Victoria angle is the best way to get Victoria content into the game. I agree that any MC/Victoria content would alter the premise of the game: it would make the whole game about that relationship.

I mean, maybe if the MC were totally corrupted by Kat? He uses the aphrodisiac on Victoria?

But that would need some character development in the direction of the MC becoming a complete psycho (perhaps cooperating with Kat and Van Doren to kick Chuck and August out) to be believable.

 

[Liga20]

I mean...yeah...if the developers want to build it in, they will. If they don't they won't, that is pretty much the gist of it.

Still, I probably should have elaborated more: In my opinion the game doesn't need incest because it wouldn't add any meaningful new element to the game. We already have a motherly character with a large bust in the game that the MC can have a relationship with. What exactly would an incest relationship with Victoria add outside of that singular element that it is incest?

To me the whole "my mother did porn" angle so far seems to be more intended as an element to emotionally anchor the MC. It helps him to understand the women (especially Rose) and to remind him that they are still human beings he should respect and care for. How far the MC will actually end up doing that will - hopefully - be up to player and seems to be one of the core points of the story.

I rather expect that Vicky might be dragged into the club in some way at some point or Ian will get involved with her or something, depending on how dark and evil the story will get.

Yes, I agree with your opinion, it's better to add Vicky to the club in any way, whether it's being threatened or blackmailed and lan is also involved with Vicky, those two points in my opinion make the storyline even more interesting, I hope the developer can add those two points

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

That would make no sense at all.
There is literally zero sexual tension between the two of them and more than that, Victoria is the only woman that Ian actually treats with respect. In fact i would go as far as state he treats her as a mother figure more than his own biological mom.

Victoria is Edwin's moral compass, don't wait for any roundabout way to make her into some oedipus fantasy to happen. At most i bet we are going to see more of her old work as a sex actress.