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Chapter 4 Up 4 Preview (1)
"Hey, can I get Mina's number...?"
"Hey, can I get Mina's number...?"
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I agree with Zero that it's not really possible to find a game "similar" to Pale Carnations. I would compare it to Mass Effect 2 in that it was developed with the mindset of taking the elements TD and GIL liked in other games and create their own version of "the sweaty nerd power [porn] fantasy." Want to be "the young/naive new kid on the block?" got it, but also want to hold authoritative power over grown women? TD and GIL: "Here's your cake, and you can eat it too." Want women to practically throw themselves at you, but you also like the chase, or perhaps you prefer slowly corrupting someone with a secret willing-sub streak? All this and more. And so on it goes. PC also "borrows" from ME2's playbook by heavily customizing to player choice (just read through this thread on the divergent fans for each girl), and to a greater degree: crafting a character story rather than a plot-driven one, such that the "main plot" is usually forgotten about.
So what should you play between PC Updates? Well that purely depends on which element(s) of PC you want in other games. Some people like Honey Select (HS), others stick with more realistic graphics (3D), some like Maledom (M), while others drool over the occasional Femdom (F) in PC, or just BDSM in general (B), or it's the Power Dynamic (P) over the NPCs or Corrupting them (C) that gets the blood pumping, especially if there's a Harem option (H) (i.e. relationship exclusivity is not required). Then there's the occasional fan who actually puts Writing (W) as a priority over the porn, whether it's the main story, or the characters. With that out of the way, here are some of my personal enjoyments:
A Mother's Love (3D, M, P, C, H, W) [NOT Abandoned]
Bindr (3D, F/M, B, H)**
City of Broken Dreamers (3D, M, C, H, W)
Desert Stalker (3D, M, P, C, H, W)
Drop Out Saga (HS, M/F, C, H, W)
Hail Dicktator (3D, M/F, B, P, C, H, W)
Harem Hotel (HS, M/F, B, P, C, H, W)
Hillside (3D, H?, W)*
Karlssons' Gambit (3D, F/M, B, P, H, W)**
Maids and Maidens (HS, M/F, B?, P, C, H, W)*
MILF Odyssey (3D, M, B, P, C, H)
The Headmaster (HS, M/F, B, P, C, H, W)
The Higher Society [Text & Illustrated versions] (3D, M/F, B, P, C, H)
To Be A King (3D, M, C, H, W)
Vae Victis - Khan (3D, M, B?, P, H)*
White Cube (3D, M, B?, H?)*
*? denotes either content is inferred but not yet in game, I did not take req'd path for content, or mod may be required.
** "M/F" denotes "girl-on-girl" Femdom while "F/M" has (optional) Femdom on MC.
Honorable [Dead] Mentions
Personal Assistant (fan remake listed under "BHE/Blackheart Hotel Edition")
Estate: Dominate (optional Femdom on MC)
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there actually a couple on there i haven't played so thanks for that I'd have to check them out
Takkatakka
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Ok this update has solidified Veronica as my favorite character also i think from a writing standpoint she is one of the best written ones
Bonerhat
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Sure this has been said before within 500 pages, but I feel there should really be additional relationship on-ramps for Mina after 'friendzoning' her. That scene is pretty early in where MC can still be a pretty pure nice-guy and there's a whole combination of reasons there that can make 'crossing the line' feel scummy, like knowing that your job is gonna force you to cheat on her too. It's way to easy to effectively remove a core GF option from the game due to a single questionable choice.
At the very least a "I'm not sure about this Mina.." choice there that she then convinces you on would help a lot as a minimal solution, but her confessing to you again a little latter on after the PC has been morally whittled down by the club more would be a perfect 2nd on-ramp. Though optimally I'd really love to see a whole alternative friendship route that evolves into a delayed but purer relationship in later acts if PC keeps toughness low enough or something.
At the very least a "I'm not sure about this Mina.." choice there that she then convinces you on would help a lot as a minimal solution, but her confessing to you again a little latter on after the PC has been morally whittled down by the club more would be a perfect 2nd on-ramp. Though optimally I'd really love to see a whole alternative friendship route that evolves into a delayed but purer relationship in later acts if PC keeps toughness low enough or something.
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Even with all this shitty BDSM kink I can't hate Kathleen, she's such a badass while working with a bunch of dirty old men around her.
She also has one of the best sex scenes of the game, her whole powerplay dynamic was really good.
She also has one of the best sex scenes of the game, her whole powerplay dynamic was really good.
Seriously. It’s been a really long time since I’ve been as invested in a particular LI’s route progression in an adult game as I have with Veronica. Such a multi-faceted character with a great slow-burn romance with the MC that at no point feels rushed or unrealistic in the scope of this game’s premise. Can’t wait to see how her route ends once it finally becomes a clear option for players.
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Speak for yourself. As far as BDSM is concerned, this game is an ULTRA-light-weight.
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Ian is such a wonderfully well written character. He's one of the best 'side bro' characters in the sea of residual muck residing in the niche of side bros.
Namely whenever it comes to Veronica. Shout out to the artist whose incredible ability to morph facial animations to such a degree that tells us novels worth of detail from a single look at his face.
Check out the scene where he shows up with Veronica to MC's apartment while he's talking with Rose.
We can see during this awkward interaction how bad he feels. There's an image where he's moving something while Veronica is talking to MC and Rose. He's looking downtrodden, away from the scene, almost in shame and annoyance. He's upset he put what he views as his real mother in this situation. It's a brief, but delightful detail.
There's another scene I didn't SS but It's during Rose's exhibition where she's going to do the sex tape. My memory is a little hazy, but iirc, a specific reference about motherhood is made from Kathleen that reminds him of Victoria and his face, in the next frame, expresses sadness. Something wholly absent from him at the club in every other circumstance. It's subtle but it's there.
Another great example of course is if MC refuses to partake in the sextape. Ian IMMEDIATELY, without hesitation, essentially tells Kathleen to fuck off and let it go, and to use him instead. "He's gonna be a doctor" he exclaims to her almost proudly, as if the very idea of her even suggesting Edwin be included offends him.
Unfortunately for Ian, he's included in a game with a brilliant cast of characters and, to his detriment, actively competes in affection points against them. That's the real nail in the coffin to his character that will almost certainly never see the development it deserves from most players. Because frankly, not only are the competing characters for his affection well written, they're smoking fucking hot.
Poor Ian never really had a chance.
Namely whenever it comes to Veronica. Shout out to the artist whose incredible ability to morph facial animations to such a degree that tells us novels worth of detail from a single look at his face.
Check out the scene where he shows up with Veronica to MC's apartment while he's talking with Rose.
We can see during this awkward interaction how bad he feels. There's an image where he's moving something while Veronica is talking to MC and Rose. He's looking downtrodden, away from the scene, almost in shame and annoyance. He's upset he put what he views as his real mother in this situation. It's a brief, but delightful detail.
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There's another scene I didn't SS but It's during Rose's exhibition where she's going to do the sex tape. My memory is a little hazy, but iirc, a specific reference about motherhood is made from Kathleen that reminds him of Victoria and his face, in the next frame, expresses sadness. Something wholly absent from him at the club in every other circumstance. It's subtle but it's there.
Another great example of course is if MC refuses to partake in the sextape. Ian IMMEDIATELY, without hesitation, essentially tells Kathleen to fuck off and let it go, and to use him instead. "He's gonna be a doctor" he exclaims to her almost proudly, as if the very idea of her even suggesting Edwin be included offends him.
Unfortunately for Ian, he's included in a game with a brilliant cast of characters and, to his detriment, actively competes in affection points against them. That's the real nail in the coffin to his character that will almost certainly never see the development it deserves from most players. Because frankly, not only are the competing characters for his affection well written, they're smoking fucking hot.
Poor Ian never really had a chance.
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New dev diary today!
Based on these numbers, TD and GIL have completed 143 static renders, 13 animations and 5402 words in the last two weeks, an average of ~72 statics, 6.5 animations and 2700 words per week. Overall, they are currently averaging roughly 100 statics, 4.1 animations and 3360 words per week since work on Chapter 4 Update 4 began. Here are the charts for Week 3:
We're still early in the cycle so it's hard to draw too many conclusions. Looking to the historical trends we're somewhat fast on words, somewhat slow on statics, and very fast on animations. That does make me wonder what's driving animations so heavily this quickly (sounds like it involves Hana), but that's probably just a quirk of scene order in this update and things will balance out over time. It certainly sounds like there will be lots of interesting things happening. I'm eager to see them, though we still have a long way to go
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Based on these numbers, TD and GIL have completed 143 static renders, 13 animations and 5402 words in the last two weeks, an average of ~72 statics, 6.5 animations and 2700 words per week. Overall, they are currently averaging roughly 100 statics, 4.1 animations and 3360 words per week since work on Chapter 4 Update 4 began. Here are the charts for Week 3:
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Takkatakka
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"Animations" involving Hana...sounds very promising so far.
That could mean...what? 3 scenes? Probably 1 more elaborate with Felicia and 2 "minor" ones with Hana and Rosa?
Why there is no saves folder in Android version where the save file is stored automatically ?
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There seems to be a lull in discussion here, so I wanted to ask... what girl is the healthiest option for Edwin? Seeing Vicky's tapes obviously awakened something very dark inside of Edwin, so he needs someone to keep him in check, while also being understanding and suportive. I don't know how to mark spoilers, so watch out for those. I wanted to rank the girls on their long term compatibility with Edwin (in my opinion):
S tier:
*Hana- she's just a solid girl overall, that would be an excellent pick IRL too. When I first saw her, I thought she'd be the typical bitchy goth slut with daddy issues, but she's actually very well adjusted, and is probably the most mentally sound character in the game, with no major skeletons in her closet. I feel she'd support Edwin, help him overcome his demons. Her traditional mindset will also help her hold him accountable for his bullshit and not enable his sadistic impulses.
A tier:
*Sophia- she may or may not be an evil SS sciencist doing horrible experiments, but who cares when Edwin's chemistry with her is off the charts. The only reason she's lower than Hana is because Ms. Lundgren may not have Edwin's best interests at heart, but the pure girlfriend energy she radiated in the few scenes she appeared in make her a no brain pick.
*Veronica- I didn't care much for Veronica, but after the last update she shot up the list. I feel like she'd hold Edwin accountable and wouldn't roll over for his sadistic bullshit. Her only flaw is her lacking intellect, since you have to be dumb as fuck to enter the club for such a stupid reason. But I digress, maybe Edwin likes 'em stupid, Snu-Snu can crack even the strongest of men.
B tier:
*Mina- her heart's in the right place, but I don't think she's capable of giving Edwin the support he needs. She seems to be in the process of figuring herself out, and her sexual curiosity might just play into Edwin's worst impulses. Also, the rebound guy is never the relationship guy. She probably sees Edwin as the guy that fucks her until the next boyfriend arrives.
*Felicia- Even ignoring the fact that she's married, she probably wouldn't care much about Edwin's mental health as long as he supports her hedonistic pursuits. Also, it's easy for her to adore Edwin when she has it all, but she's running off to the next sugar daddy the second the extravagant dinners, champagne, coke, and expensive cars stop. I don't think Felicia will get a happy ending, because once you sell your soul, you'll never get it back. I don't think she could handle losing her "Sex and the City" lifestyle, as she's way too shallow to live a normal life.
C tier:
*Rosalind- Unfortunately, Edwin is extremely susceptible to Rose, both due to her doe eyed look and Edwins extreme mommy issues. But underneath the doe-like face lies a vicious mama bear that will do whatever it takes to keep her baby safe. While Edwin sees her as a parallel to Vicky that he can project his mother complex on, Rose sees him as a useful idiot that she can charm into helping her win the competition. Kat has also sniffed out Edwins mother complex, and is using Rose to stir up the hornets nest, making Edwin even more unbalanced. Also, even if Rose wins the competition and gets away scot free, there's no way she'd let a man associated with such a nasty place as the Club near her daughter. To Rose, Edwin's just another asshole standing in her way, and Edwin's too blinded by his mommy m̶i̶l̶k̶e̶r̶s̶ issues to excersise proper caution around Rose.
D tier:
*Ian- What if Ian's been looking for love in all the wrong places? What if his misguided crush on Vicky and his maid leaves him unsatisfied? What if his search for parental love leads him to the daddy that's always been there for him? What if Ian's tired of women and their bullshit? What if Ian's excessive skirt chasing is overcompesating for something? What if Ian's true wish is the turgid, girthy b̶o̶y̶ pussy pounder between Edwins legs? What Ian truly wants and needs is to get his boihole reamed out by daddy Edwin
E tier:
*Ms Beaufort- Are you really going to betray your best bro by fucking his own mother, you sick freak? You already NTRd his girlfriend, asshole. Srsly tho, this frigid bitch would probably give Edwin an unenthusiastic handjob while looking through her insect collection once a month. Her husband's probably a worse womanizer tha Ian, because he sure as fuck ain't getting any from this icy bitch.
F tier:
*Kathleen- man, fuck this old hag. This bitch is pure evil, corrupting everything she touches. There ain't no happy endings for Edwin with her. The only thing he can learn from Professor Kat is sexual assault. On the other hand, she's fucking fine for a grandma. Maybe Edwin's gonna be tempted to the dark side by the GILF pussy .
Also, honorable mention to the best girl Victoria. More Vicky gangbang scenes, pls. I know Edwin's got more of those tapes lying around somewhere.
S tier:
*Hana- she's just a solid girl overall, that would be an excellent pick IRL too. When I first saw her, I thought she'd be the typical bitchy goth slut with daddy issues, but she's actually very well adjusted, and is probably the most mentally sound character in the game, with no major skeletons in her closet. I feel she'd support Edwin, help him overcome his demons. Her traditional mindset will also help her hold him accountable for his bullshit and not enable his sadistic impulses.
A tier:
*Sophia- she may or may not be an evil SS sciencist doing horrible experiments, but who cares when Edwin's chemistry with her is off the charts. The only reason she's lower than Hana is because Ms. Lundgren may not have Edwin's best interests at heart, but the pure girlfriend energy she radiated in the few scenes she appeared in make her a no brain pick.
*Veronica- I didn't care much for Veronica, but after the last update she shot up the list. I feel like she'd hold Edwin accountable and wouldn't roll over for his sadistic bullshit. Her only flaw is her lacking intellect, since you have to be dumb as fuck to enter the club for such a stupid reason. But I digress, maybe Edwin likes 'em stupid, Snu-Snu can crack even the strongest of men.
B tier:
*Mina- her heart's in the right place, but I don't think she's capable of giving Edwin the support he needs. She seems to be in the process of figuring herself out, and her sexual curiosity might just play into Edwin's worst impulses. Also, the rebound guy is never the relationship guy. She probably sees Edwin as the guy that fucks her until the next boyfriend arrives.
*Felicia- Even ignoring the fact that she's married, she probably wouldn't care much about Edwin's mental health as long as he supports her hedonistic pursuits. Also, it's easy for her to adore Edwin when she has it all, but she's running off to the next sugar daddy the second the extravagant dinners, champagne, coke, and expensive cars stop. I don't think Felicia will get a happy ending, because once you sell your soul, you'll never get it back. I don't think she could handle losing her "Sex and the City" lifestyle, as she's way too shallow to live a normal life.
C tier:
*Rosalind- Unfortunately, Edwin is extremely susceptible to Rose, both due to her doe eyed look and Edwins extreme mommy issues. But underneath the doe-like face lies a vicious mama bear that will do whatever it takes to keep her baby safe. While Edwin sees her as a parallel to Vicky that he can project his mother complex on, Rose sees him as a useful idiot that she can charm into helping her win the competition. Kat has also sniffed out Edwins mother complex, and is using Rose to stir up the hornets nest, making Edwin even more unbalanced. Also, even if Rose wins the competition and gets away scot free, there's no way she'd let a man associated with such a nasty place as the Club near her daughter. To Rose, Edwin's just another asshole standing in her way, and Edwin's too blinded by his mommy m̶i̶l̶k̶e̶r̶s̶ issues to excersise proper caution around Rose.
D tier:
*Ian- What if Ian's been looking for love in all the wrong places? What if his misguided crush on Vicky and his maid leaves him unsatisfied? What if his search for parental love leads him to the daddy that's always been there for him? What if Ian's tired of women and their bullshit? What if Ian's excessive skirt chasing is overcompesating for something? What if Ian's true wish is the turgid, girthy b̶o̶y̶ pussy pounder between Edwins legs? What Ian truly wants and needs is to get his boihole reamed out by daddy Edwin
E tier:
*Ms Beaufort- Are you really going to betray your best bro by fucking his own mother, you sick freak? You already NTRd his girlfriend, asshole. Srsly tho, this frigid bitch would probably give Edwin an unenthusiastic handjob while looking through her insect collection once a month. Her husband's probably a worse womanizer tha Ian, because he sure as fuck ain't getting any from this icy bitch.
F tier:
*Kathleen- man, fuck this old hag. This bitch is pure evil, corrupting everything she touches. There ain't no happy endings for Edwin with her. The only thing he can learn from Professor Kat is sexual assault. On the other hand, she's fucking fine for a grandma. Maybe Edwin's gonna be tempted to the dark side by the GILF pussy .
Also, honorable mention to the best girl Victoria. More Vicky gangbang scenes, pls. I know Edwin's got more of those tapes lying around somewhere.