Xisorr

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Damn this game is so fucking good, cant believe I only just discovered it. Great story and the characters are so well written, all unique and believable.
I think my favourite girl is Dahlia, sincerely hope we get more time with her (don't suppose anyone's made a Sig with her??).

my only hang up is I don't particularly like Veronica, neither the model or the character. I don't suppose there's a way to swap her out and choose Lucy as the third carnation?

I also assume we're not getting any content with the Mom, Rosalind is the stand in for her yes?

Really great game, looking forward to next update.
 

Ness99

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I would like to see Hana fully corrupted, participate in the show, maybe have some sexual interaction with Killian during the shows? behind the hatred sometimes hides love :sneaky: I would love to see her replace Veronica of whom I am not a fan. I know that now Hana owns part of the club but maybe Kat has a plan to corrupt her. :love:
 

Rozhok

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my only hang up is I don't particularly like Veronica, neither the model or the character. I don't suppose there's a way to swap her out and choose Lucy as the third carnation?
I had the same with Felicia, and would have rather seen Lucy instead. But lets be fair, we have Rose anyway ;) All carnations do have an interesting storyline and personality, even the ones that we might find less attractive. Quite the unique aspect in a poon VN.
 
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Takkatakka

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I would like to see Hana fully corrupted, participate in the show, maybe have some sexual interaction with Killian during the shows? behind the hatred sometimes hides love :sneaky: I would love to see her replace Veronica of whom I am not a fan. I know that now Hana owns part of the club but maybe Kat has a plan to corrupt her. :love:
Keep your and Ian's dirty hands off Hana! :mad:
 

DougsLeftNut

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You want to replace THIS goddess over a shitty schoolteacher?

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No, just no.
I'm sure it doesn't help that I'm not particularly into muscle mommies, but her personality is the real problem. It's so full-tilt awful compared to the other LIs that I simply dropped her path and don't help her in any way. I didn't even bother with the last update since it was so heavy on her. I can check out the Rosalind content next go round.
 

Takkatakka

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I'm sure it doesn't help that I'm not particularly into muscle mommies, but her personality is the real problem. It's so full-tilt awful compared to the other LIs that I simply dropped her path and don't help her in any way. I didn't even bother with the last update since it was so heavy on her. I can check out the Rosalind content next go round.
Well...sounds more like you don't know her personality since you dropped her path. :KEK:
 

Maviarab

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Well...sounds more like you don't know her personality since you dropped her path. :KEK:
To be fair, personality and attitude are two very different things. Her issues are her own...and no one elses problem, and no one else decerves to have or take her attitude because of her issues. she can have all the issues she wants, the fact she treats everyone (inc the MC to begin with) with complete disdain actually tells a lot about 'personality'.

You can still hate all the things going on in your life, but treat outside people with respect and decorum...something she definitely does not do.
 

strangelandQQ

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Veronica had the most trouble at the show (remember the qualification and the cup?).
Veronica's problem is a combination of Rosalinda's (debts because of her husband = debts because of the trainer's setup) and Felicia's (important thing for her destroyed because of her husband's indifference = important thing for Veronica on the verge of being destroyed because of Samson's scheming).
Seriously, if it weren't for Hana, I'd be romancing Veronica. They're similar to each other in general, both feisty, honest and straightforward.
I'm just not a fan of muscular Valkyries.
As for "it's their problem and no one else's", you could say that about any of the carnations

sorry for any mistakes, english not my native language
 

Takkatakka

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To be fair, personality and attitude are two very different things. Her issues are her own...and no one elses problem, and no one else decerves to have or take her attitude because of her issues. she can have all the issues she wants, the fact she treats everyone (inc the MC to begin with) with complete disdain actually tells a lot about 'personality'.

You can still hate all the things going on in your life, but treat outside people with respect and decorum...something she definitely does not do.
Yeah, how dare she not being super friendly to the people at a creepy sex club that exploits women in need. :KEK:

She just tries to detach herself from the club and the people in it as much as she can. When you do follow her and get to know her better, you can actually find that she might be the best written character in the game (which is saying quiet a bit).
 

lkjhgfdfghjkl

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To be fair, personality and attitude are two very different things. Her issues are her own...and no one elses problem, and no one else decerves to have or take her attitude because of her issues. she can have all the issues she wants, the fact she treats everyone (inc the MC to begin with) with complete disdain actually tells a lot about 'personality'.

You can still hate all the things going on in your life, but treat outside people with respect and decorum...something she definitely does not do.
Some people like a hard-ass
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Turret

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Yeah, how dare she not being super friendly to the people at a creepy sex club that exploits women in need. :KEK:

She just tries to detach herself from the club and the people in it as much as she can. When you do follow her and get to know her better, you can actually find that she might be the best written character in the game (which is saying quiet a bit).
Here we see well how different the tastes of the players are! For me, Veronika comes very last among the 3 Carnations, not because of her figure or abrasive behaviour, but her personailty!
Of all Carnations, Veronica is the most realityblind by a margin, she is way too stubborn! Unlike Feli and Rosi, who would gain some real win if they succeed, Veronica only would get a wound patch. She even acknowledges this that even a win at PC is nothing more than a temporary bandaid and still is competing! That is a worthy of a triple facepalm, considering that she could ditch the Gym and start anew with another own gym. Even Samson mentioned that Veronica does not need to be at PC and could start fresh.
In addition, Veronica also ruined her marriage for this frakking gym, which was already in dire straits before she took over, Samson simply added to the burden.
Veronica clearly is not dumb, but she behaves like an idiot on this! Yes, seeing that a dream comes to an end, is bitter and hard. But she is in the position to still live her dream with a new gym of her own. She has that option, but instead comes to PC, despite knowing it will simply stop the sinking for a little time, nothing more:FacePalm:
Showing some spine and not folding at the first harsh wind is great, but a mule pales against the stubborness of Veronica! No thank you, stubbornness to this degree has the tendency to ruin relationships very quickly! I´ve seen something like this in real live with a friends couple, so no thank you when it comes to Veronica.

There are several reasons why I consider Hana, Felicia and Sophia as the best fits for our MC and in general great characters.
There is not much to be said about our resident goth girl drummer and Mafia heir Hana, we all know why she is a good option. On the outside, Felicia Ford is a hot slutty golddigger, but once you see her inside, you learn that she is an intelligent, creative and compassionate person. In fact from all the cast she is one of the nicest persons you can meet! e.g. she gives money for Rosi, if you ask her, no matter that Rosi is her competitor and her being at PC to gain the influence/money to save/reopen the school in her hometown is something noteworthy.
Even our socially challenged, hot, nerd genius, heir to van Doren´s medical empire Sophia Lundgren has more going for her than Veronica. She can really click with our fellow nerd MC on nerd-to-nerd base:);) , despite a big part was also a test for Edwin. I know that some members here say Sophia played a role, but considering we also learn over the game that Sophia is socially very ackward, blunt and even gives Kat the creeps, I truly doubt Sophia could play a role this convincingly.
A big part of their chemistry and fitting together well must be real, not an act. I agree with the member who speculated that Sophia might be Edwin´s fitting female part between his angel-devil "mentors/mothers" Viktoria and Kat.
I sincerely hope we get a Sophia love/relationship path to get a nice, even half dozen LIs for the game.
 

Maviarab

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Yeah, how dare she not being super friendly to the people at a creepy sex club that exploits women in need. :KEK:

She just tries to detach herself from the club and the people in it as much as she can. When you do follow her and get to know her better, you can actually find that she might be the best written character in the game (which is saying quiet a bit).
And yet...none of the others treat you with the same contempt...
 

Turret

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Well, yeah, because Felicia still thinks this will be fun and Rosalind is a consummate manipulator. Veronica's just being honest, which is a big part of her appeal.
While I agree with you that Rosi is among the best manipulators in the PC cast, I disagree on your read on Feli. For our hedonist Felicia it is a bonis that parts(!) of the competition are fun for her, but that is only a bonus. She is there to gather independent influence/money/power to save the school of her hometown.
In addition, you and Felicia know each other already a bit when meeeting at PC. It is possible to already have made a good impression on Felicia by that time.
 

se20299

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That's a very interesting topic. I already did a long ass analysis of Edwin's character, where I stated that he will never have a healthy sex and love life unless he fully comes to terms with his mother's porno career. He does a lot of mental gymnastics and compartmentalization in order to seperate Vicky's wholesome housewife image with the depraved slut he saw getting ganbanged on camera, when in fact they are the same person, two sides of Victoria that exist simultaneously. Now I don't blame Edwin for doing so, I'd say that's a pretty normal reaction to watching your mother getting glazed by strangers on camera. The problem arises when he joins the Club, as his subconsious biases and mommy issued may very well negatively affect his livelohood and safety.

Which brings us to the doe eyed MILF manipulator herself, Rose. I'd say her manipulations are entierely justified, as she's the only carnation who's in the most immidiate danger should she lose. Plus, Edwin doesn't deserve anything better for associating with people such as August and Chuck. As for my main point, I don't think Rose's some machevillain manipulator like some users portray her as, but it's Edwin who's extremely susceptible to Rose because of his astronomical mommy issues. He was under Rose's thrall as soon as he finds out that she's a single mother making a living on her back. His anger towards Rose when she attempts to manipulate him with sex is also very telling, because women like Rose (read Vicky) are supposed to be angelic and pure, and Rose broke out of the "nurturing mommy" box he put her in his mind.

My point is also supported by the fact that Rose's the LI Edwin seems the most attracted to from the get go, while he's being very ambiguous about the others until he gets to know them. His cruelty and depravity during the full deal route also shows the anger and disdain he has towards his mother, specifically her slutty porno side he so desperately wants to not exist. This is also supported by the flashback Edwin gets while making Rose lick his cum off the floor near the end of the update, where we see a cum and condom covered Vicky getting choked and roughly fucked, reduced to a bubbling mess. So it's not that Rose is some master manipulator, it'st that she checks all the boxes there are to have Edwin on her leash.

As for Felicia and Veronica, I don't have much to say. I'd say Veronica is the weakest of the 3 carnations, and the latest update did nothing to change my mind. She seems cool in the dude-bro kinda way, but she also comes off as very dim witted and naive. She got roped into the club sheerly due to her own stubborness and stupidity, and she seems well aware of that, judging by how defensive she is most of the time. Her amazon act is slowly crumbling as well, as she seems to be getting more rattled by the depths of depravity she sees at the club.

I have done a complete 180 on Felicia. I find her honesty very refreshing, and she has no illusions about who she is or where she's at. She seems to be very much in tune with her true self, almost like Kat is. I do wonder what her breaking point is, because I'm 100% sure that Kat will find some way to trully unsettle Felicia, despite her depraved and kinky tastes.
 
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