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How do you feel about sandbox/hybrid-sandbox games? (Pick 1-2)

  • I prefer sandbox games above all else.

  • I don't mind them if they are done right.

  • I generally avoid, but will make exceptions.

  • No. Burn em all to the ground.


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AureliusBlaze

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I haven't been super active in the thread, but I'm a little surprised about the hostile tone because someone else has different preferences than you, if I understood correctly? Don't forget it's an open forum so many people who feel similarly to who you responded to—including the ones who'd never say anything (lurkers) or would use more civil wording when stating their preferences—are also under fire with your response. I'm not trying to tone police by any means, but I just wanted to express my surprise as I've seen you be very chill and civil otherwise.

To be clear, in the following comments, I'm not telling you to do anything. It's just my thoughts and perspective.

You aren't going to get cucked. You'd be hard-pressed to please 8 women in a single day. MC's one lil cat bro. He can only hump so fast xD. Also, like I said previously, this is a harem-style poly. Some of the girls are straight and only there for MC. Some of the girls are more flexible.
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None of them are going to steal the girl MC is about to bang and fuck her in front of him. If MC's already preoccupied with a bunch of girls in his bed and some of the others are feeling the mood too, it would make sense that they'd either entertain themselves or have some fun with some of the other girls that are into that. That's not cucking. You're just being a selfish hoe.
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This isn't open for debate. It's going to be a harem-style poly and it's very unlikely you'll change my mind otherwise. If you're so insecure that you can't handle some of the other girls, who aren't even relevant to the scene MC's in, having some fun on the side, then Idk what to tell ya. Go try some other game that's some ultimate harem power fantasy. My game is more centered around developing story, with characters that have their own whims, passions, and preferences.
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Also, I never directly stated I'd be rendering those. Pretty much 98% of the game is from the direct viewpoint of MC. MC's not some x-ray having dude who can just glare at girls through walls. The only time scenes like this will be visible is if MC is in a voyeurism scenario. I've had the fun idea of Orra sneaking MC into a closet or such so that he can enjoy the show of watching Orra absolutely go to town on one of the more open girls. The girls were already planning it, it's just Orra wanting to treat MC with a fun show.
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To my understanding, I would enjoy a large majority of the game. A very small portion (lesbian, lesbian cucking), as I understand the current plans of implementation, would potentially ruin the entire experience for some, unfortunately myself included. I don't think developers should change their game into something it isn't because of feedback from players, but in some cases like here I think it truly makes sense to give the power to the player as both things have the potential to exist.
To re-iterate a last time: naturally, anything you do with your game is your choice. I just wanted to throw my 5 cents in, as a fellow developer, and perhaps offer the different perspective in a more easy-to-understand manner. Cheers.

Edit:
To address your response regarding the definition of cucking:
There's both willing and unwilling cuckolds, although I believe the original definition required it to be willing. It gets a bit muddy when you start talking porn. I don't think the exact definition is that important though. All that's really important here is that the player would be a non-participant; they're watching. Replace Orra with a man or her partner in the situation with a man and think about the situation again, hopefully that makes it clearer what others would see it as when not into woman x woman.

A more complex thing here, is that although you can write the character to love it, you do not overwrite the feelings of the player who may be feeling very differently because they were put in that situation. I'm aware the immediate thought may be it's literally impossible for you to account for that always or even give a shit—I know. It goes back to blabla player choice, I'm sure it gets tiring to hear me be verbose about that :KEK:
 
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JigglyStone - Fero Seele

Paracosmic Reality Dev
Game Developer
Apr 27, 2018
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This is literally cucking, lmao.
I mean, fuck, why bother with the closet when you can just sit him in a chair in the corner and be a proper cuck? At least that way he'll be more comfortable watching the show.
He is right, this is cucking.
Cucking:
Urban Dictionary:

To enjoy arranging for and watching other men have rough demeaning sex with one's wife. Often perceived as a masochistic humiliating experience for the husband as opposed to normal swinging.
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Marriam-Webster's Dictionary:
to be sexually unfaithful to (someone, especially a man)
also : to have sexual relations with the spouse or partner of (someone else, especially a man)

Both of the definitions above imply that MC is being negatively impacted (willingly or not) by the experience OR that the cucking is happening from someone outside the relationship and imposing on MC in a way that undermines his role in the relationship. Neither of these will be true in my game.

I'll concede that I could've worded my Orra example better. A better way to look at it would be that Orra and the girl she's going to have some fun with were already planning to have a romp. Not with the goal or attempt to humiliate or degrade MC, but simply to enjoy each other and have a good time. As a treat to MC, Orra wanted to put on a show for MC and decided to let him watch. The point is, MC wasn't about to fuck Orra and the MC wasn't about to fuck the other girl. He's purely there for the capacity to "enjoy the show" and mechanically there for the player to be able to enjoy the show. If he were about to go mating press a girl and suddenly Orra strapped him to a chair before railing the shit outta her with a strap-on right in front of him, then I could understand your concerns. But that's not going to happen.

To restate my original words:
None of them are going to steal the girl MC is about to bang and fuck her in front of him.

Now here's where you dinks need to pay attention to.

MC is not the king of a harem. MC is in a POLY. This means that he's as much in a relationship with the girls, as the girls are in with each other. He might be the only dick in the group, but he's not the only one getting something out of the whole situation. No one is being unfaithful, as they are all in a relationship with each other.

I've made my intentions clear with the group being a poly and not a harem. If that's a show-stopper for you, then please just move on.
 

Vortex@

Active Member
Jun 28, 2022
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I haven't been super active in the thread, but I'm a little surprised about the hostile tone because someone else has different preferences than you, if I understood correctly? Don't forget it's an open forum so many people who feel similarly to who you responded to—including the ones who'd never say anything (lurkers) or would use more civil wording when stating their preferences—are also under fire with your response. I'm not trying to tone police by any means, but I just wanted to express my surprise as I've seen you be very chill and civil otherwise.

To be clear, in the following comments, I'm not telling you to do anything. It's just my thoughts and perspective.


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To my understanding, I would enjoy a large majority of the game. A very small portion (lesbian, lesbian cucking), as I understand the current plans of implementation, would potentially ruin the entire experience for some, unfortunately myself included. I don't think developers should change their game into something it isn't because of feedback from players, but in some cases like here I think it truly makes sense to give the power to the player as both things have the potential to exist.
To re-iterate a last time: naturally, anything you do with your game is your choice. I just wanted to throw my 5 cents in, as a fellow developer, and perhaps offer the different perspective in a more easy-to-understand manner. Cheers.
Good comments. For me it is as you said. It might as well be other dudes fucking our girls. To me it feels the same, and find neither hot. But, I wish the dev good luck and hope everything with his dad turns out ok.
 
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JigglyStone - Fero Seele

Paracosmic Reality Dev
Game Developer
Apr 27, 2018
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I look for the german translation and a walkthrough-mod
:love: (y)
I'm afraid you'll be sadly disappointed on both fronts!

German humor is no laughing matter and is simply put, the wurst...

Also, no walkthrough mod is necessary at this time or really in the future. All choices in the game will have information regarding the consequences of the choice in the dialogue box just before the choice or directly below the choice.
 

PSYlevi

Newbie
Feb 3, 2018
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Cucking:
Urban Dictionary:

To enjoy arranging for and watching other men have rough demeaning sex with one's wife. Often perceived as a masochistic humiliating experience for the husband as opposed to normal swinging.
Cuck
Urban Dictionary:

A cuckold, or cuck for short, is a person who finds sexual pleasure in their partner having intercourse with people that are not him.
 

Havik79

Conversation Conqueror
Sep 5, 2019
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I'm afraid you'll be sadly disappointed on both fronts!

German humor is no laughing matter and is simply put, the wurst...

Also, no walkthrough mod is necessary at this time or really in the future. All choices in the game will have information regarding the consequences of the choice in the dialogue box just before the choice or directly below the choice.
As for the German humour, made me think of this.
 

Pgsurprise

Member
Nov 27, 2022
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147
JigglyStone - Fero Seele you really need to add folks to your ignore list and not engage with them, they'll just clutter up your thread with stupidity. No sane person thinks your game has cuckoldry, and those who do aren't worth fighting with. Ignore 'em and they'll eventually stop posting.
I was wondering if he could just set an auto responder for "short updates" and "guy". I guess cuck needs to be added now.
 

Pgsurprise

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Nov 27, 2022
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Cuck
Urban Dictionary:

A cuckold, or cuck for short, is a person who finds sexual pleasure in their partner having intercourse with people that are not him.
mydictionary.head

Cuck:
DEV describes a scene you think is cucking will be included so you move on or deal with it if you like the story enough.

If you've been reading this thread for a while, this dev has a story they want to write and has, as far as I remember, never changed it for anyone. I gotta respect that.

This is supposed to be tongue in cheek, but may sound rude. The point is y'all are probably wasting your time trying to get changes here.
 
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