WHAT KINDA FLOW CHART IS THIS??
WHERE IS THE START?!?!?!
Where do you EVEN START!?!?!
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WHERE IS THE START?!?!?!
Where do you EVEN START!?!?!
StrawberryCheese83
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The game and its paths are both fucked up crazy! Most of it makes no sense at all! It s a nightmare to play just one path! Even if you find a Path....the LI`s and stuff...is forced! In conclusion : After dozends of useless choices.....the real Scenes (where choices matter) are without choices!!
boulimanus
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I don't know.
Really not sure, but maybe, just maybe, where it says "Start here" ?
Worth a shot...
Awesome........Where Exactly is that???
If the Starting point of a Flow chart is Easily missable, Its not a Good flow chart.
Also, WHO THE HELL PUTS THE START IN THE MIDDLE?!?!?!?!?
Like this is just pissing me off Coz when I had to make flow-charts back in my Uni Days, I would have been CRUCIFIED for something like this.
A flowchart needs FLOW.......ITS IN THE NAME!!!!
p.s: Also Not angry at you, just the Flow chart pissed me off on a Personal level.
Cheers.
boulimanus
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The reason I replied is because I assumed you weren't angry at anyone, so no worries.
Otherwise your post wouldn't deserve any response and is not the right way to deal with a problem.
Those flowcharts that you did back in your uni days have nothing to do with this. Probably were very simple linear things that would hardly need flowcharts. Also, maybe the dev wasn't as fortunate as you to learn that skill at uni.
Either way, if you have good advice to give to improve the artefact, do it in a clear manner and I'm sure it can then benefit everyone.
slavegal
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I think you can safely label it with the tag of female protagonist, since it has plenty of female POV, even with her choices in the NTR route. Thank you for holding back the excessive BBC slut content in the second half of the game, TBO, I have had enough of it; there is simply too much of it on this website senselessly, which doesn't do justice to either women or black men.
Pardon, but that is BS! Stag NTS fans will NOT abide humiliation and kick the wannabe Bull out.
I would agree on the aspect of humiliation I wouldn't say it's part of the fetish , it's more personal preference and even then it would still vary from person to person in regards to what level of humiliation they enjoy
this is one of the many cases where the silly (imo) japanese naming scheme breaks down. Far easier to say fans of cuckoldry or fans of swinging.
There are some breaks in the Netorase story in this low play Chloe didn't even kiss Derek, but in chapter 3 she says she had sex with her when she had no time or place in the story and it's not a bug since there's nothing in the code.
I also don't like humiliation so it's not your much of a fetish, but Netorare and Netorase include humiliation, sharing and open relationships do not include humiliation and swinging is just couples swapping, this does not prevent a couple who swings from also having Bull or having an open relationship, but as a definition of swinging fetish it should only be couples swapping but isolated this is also a problem with Tags here on the forum very plural in the definition.
So humiliation can play a part in NTS, sharing , hotwifing etc what ever you want to call it
But I wouldn't say it's an absolute it completely depends on both parties preferences as not only does the male need to be into it for it to work but the female has to be comfortable enough to do it
If a female was to just start humiliating there partner out of the blue it doesn't then suddenly mean the male is now into it which would then lead to a discussion in around what works for them / around the finer details of the fetish that they enjoy
Now there could be some light teasing going on but I wouldnt necessarily say that it falls into humiliation it depends on what's side I guess
Now the NTS world is not something I'm personally involved in but I highly doubt that those kind of relationships always play out the way they are portrayed in avns
Look-see
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yup. instead of going surfing choose lay in the sun. you dont miss out on the sex scene with the surfer girl in the hut but you do miss out on the club scene.
Maybe the translation messed up what I meant.
What I talked about was fetish tags, but it also applies to classifying fetishes.
A fetish can only have one dominant general characteristic, otherwise it would be impossible to classify. You should classify by differences, not by similarities. A car is red and a red apple are both red, so an apple and a car are the same. This kind of generalization should be avoided.
People are the ones who can have different characteristics, not fetishes. (Couple A) is a couples swapper, and the wife has a bull lover with a full package. (Couple B) only practices couples swapping but doesn't have a bull. Both couples swap with other couples, so they are swingers, but only (Couple A) practices cuckold fetishes. It would be wrong to say that all couples who practice swinging also practice cuckold fetishes.
The couple in the game Loke and Chloe practice several fetishes:
Netoraze; A husband enjoys seeing his wife with other men with superior characteristics, Derek.
SPH; small penis humiliation; every time Chloe talks about how other guys' penises are better, Loke gets mentioned.
Open marriage; both can seek sex with other people individually. Loke had sex with the Masseuse, Amanda, MaKani, Alexis, Chloe, Derek, Koa, and Pau and their gang
slavegal
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Strictly speaking, they are irrelevant. Vocal humiliation is a part of the BDSM, sadism- masochism dynamic precisely. According to some theories, NTS(Cuckolding) is a form of masochism that could include vocal humiliation, but it is not necessary. As for NTR, once the husband finds out, it's game over —let alone vocally humiliating him.
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NTR, NTS yes.
"Harem" doesn't end with Chloe's call about the beach party at Diana's house.
When I talk about humiliation, I don't just mean verbal humiliation; I also include behavioral humiliation, facial expressions, isolation, and others.
Many developers and players consider NTS without humiliation to be sharing.
The author really enjoys humiliation, as even the "One Girl Harem" route doesn't have weak humiliation lines, but they're there.
Like before sex with Diana, there's that conversation about Greg's penis being small but thick as a soda can. Then Diana looks at Loke's penis and says, "It's the same size as his brother's," "I'm feeling horny now, it'll do," compliments him, and best of all, "Look, cuckold, at least his dick is erect to defend against yours." I even got it from her husband. It's everything a harem player fantasizes about playing the bull.
And it's not Chloe's expression; that's not necessary in the harem route.
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But conversations after sex. Chloe commenting on her poor physical performance during intercourse.
Not sure if its been discovered but, as far as I can tell, the Chapter 1 Beach Gangbang sequence never sets DerekFuck=True and thus the Chapter 2 Gangbang sequence does not initiate since it doesn't see the DerekFuck.
Lol j/k scrolled up 3 comments and it's right there. Oops.
I just started playing this and already need to say thank you.
After so many frustratingly NTR-labelled games that were actually just NTS, this is the first one in a long time that actually allows for a true NTR experience/path. I'm getting cheated on while roleplaying as someone who doesn't want to get cheated on and without having to deliberately make bad choices for the husband in order to turn the wife against him just to see the ntr, and without having to play as the wife deliberately making choices against the mc/myself just to see the ntr.
Her cheating so far (blowjob behind surf hut, kissing other men on nightclub dance floor) is seen happening in the background with the MC remaining oblivious and there's even a choice to skip seeing things from her pov when she takes those guys to the nightclub bathroom so that I can still get that maximum surprise, that supreme NTR shock when MC finally catches her in the act (I assume).
Bravo!
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Jumped the gun. Design seems to have changed a bit afterwards with the introduction of forced pov of the wife, witnessing her flashbacks, picking dialog choices for her. Still hoping to get that eventual NTR kick anyway.
Just me personal preference: if there had been an option to just skip all the scenes seen from the wife's pov and her choices, same as there was for the nightclub bathroom scene I would've picked that in order stay as close to the MC's pov as possible, to retain maximum potential shock/surprise for when she's finally caught in the act. Having to explicitly watch her cheat like that in all those scenes is making me hate her prematurely and fall too much out of sync with the MC. MC will still be thinking of her as his beloved wife when he's about to catch her in the act while the player will already know her all too well as a dirty cheating whore. Far less of a "I can't believe she did that!" kick for the NTR player that way.
After so many frustratingly NTR-labelled games that were actually just NTS, this is the first one in a long time that actually allows for a true NTR experience/path. I'm getting cheated on while roleplaying as someone who doesn't want to get cheated on and without having to deliberately make bad choices for the husband in order to turn the wife against him just to see the ntr, and without having to play as the wife deliberately making choices against the mc/myself just to see the ntr.
Her cheating so far (blowjob behind surf hut, kissing other men on nightclub dance floor) is seen happening in the background with the MC remaining oblivious and there's even a choice to skip seeing things from her pov when she takes those guys to the nightclub bathroom so that I can still get that maximum surprise, that supreme NTR shock when MC finally catches her in the act (I assume).
Bravo!
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Jumped the gun. Design seems to have changed a bit afterwards with the introduction of forced pov of the wife, witnessing her flashbacks, picking dialog choices for her. Still hoping to get that eventual NTR kick anyway.
Just me personal preference: if there had been an option to just skip all the scenes seen from the wife's pov and her choices, same as there was for the nightclub bathroom scene I would've picked that in order stay as close to the MC's pov as possible, to retain maximum potential shock/surprise for when she's finally caught in the act. Having to explicitly watch her cheat like that in all those scenes is making me hate her prematurely and fall too much out of sync with the MC. MC will still be thinking of her as his beloved wife when he's about to catch her in the act while the player will already know her all too well as a dirty cheating whore. Far less of a "I can't believe she did that!" kick for the NTR player that way.
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FatYoda
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I hate the Amanda waking up with brother...and it's not cause i don't want her sleeping with other guys. I like the sharing aspect...but she just got fucked by MC and his wife (in my game), she's not desperate, she knows how to handle her alcohol (bartenders are beasts) and he's ugly as fuck and a complete douchebag. She's way above that. the redhead works cause she's married to an ugly idiot anyway and it gives me the chance to maybe cuck the brother with her...that'd be fun since his wife is gone and she wasn't attractive anyway. I kind of hope she comes back looking good towards the end of the game so brother wants her back and we get to cuck the brother with her.
turbokinetics
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Exactly my thoughts on brothers wife. Hope she gets a makeover lol