Alcahest

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I feel like patreon swings around the ban-hammer arbitrarily as I've seen porn accounts that clearly break TOS stay around for years while others get banned swiftly. Probably different moderators all with their own subjective views on what skirts the line or not.

I guess Grasputin shouldn't worry as long as he didn't personally get warned by patreon but still make some plan B contingency plans in case he gets targeted in the future.
Yes, I hope it is as you say, that this is the random creator ban we see now and then. But what Patreon said sounded alarming so I've set up a Subscribestar, just in case, waiting for approval as we speak. As long as I don't see more signs of real porn devs getting kicked from Patreon I won't bother with the SS account (the only reason I've added it to the OP is to speed up the approval) but since the approval can take a while it is good to have the account ready to go if needed.
 
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Overlurker

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The game runs from the supplied Java files which are from the Liberica 13 JDK. They are located in the folder "jdk64" (or "jdk" if you run the 32-bit version). It is possible that the latest release, Liberica 14, has fixed whatever causes you problem. You could download it here:
Assuming you run Windows, then download the zip file, the Full JDK for your OS (64- or 32-bit). Go to the game folder, rename the folder jdk64/jdk to something else, then create a new folder jdk64/jdk and unzip the Liberica zip file there. Now the game should run from these files instead.
Didn't work or I'm not doing something correctly, well just got back from work and have to sleep, I'll recheck next weekend
 

grave_merc

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Just an update on my situation - the Patreon support said they probably will keep me on as long as I'll remove all the mentions of the game from my profile. So I basically cleaned it, deleted all the posts, and we'll see. Stay tuned.
 

Nicolaplaz

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Is it possible to make a translation into another language?
I really like being able to read the text in Italian.
 

lnppo

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Is it possible to make a translation into another language?
I really like being able to read the text in Italian.
Since this is through Java and doesn't have any modding support I think you would have to do it through hex editing which is (imo) a fucking nightmare.
 

Reaver

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Just an update on my situation - the Patreon support said they probably will keep me on as long as I'll remove all the mentions of the game from my profile. So I basically cleaned it, deleted all the posts, and we'll see. Stay tuned.
Just make posts everywhere else but there, and they can eat a dick. Patreon is a POS. Have you tried any other sites like but not Patreon?

Also Great work on the game.
 
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Just please don't become one of those devs who declare 'monthly updates' but later they become 'a month +5 days' then '+10 days' then '+ a couple of weeks because [new-reason-every-month]' then 'a month for development and a month polishing + 1 day so Patreon can process the pledges' and then poof they transform into Gumdrop or, best case scenario, Icstor.

Please don't.
 

scarfer

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Jeez, calm down. Life happens sometimes. GRasputin has always been open and forthcoming with information. Plus, he said he needed a break. If that break took longer than expected, it's not the end of the world.

And we're talking about the Patreon release. We won't get it for another couple weeks anyway.
 

Arnel

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Just please don't become one of those devs who declare 'monthly updates' but later they become 'a month +5 days' then '+10 days' then '+ a couple of weeks because [new-reason-every-month]' then 'a month for development and a month polishing + 1 day so Patreon can process the pledges' and then poof they transform into Gumdrop or, best case scenario, Icstor.

Please don't.
Very true, friend. I'v seen that shit many times. Any developer become more lazy, cus every creator need something new to do his job. Projects getting old and uninteresting for those.
 

Alcahest

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Just please don't become one of those devs who declare 'monthly updates' but later they become 'a month +5 days' then '+10 days' then '+ a couple of weeks because [new-reason-every-month]' then 'a month for development and a month polishing + 1 day so Patreon can process the pledges' and then poof they transform into Gumdrop or, best case scenario, Icstor.

Please don't.
I think Icstor claimed he was burned out? It has happened to many devs and I can understand why. I'm trying to prevent that from happening to me, that's why the extra days to rest. Remember that in the beginning I released new updates once every two months (no set dates just releasing whenever I felt ready with the update). I felt that was too seldom so I changed it to once a month, aiming for the 1st every month. That meant the content per update was smaller, but not half the amount because I didn't want to make the updates too small. So I worked harder, with less rest, bascially working on the game every day, to put out those monthly updates. It worked well for a couple of updates but in the end it became too draining, taking the enjoyment out of it and that's not sustainable (see beginning of this post). When you get the warning signs you need to rest. I could go back to the early way of doing it once every two months, but that still feels too seldom so I'm adding a few days rest now to see how it works. I enjoyed working on v0.8, so it's looking good so far.

For Patreon billing reasons I might adjust the release dates to avoid releasing an update too close to the end of the month. New patrons getting billed twice in a matter of days is not fun to see.
 
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Nicolaplaz

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In my life, I have learned to wait for Blizzard games.
Diablo 3 is almost ready... soon... very soon....
Then months passed.
The story is the same, now I'm waiting Diablo 4.
So, take your time GRasputin. I'm sure you will do it sooner than Blizzard.
 

azertyfake

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No need to pressure the dev here...

He's so chill, always responding here. And kindly gave us updates on his work even if we are not all patreons.

And remember that everybody can slack off or feel tired sometimes, it happens (even with your paid job). Nobody is a machine.
Programming is quite demanding and working alone also.
 
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I was respectful and polite, never accused him of anything, just expressed a concern as a patron based on current delay. Nothing more. Rasputin responded and I'm more than happy to support this project as long as he stays open and committed. No drama.
 
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