Radicallity

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True, although you're making arguments against points I never myself made. Firstly, you're discussing why there technically isn't incest in the game and policies of platforms like Patreon. But even your own post indicates that incest was always planned for this but hidden b/c of certain policies. The patch here merely puts back what was always meant to be. So yes, there is (hidden) incest.

Secondly, the incest that exists isn't a lot right now. We're not far into the game, so there isn't that much: multiple scenes, but not a lot overall. In no way did I imply there wouldn't be a lot more nor that it wasn't intended or anything. So I don't know what you're trying to argue, but there is incest, it is not a lot right now, and there will continue to be more going forward.
Okay. Fair. I could have been more exact about the point I was trying to make. My point is; unless the one writing the patch for the game is the devs, and that is still very much an 'if' factor, there is the chance that an update will come along that ends up changing the code that the patch targets and whoever wrote the patch will simply not respond in accordance.

I'd also like to reiterate how nosy Patreon is despite it being more than immoral. It is entirely possible some dickhead on the board will snoop around, find the patch, and demand the devs alter the code to render the patch ineffective and even demand an anti-cheat be added to the game. I sounds stupid but this is Patreon we are talking about.
 
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Okay. Fair. I could have been more exact about the point I was trying to make. My point is; unless the one writing the patch for the game is the devs, and that is still very much an 'if' factor, there is the chance that an update will come along that ends up changing the code that the patch targets and whoever wrote the patch will simply not respond in accordance.

I'd also like to reiterate how nosy Patreon is despite it being more than immoral. It is entirely possible some dickhead on the board will snoop around, find the patch, and demand the devs alter the code to render the patch ineffective and even demand an anti-cheat be added to the game. I sounds stupid but this is Patreon we are talking about.
sadly:(

thats the reason why the devs arent included into any of those "illegal"/anti-patreon monstrosities such as inc and similar.
all those are made/modified by the third parties, and it is not up to the devs to fight it (by preventing, changing code to be more patch-hostile etc), as it is not to them to encourage it in any way.

at the end - welcome to the "demo( n)cratic" planet called earth-something!
here we have prohibited fucking, and killing/slaughtering people encouraged/advertised.
could be overpopulation thing:unsure:
or just the "rulers" being sick hypocritical limp-dicks:BootyTime:
 

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sadly:(

thats the reason why the devs arent included into any of those "illegal"/anti-patreon monstrosities such as inc and similar.
all those are made/modified by the third parties, and it is not up to the devs to fight it (by preventing, changing code to be more patch-hostile etc), as it is not to them to encourage it in any way.

at the end - welcome to the "demo( n)cratic" planet called earth-something!
here we have prohibited fucking, and killing/slaughtering people encouraged/advertised.
could be overpopulation thing:unsure:
or just the "rulers" being sick hypocritical limp-dicks:BootyTime:
On the plus side, you have my favorite girl from Erastorm: Sandstorm on your signature. So that makes me feel better.
 

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On the plus side, you have my favorite girl from Erastorm: Sandstorm on your signature. So that makes me feel better.
you disagree, or strongly agree, with above posted?
anyway, sorry for ruining your mood...a pure luck that signature, eh? :HideThePain:
 

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you disagree, or strongly agree, with above posted?
anyway, sorry for ruining your mood...a pure luck that signature, eh? :HideThePain:
Oh, I agree. I was just saying that although what you said is unfortunately true, I was happy to see the signature.
 
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Radicallity

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I played the game for the first time and I must say im supprised its not actual "real" game.
The quality in art, style and mechanics for a "porn game" is pretty high in this one.
The sound effect and music is pretty nicly done, heck even the little sound effect when you want to save is pretty cool. + These flashy background effects...nice o_O(y)
And damn, these hand drawn animations are hot :coffee:
The Story is awesome, not only how MC is potrayed but also the world surrounding him.
From the Title I already had my suspicion what and how this game will approach it and I must say I was wrong...

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Sadly...one think I didnt expected and also made me upset is that Kirara will die during the first part of the story, no mater what you do.

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What buggers me is MC best friend Markus. Dont get me wrong, he is a nice guy and he is pretty a good bro for us...but I would rather have changed his fate with that of the girl I mentioned above... :cry:
But it seems he will play a much bigger role within the plot device you found during your early game. Question is, will be it a good one where we have to fight him or just continue to be good buddies ?
I mean after they touched the pillars and their body changes into handsome chads (no homo). And he has much content for not being a secondary main cast. And then comes the scene when both of them are naked...sheesh.
I like how they look in their paraside forms but in a porn game, more in a game were harem is possible, two guys gets the same amount of attention and both have the same size of the D...I think there will be some fuckery coming in the next updates.
Well, thats my experience with such type of games.

I first thought the game will go into seing Markus banging other girls (NTR?), sharing content etc which I dont like, but I didnt saw this in the planned tags. So im not so sure on this one yet. I mean the parasite said they both have to fight AND fuck to avoid getting killed by the parasite itself, and we know how much Markus likes the pleasure of flesh....so :unsure:
Since its all about being a Parasite, and Parasite consume other stuff, even other parasites, I could see in the game that there are different Parasites out there who are like bosses and MC gets stronger one by one when he consumes them.

Future updates will tell but im all for these best-friends-become-enemies type of stories. Even better if they still continued to be friends but needed to kill each other for what ever the reason might be. But hey, thats just my taste.

This game has very interesting planned tags like Harem, Fantasy beings :devilish:, Cheating(Netori) (OH BOY HELL YEAH, I cant wait to see who MC gets to cuck Probably the king with his wife and daughter :love:)...and then we have this: Hand holding o_O
How this game is still on patreon is beyond me with this tag alone. I hope its censored even in the censored version. :LOL:

One thing I didnt understand is how MC and Markus managed to travel/teleport back to the capital in such a short instance.
Its not explained and the parasite said we "just did". Perhaps it will be revealed later ?
Ah, and the incest patch seems not to work since MC keept calling mom "Regina".
To address some of you statements, in no exact order.
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To address some of you statements, in no exact order, firstly
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A solid analysis, and I think you're probably right on all points.

I would ask, however, that you use spoiler tags around most of your post, given that you give away information that comes at the very end of the Prologue. Yes, it's only the prologue, but you are revealing specific attributes and attitudes that are revealed piecemeal. If someone were playing this for the first time (I'm not; I already know everything that's been released so far) but read here first, they would lose the chance to be surprised by some of the content that gets revealed.
 

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A solid analysis, and I think you're probably right on all points.

I would ask, however, that you use spoiler tags around most of your post, given that you give away information that comes at the very end of the Prologue. Yes, it's only the prologue, but you are revealing specific attributes and attitudes that are revealed piecemeal. If someone were playing this for the first time (I'm not; I already know everything that's been released so far) but read here first, they would lose the chance to be surprised by some of the content that gets revealed.
Eh you're probably right. I've just never really used the spoiler tags so it kind of slipped my mind.
 
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The likely scenario is that the parasites overtook the two, assessed the situation, then responded by transforming the two into more primitive version of their parasite forms and enhancing them for mobility in order to get the fuck out of dodge.
But how likely is that ? The Parasite acted very basic and primitive when the MC started to talk to it for the first time.
I mean even if we put to the fact that the Parasite took the memories of the MC of a safe heaven, which was the capital, then it moved the host itself to the goal without any problems or without gettin lost...is kinda to convenient...even more when both of these parasites which dont share the same hivemind collapsed infront of the gates on each other.
Its sounds for me as a reader the story wanted them to be there but forgot to explain how they made it back.

Your theory about the white and black parasite is very interesting. But if this is true, why is this role given a male but not a female ? From a porngame perspective having another male who is on par with you and in such element is kinda odd, even more when the focus is on sleeping with different chicks.
 

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But how likely is that ? The Parasite acted very basic and primitive when the MC started to talk to it for the first time.
I mean even if we put to the fact that the Parasite took the memories of the MC of a safe heaven, which was the capital, then it moved the host itself to the goal without any problems or without gettin lost...is kinda to convenient...even more when both of these parasites which dont share the same hivemind collapsed infront of the gates on each other.
Its sounds for me as a reader the story wanted them to be there but forgot to explain how they made it back.

Your theory about the white and black parasite is very interesting. But if this is true, why is this role given a male but not a female ? From a porngame perspective having another male who is on par with you and in such element is kinda odd, even more when the focus is on sleeping with different chicks.
I assumed they were sexless. Parasites often can be hermaphroditic or asexual (e.g., certain tapeworms), so there isn't necessarily any type of posturing against each other. If the theory about a hive mind is correct, there would be one creature in charge (because there always is a queen), and the rest (even if just one other) would all be drones, workers, or otherwise subordinate to the head creature. If that's true, there's no fight for dominance among them, because it isn't a pack, it's a hive. Bees don't vie for position; they are assigned and fulfill (even queens are assigned at birth). Wolves and lions operate in a way that's not even remotely similar beyond there being a group.

There is still a ton we do not know about the parasites, so we really have no way of knowing how either Markus or Caspian got back to the city so quickly. Can the parasites change what form they take (e.g., grow wings to fly or mechanisms for vacuum-burrowing like razor clams do)? If so, the form they manifested to Caspian and Markus might be more of a self-identity reflection: how each parasite sees itself. If not, do the parasites possess any type of magic themselves, such as teleportation? There are many possibilities in a fantasy like this. I would guess they can change form at will (though likely at a high energy cost or something), but I'm not a part of the Damned Studios team so obviously don't know.
 

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But how likely is that ? The Parasite acted very basic and primitive when the MC started to talk to it for the first time.
I mean even if we put to the fact that the Parasite took the memories of the MC of a safe heaven, which was the capital, then it moved the host itself to the goal without any problems or without gettin lost...is kinda to convenient...even more when both of these parasites which dont share the same hivemind collapsed infront of the gates on each other.
Its sounds for me as a reader the story wanted them to be there but forgot to explain how they made it back.

Your theory about the white and black parasite is very interesting. But if this is true, why is this role given a male but not a female ? From a porngame perspective having another male who is on par with you and in such element is kinda odd, even more when the focus is on sleeping with different chicks.
First of all, the primitive behavior they were displaying wasn't primitive behavior at all but acclimatization. These parasites had likely never been introduced to human hosts and thus it took time for them to fully learn their hosts' language. There were still learning how to communicate at the time.

Second, all animals, including humans, have a natural compass that allows them to orient themselves in accordance with their destination. The reason it is so weak in us humans, now, is because we've spent so many decades with compasses, maps, and GPS that our need for it has waned and like any muscle, disuse leads to atrophy. The parasites likely tapped into this and augmented it. There is also the fact that the journey from the capital to the cave was in the MCs recent memory, including the path that was taken so it would take little effort to retrace those steps.

Third, the parasites are not of different hiveminds. The main characters simply don't hear when the parasites communicate with one another. If the parasites HAD been of different hiveminds, it is likely they would have percieved each other as a threat and acted accordingly.

And fourth, these are a parasitic species that lives within hosts. It is logical to assume that the traits and aspects that the parasite imparts on a host are affected by the host itself. In addition there wasn't anything in the text that I am aware of that openly identifies the parasites as having genders in the first place. It would make sense that the parasites would utilize hosts for breeding if the parasites themselves had no gender. If Parasite Black had latched itself onto a woman instead of the MC, then she would likely have been given a form more designed for efficient gestation as opposed to optimized impregnation.
 

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I agree
I assumed they were sexless. Parasites often can be hermaphroditic or asexual (e.g., certain tapeworms), so there isn't necessarily any type of posturing against each other. If the theory about a hive mind is correct, there would be one creature in charge (because there always is a queen), and the rest (even if just one other) would all be drones, workers, or otherwise subordinate to the head creature. If that's true, there's no fight for dominance among them, because it isn't a pack, it's a hive. Bees don't vie for position; they are assigned and fulfill (even queens are assigned at birth). Wolves and lions operate in a way that's not even remotely similar beyond there being a group.

There is still a ton we do not know about the parasites, so we really have no way of knowing how either Markus or Caspian got back to the city so quickly. Can the parasites change what form they take (e.g., grow wings to fly or mechanisms for vacuum-burrowing like razor clams do)? If so, the form they manifested to the MC and Markus might be more of a self-identity reflection: how each parasite sees itself. If not, do the parasites possess any type of magic themselves, such as teleportation? There are many possibilities in a fantasy like this. I would guess they can change form at will (though likely at a high energy cost or something), but I'm not a part of the Damned Studios team so obviously don't know.
I think we go now to much in reality then what we have in the game. The Parasites clearly said both of them needs to KILL and to FUCK or they will die because the Parasites turn more feral which will kill/aborb the host in the end.
The Parasite seems to be part of a "being" or I interpetend it wrong when it was talking about dreams of previous hosts and about a special Woman.
If this was only for the MC, I would understand the game mechanic behind it. But since there is a second Male Character with the same ambitions, or lets say same condition and responsibilities, I just dont see THE reason why he is in the game.
Because if its all about MC having sex, then there is no need fore a second male character.
If you somehow still wants scenes like threesome etc, then a "NPC" would suit the role. You dont need necessarily a Good friend for it.

However, I dont see this game having the focus for NTR/sharing/cucking content which brings me to the point that there must be SOMETHING special planned for him. If he was just to follow the MC for the rest of the story, then a female would suit much better this role since she would also offer sex scenes.
About Markus being more attractive then the MC itself is perhaps just a misinterpretation from my site because it was probably just the artist way of crafting these two male characters.
But I also saw/read many porn related stuff where this will come back swinging with contend I dont like...and the fact that both have the same build, the same D size, the same abilities etc. kinda shifts me to the "a little worried" site. :whistle:
 

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First of all, the primitive behavior they were displaying wasn't primitive behavior at all but acclimatization. These parasites had likely never been introduced to human hosts and thus it took time for them to fully learn their hosts' language. There were still learning how to communicate at the time.

Second, all animals, including humans, have a natural compass that allows them to orient themselves in accordance with their destination. The reason it is so weak in us humans, now, is because we've spent so many decades with compasses, maps, and GPS that our need for it has waned and like any muscle, disuse leads to atrophy. The parasites likely tapped into this and augmented it. There is also the fact that the journey from the capital to the cave was in the MCs recent memory, including the path that was taken so it would take little effort to retrace those steps.

Third, the parasites are not of different hiveminds. The main characters simply don't hear when the parasites communicate with one another. If the parasites HAD been of different hiveminds, it is likely they would have percieved each other as a threat and acted accordingly.

And fourth, these are a parasitic species that lives within hosts. It is logical to assume that the traits and aspects that the parasite imparts on a host are affected by the host itself. In addition there wasn't anything in the text that I am aware of that openly identifies the parasites as having genders in the first place. It would make sense that the parasites would utilize hosts for breeding if the parasites themselves had no gender. If Parasite Black had latched itself onto a woman instead of the MC, then she would likely have been given a form more designed for efficient gestation as opposed to optimized impregnation.
Acclimatization seems the be the right word here but what I meant with "primitive behavior" is that they couldnt act that fast without a proper timeframe. Sure its fantasy and if the lore will say they dont need a "proper time" then thats how it is, thats why I said that perhaps int he future update it will be explained how this parasite who was still trying to acclimatized (since when he first talked to MC he sounded like this progress was still in development) to move the unconscious host to the capital.
Your theories make sense, but I didnt read or saw them in the game and I coudlnt came up with it on myself.
It was like they are here and the story continues from here on.

So you think both share the same Hivemind and are more like ants/termites ?
I agree that if they wouldnt, they would attacked each other in the first place. Thats what I thought when the first scene happen with them. But I have this gut feeling that both of them, Black and White have their own hivemind and they just dont see each other as a thread, at least for now.
The black parasites said he had memories of the past and that they were fleeing from something. And that a woman is involved.
When I heard that I thought these Parasites are a). From outer space or B) Creater in a lab by a civilization long gone.
Like -CookieMonster666- said there is much more we dont know then we know, which is fun since we can speculate about much. I just hope I dont get disapointed in the end.
 

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Acclimatization seems the be the right word here but what I meant with "primitive behavior" is that they couldnt act that fast without a proper timeframe. Sure its fantasy and if the lore will say they dont need a "proper time" then thats how it is, thats why I said that perhaps int he future update it will be explained how this parasite who was still trying to acclimatized (since when he first talked to MC he sounded like this progress was still in development) to move the unconscious host to the capital.
Your theories make sense, but I didnt read or saw them in the game and I coudlnt came up with it on myself.
It was like they are here and the story continues from here on.

So you think both share the same Hivemind and are more like ants/termites ?
I agree that if they wouldnt, they would attacked each other in the first place. Thats what I thought when the first scene happen with them. But I have this gut feeling that both of them, Black and White have their own hivemind and they just dont see each other as a thread, at least for now.
The black parasites said he had memories of the past and that they were fleeing from something. And that a woman is involved.
When I heard that I thought these Parasites are a). From outer space or B) Creater in a lab by a civilization long gone.
Like -CookieMonster666- said there is much more we dont know then we know, which is fun since we can speculate about much. I just hope I dont get disapointed in the end.
Okay. I see what's going on here.
 
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