Ren'Py Parasite Black [v0.170] [Damned Studios]

[Saiyajin2205]

So if we don't interact with the traps and futa we will be under leveled? I wish you could level up via fighting, we have to fight so much whenever we travel somewhere.Also being forced to do side quests basically for xp it takes away the choice and freedom if you are forced to do them for XP anywas.Imo you should be able to farm xp this way you aren't forced to play optional content which you have no interest in doesn't have to be sexual either you simply might nobe interested in some other character who you find annoying and don't want to interact with them but you will be forced to because of needing xp .Also if the dev says you only need main quests to be strong enough for fights then what's the point of this combat system at all if you are going to be strong enough just doing the main quest just remove the combat at that point as it has no real point and also makes no sense for quests like those(most of side quest) making mc powerful instead of actually fighting.That is why imo leveling up via grinding should be possible. it is part of the rpg aspect ,the player chooses to get stronger and be ready to fight and win in main quests and also win fights or do better where he would lose that should also have some flavour texts and rewards.

 

[Szpigel]

How tf did I miss that

I think he might only appear in the brothel on specific days of the week, so he's pretty easy to miss unless you're going to the brothel every in-game day.

This game really feels like a bait, and switch.

When we get back to town, no matter where we go, it's not the same. Pick up one of the first available quests at the adventurer's guild, rescue the merchants son-he's a trap.

It's getting to the point that if I see a character getting some spotlight, especially if they are strong and feminine, I'm guessing it's a futa.

All of this would be fine if, 1: it weren't so contradictory to the theme we had going, and 2: we weren't forced into the content because, as the game tells you, your primary source of exp is unlocking sex scenes, and quests.

I'm not going to get into the balance of combat, which has gotten what the fuck levels of bad since last time I played, because that can easily be fixed. The direction the content has been taken though...I think if the audience is everyone, the audience is no one. A good compromise would be not forcing players to unlock scenes they're not interested in, just in order to get enough exp.

I can understand some of the frustrations with the game (exp system creating a conflict between 'optimal' play vs only pursuing characters/kinks you are into, futa characters not being advertised as a somewhat significant faction), but I really disagree with a lot of your framing and some of your points.

- How is the merchant's son at all a trap? He's literally just a guy (even if a femme-ish one), there's no ambiguity or tricking the player or whatever here.

Spoiler: trap????

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There's also a version of this quest with the merchant's daughter instead, so you don't have to complete the Trayan version to advance in the guild or get the exp/rewards from it and can just ignore it. Though I will say that the way it was implemented, with the weekly rotation, was not ideal and there could be a way for the players to choose which versions of the quest they want to play (the daughter, the son or both).

- You are really exaggerating the number of futa/trans/femboy characters in the game. I used the in-game gallery for reference, and there's like 4 of them (or 5, I guess, if Markus completely transformed into a woman, without a penis, still counts) vs 18 or so (a couple of them I haven't encountered yet) that are not. I guess Divine/Dros/Mika/Trayan can all be encountered early compared to some other love interests that are unlocked later/have to be worked for, but these are also the only characters of the types that you are complaining about (+two other Polom mages that will be implemented at some point in the future, but so will many other characters, too). I have no idea where you are coming from here or which characters you are referencing:

It's getting to the point that if I see a character getting some spotlight, especially if they are strong and feminine, I'm guessing it's a futa.

- Technically, the breeding theme is still there; the mages can be impregnated, they have functional female parts in addition to the male ones (you know, futa) and Mika, one of the mages, has already had pregnancy implemented in the game. But I get it, it's not the usual arrangement.

- I also really disagree with this:

I think if the audience is everyone, the audience is no one

There's nothing wrong with the dev(s) making the game that they want to make and including whatever kink/fetish/character that they are into; the four futa/trans/femboy characters in the game right now are completely optional and the influence they have on the overall game experience is so marginal (except for the EXP opportunity cost grievances, which I can understand) that I don't really see the point in removing them or how that will streamline the experience.

Also, I can understand not wanting to interact with characters with penises, that's completely valid, but I don't understand why they are getting singled out out in particular when there are other characters with very specific kinks associated with them (furries like Elena+the random encounter lizards/jackal or Myu the slime girl; these two are also major characters and party members, so surely that's more of an issue when it comes to alienating players) that not every player is going to appreciate, either.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

This game really feels like a bait, and switch.

The intro is great, the characters are well-written, and it makes you feel things (no spoilers). It also sets some expectations. Being a renpy game, even if an ambitious renpy game, it sets expectations about the story, and the lewds.

We start off with MC, his bro, and his childhood friend who's clearly into MC. Life is going to be good, they're going to get into the upper class, and rack up their body count, surrounded by the most beautiful women the nobility have to offer.
Then we're off to war, get ourselves a QT3.14 scout wife, and whether it's her or Adara, still we remain the only dick in town.
We pick up our invasive pals, and wouldn't you know it, we've got to breed! Tough situation, but I'm here for it. Pretty coherent theme, with a pretty clear target audience, so far so straight.

When we get back to town, no matter where we go, it's not the same. Pick up one of the first available quests at the adventurer's guild, rescue the merchants son-he's a trap. All of the mages are futa. The mages were barely implemented last time I played some years back, and the single futa that was there was forgivable because they were written into the world fairly well, I thought. The elf that runs the clothes shop is a tranny, and to keep it that way, even if you do his quest to make him feminine, he retains the dick. It's getting to the point that if I see a character getting some spotlight, especially if they are strong and feminine, I'm guessing it's a futa.

All of this would be fine if, 1: it weren't so contradictory to the theme we had going, and 2: we weren't forced into the content because, as the game tells you, your primary source of exp is unlocking sex scenes, and quests. Grinding exp through combat is not an option, go fuck the tranny elf in the ass if you want to see level 7.

I'm not going to get into the balance of combat, which has gotten what the fuck levels of bad since last time I played, because that can easily be fixed. The direction the content has been taken though...I think if the audience is everyone, the audience is no one. A good compromise would be not forcing players to unlock scenes they're not interested in, just in order to get enough exp.

I took the time to write this because initially this game was set up to be one of the big titles, one of the memorable ones that hang around in places like this. It stood out through its quality, and storytelling among a pile of far inferior renpy titles. It's unfortunate that after slogging through another playthrough, not even as far as I got last time, it clearly became unworth the time.

Nothing you described is a bait and switch. The quest with the merchant has a female counterpart and changes between the two. All the mages are indeed futa and there are a grand total of two you can fully interact with. The elf shopkeeper is not trans. He is a dude who you can later decide to make more feminine or not.... which I guess people would call trans. But it's still an option. In grand total, that's all of three characters. And that somehow led you to the idea. That if a character gets some spotlight, and they are strong and feminine. They're futa..... really?

That's not contradictory to any theme. And you're not forced to into that content. Unless you want to max exp gain. Though depending on some choices. You can actually still miss out on exp anyway. But you can very much make it to the end of content. Without interacting with those characters. I made it to the end despite missing hella scenes. Granted, I did do everything else I could find.

Like I get some folks would rather grind. And the exp tied to scenes can give that feeling of need to do it. But come on now.

 

[gaikotsu3]

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- How is the merchant's son at all a trap? He's literally just a guy (even if a femme-ish one), there's no ambiguity or tricking the player or whatever here.

There's also a version of this quest with the merchant's daughter instead, so you don't have to complete the Trayan version to advance in the guild or get the exp/rewards from it and can just ignore it. Though I will say that the way it was implemented, with the weekly rotation, was not ideal and there could be a way for the players to choose which versions of the quest they want to play (the daughter, the son or both).
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He's a trap, and he gives you all of the submissive and breedable uwu vibes that he can muster. It's also not optional, that's a sex scene you need to unlock for exp, which is separate from completion of the guild quest.

Spoiler: uwu

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There's nothing wrong with the dev(s) making the game that they want to make and including whatever kink/fetish/character that they are into...

Correct, there isn't, and I would never claim that there is, nor shame the dev for doing so. I actually thought I was pretty clear about this being relative to a target audience. The dev is making a game to bring to market, presumably to fund his company and make more games. I don't think his tastes are relevant to my criticism.

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Also, I can understand not wanting to interact with characters with penises, that's completely valid, but I don't understand why they are getting singled out out in particular when there are other characters with very specific kinks associated with them (furries like Elena+the random encounter lizards/jackal or Myu the slime girl; these two are also major characters and party members, so surely that's more of an issue when it comes to alienating players) that not every player is going to appreciate, either.

They're not totally dissimilar, but as you pointed out, the furry ones don't have penises. Much like the orc, our passenger hardly cares what species he's breeding, and whether or not a character is attractive to you is a separate issue from appealing to an entirely different sexuality.

 

[gaikotsu3]

Nothing you described is a bait and switch. The quest with the merchant has a female counterpart and changes between the two. All the mages are indeed futa and there are a grand total of two you can fully interact with. The elf shopkeeper is not trans. He is a dude who you can later decide to make more feminine or not.... which I guess people would call trans. But it's still an option. In grand total, that's all of three characters. And that somehow led you to the idea. That if a character gets some spotlight, and they are strong and feminine. They're futa..... really?

That's not contradictory to any theme. And you're not forced to into that content. Unless you want to max exp gain...

This comes across as dishonest. I know that you know that the few mages we can interact with now, are not the end, and there are already placeholders for the other mages and quests to go along with it. Even character names, artwork, and portraits.
There is a female counterpart to that guild quest, yes. You do not get a say in which quest appears, and you need both scenes for exp.

The elf shopkeeper is very literally trans. If you speak to him he will tell you how he opened a clothing store because he wants to be the women that wear his clothes, and that he couldn't maintain a relationship with women and isn't particularly attracted to them. He literally tells you how he wants to be a woman. As I mentioned in my original post, yes you can do a quest to make him more feminine, and all he gets are some tits. He doesn't gain female genitalia nor lose his male genitalia. He's trans.

I feel like the only accurate things you said were misleading.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

This comes across as dishonest. I know that you know that the few mages we can interact with now, are not the end, and there are already placeholders for the other mages and quests to go along with it. Even character names, artwork, and portraits.
There is a female counterpart to that guild quest, yes. You do not get a say in which quest appears, and you need both scenes for exp.

The elf shopkeeper is very literally trans. If you speak to him he will tell you how he opened a clothing store because he wants to be the women that wear his clothes, and that he couldn't maintain a relationship with women and isn't particularly attracted to them. He literally tells you how he wants to be a woman. As I mentioned in my original post, yes you can do a quest to make him more feminine, and all he gets are some tits. He doesn't gain female genitalia nor lose his male genitalia. He's trans.

I feel like the only accurate things you said were misleading.

I know there are other mages. Which is why I specifically used the words fully interact with. I never said it was the end. You can view it as "dishonest." Or view it as I literally said it. All of them are this and there are a grand total of two you can fully interact with. I didn't say there were only two. Especially considering we're speaking on current complaints about that particular content. Not the future that you haven't dealt with. Also doesn't change it's still a grand total of three people. Like I originally said. Also, not getting a choice in which version of the kid you get. Is a moot point because both versions still exist. You only brought up one, so I brought up the other. Yes you need to fuck both if you want all the exp.... still optional. And does not change the reason I brought it up.

As for the shop keep. Yea..... no. I don't play that whole I feel on the inside therefore I am bullshit. So I called him a man because he is one. Becomes even more silly when you have people literally combining genders in this world. While also having a choice on whether you want to feminize him or not. Where he takes on a new name and identity. Or you leave him as is. To continue on as a gay man.

As for how you feel.... eh. I wasn't trying to mislead.

 

[Lorde Cyber Saurus]

Am I the only one who finds it really annoying that the MC has to spend attribute points into charisma/barter to raise strength? He should get 3 points per level just because of those extra attributes.

Yeah, since barter and charisma are tied to some choices you can make into the game would be really good if we receive 3 points.

 

[Lorde Cyber Saurus]

how do you start that quest where you preform in the red room with your landlady/mom? had to start all over again and completely forgot how to start it

Act 1 final quest, instead of going to the inquisitor go to the head of the underworld and ask her for information.

 

[lostraven]

For the record, there are 4 official schools of magecraft in the world of Mirnos. Only one has futas.

-Mages of Palam - Healers primarily, but they have some defensive magecraft around water and energy. Due to their goddess, they are afflicted with the whole being futa thing and are often seen as saint like figures.

-Elemental mages - mages who spend their lifetimes devoted to mastering the elements. Fire/water/earth/wind

-Inquisitors - More of a subset of elemental mages, not strong enough magecraft to be full elemental mages, but they have enough magecraft combined with weapons training to make effective warriors.

-'Variants' - Those born with unique gifts, anything from foresight to extremely dangerous or unique abilities. One variant is wildly different from another.

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Finally, there is 'unofficially' a fifth school, with Dark magecraft. Everything from necromancy to blood rituals to demons etc.

The other schools of magecraft will be visitable and play a more prominent role in the story as time goes on.

 

[TremerePupil]

-Mages of Palam - Healers primarily, but they have some defensive magecraft around water and energy. Due to their goddess, they are afflicted with the whole being futa thing and are often seen as saint like figures.

Are all mages of Palam born as males, or can they be born as females too?
And thank you for explaining what the Dark magecraft is, I was wondering about it and couldn't find anything.

 

[lostraven]

Are all mages of Palam born as males, or can they be born as females too?

Can't remember the exact wording of the lore, but it's irrelevant. Once you're chosen by the goddess, your body will change.

People harp on the Mages of Palam for the futa aspect, but they're incredibly sad the more you look at it.

You have a group of people incredibly isolated by the surrounding society, who, solely for reasons beyond their control, are now expected to behave as saints as a form of social control.

Said society is also uncomfortable with their gender/sexuality, but with the holy literal holy goddess angle blessing them, they punish the mages *indirectly* instead of attacking them directly, by ostracizing anyone who might try to get close to them.

Worse still.... Their goddess is literally dead, but even a dead god has power. Had their goddess still been alive, Palam would pretty much be one of the few who could have reversed the whole futa thing if someone didn't want it... But the magecraft is basically running on autopilot at this point.

 

[Szpigel]

He's a trap, and he gives you all of the submissive and breedable uwu vibes that he can muster. It's also not optional, that's a sex scene you need to unlock for exp, which is separate from completion of the guild quest.

I was under the impression that traps were essentially the same as femboys, characters that identify as male/biologically male, but present feminine, hence trap? As in, they are, intentionally or not, leading someone on to believe they're a woman when they are actually a guy? It's just not how I would describe Trayan at least.

Anyway, if your main point is that the player is forced to have sex with a man to earn extra EXP, sure, that's technically true. But that's also really overemphasising the amount of EXP that sex scenes yield vs completing quests, just finishing all of the quests should be enough to get through the whole game, there's no need to hunt for every single crumb. I think it's completely fair to call it optional, even if this decision is annoying if you're trying to play optimally.

Correct, there isn't, and I would never claim that there is, nor shame the dev for doing so. I actually thought I was pretty clear about this being relative to a target audience. The dev is making a game to bring to market, presumably to fund his company and make more games. I don't think his tastes are relevant to my criticism.

They're not totally dissimilar, but as you pointed out, the furry ones don't have penises. Much like the orc, our passenger hardly cares what species he's breeding, and whether or not a character is attractive to you is a separate issue from appealing to an entirely different sexuality.

I mean, does the game outright state that it's made for harem/breeder-kink players only? Or does it just vaguely describe itself as a dark fantasy adult RPG? Because clearly this game explores a lot more fetishes/kinks than just breeding (furries/scalies/slimegirls have already been mentioned, but there's also fantasy races like elves/orcs/goblins, monster/alien sex with the Caspian/Markus's transformed forms, sharing, cuckoldry, prostitution/sex work/pimping, heavy domination, etc.), I just don't believe that including a handful of futa characters (that all can be bred anyway) or one or two femme guy characters is somehow significantly steering away from the 'vision'/the 'target' audience in a way that the other fetishes don't and that it warrants some kind of course correction.

And, spicy hot take here, but from what I've seen trans women/futas/feminisation (and even femboys tbh) are all basically straight* fetishes, so I don't think the game is somehow drastically shifting demographics by including these either.
* (Obviously it's a lot more complicated than that, but if just to put a label on it or fit it into a category, anecdotally, the audience for these kinks, especially trans/futas, is overwhelmingly straight and they have next to no presence in gay erotica)

Now if the next update comes out with Drax or Mr Winward sex scenes, then it would actually start becoming a game made "for everyone".

 

[EnigmaticChap]

How to get the library girl scene?

 

[08/15Wixxer]

Rollback won't work on android.

Is it only limited to PC?

It is outdated and needs an update to work again.

I think he might only appear in the brothel on specific days of the week, so he's pretty easy to miss unless you're going to the brothel every in-game day.

This, coupled with the fact that the mechanism designed to make players aware is not working well, is the problem.

The brothel is supposed to have advertisers running around town as soon as he starts showing up there. They hand out flyers hinting that elves work there. Once you have read the flyer, you can also talk to Helena about the supposed elf working there.

How to get the library girl scene?

Do the opposite of this:

Don't talk to Regina, when the Demorai Siege counter starts and your quest objective says: "Keep looking for Poltrik".
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Go to the Pleasure District instead and talk to Carina.

 

[Luka__mindo]

For the record, there are 4 official schools of magecraft in the world of Mirnos. Only one has futas.

-Mages of Palam - Healers primarily, but they have some defensive magecraft around water and energy. Due to their goddess, they are afflicted with the whole being futa thing and are often seen as saint like figures.

-Elemental mages - mages who spend their lifetimes devoted to mastering the elements. Fire/water/earth/wind

-Inquisitors - More of a subset of elemental mages, not strong enough magecraft to be full elemental mages, but they have enough magecraft combined with weapons training to make effective warriors.

-'Variants' - Those born with unique gifts, anything from foresight to extremely dangerous or unique abilities. One variant is wildly different from another.

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Finally, there is 'unofficially' a fifth school, with Dark magecraft. Everything from necromancy to blood rituals to demons etc.

The other schools of magecraft will be visitable and play a more prominent role in the story as time goes on.

So basically

Mages of Palam--- Futas
Elemental mages--- Gilfs
Inquisitors--- Tomboys
Variants--- Furry
unofficially' a fifth school--- Necrophile Vampires

 

[Nadekai]

 

[Melody Is Dead]

Yeah, since barter and charisma are tied to some choices you can make into the game would be really good if we receive 3 points.

If you ask me, they should just remove barter/charisma completely and make those choices part of the perks system to reduce the number of different systems or else the game will end up with many useless abilities that affect only one choice.

 

[Luka__mindo]

how should I open these 2 scenes and where I can find Jackal-girl ?

 

[Szpigel]

how should I open these 2 scenes and where I can find Jackal-girl ?

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The two missing scenes are from the sharing route with Markus.

The jackal girl can be encountered while travelling to the Valley of Death as a random event when stopping on the question mark spots. You need to have 10 agility, I think, and the beast perk to catch up to her and get the scene.

 

[Luka__mindo]

The two missing scenes are from the sharing route with Markus.

The jackal girl can be encountered while travelling to the Valley of Death as a random event when stopping on the question mark spots. You need to have 10 agility, I think, and the beast perk to catch up to her and get the scene.

thanks